EPTOn January 25 2013 03:27 KwarK wrote:
I've got several hundred votes in the bag. How many do I need?
I've got several hundred votes in the bag. How many do I need?
About a thousand for one of the lower seats, I think.
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tofucake
Hyrule19265 Posts
About a thousand for one of the lower seats, I think. | ||
KwarK
United States44402 Posts
On January 25 2013 03:30 Shootemup. wrote: Why would everyone want one? The military POS is really only useful as a staging POS for nullsec fleets or for people living in WHs. The mining POS is for people who moon mine, and the Industry and Research POSes are for manufacturing and research respectively. There is really no reason for most people to want any of those POSes, since they are so specific. If you make them more flexible, but still easy to use and configure, then they will be more popular as there will be more uses for them. The Hatchery would have covered the space around Saranen/Oddel with mining POS for the goodfights and the free passive income. Small mining POS would be cheap as fuck because unless you need huge EHP and long reinforce timers for sov tech grinding shit you don't need anything but small. If you think you can hold the space, spam the fuckers. | ||
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KwarK
United States44402 Posts
Endorse motherfuckers. | ||
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Omigawa
United States1556 Posts
On January 25 2013 03:27 KwarK wrote: I've got several hundred votes in the bag. How many do I need? Get back into one of those mining corps and run as a pro-miner pro-hisec csm candidate, then pull a US politician and completely go back on all the promises you made. Rinse and repeat next year with one of your other 100 accounts | ||
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Nyvis
France284 Posts
It would make pos a lot more interesting and flexible, without adding too much complexity because it's still only 4 different mods, and you can easily count them to know what a pos do. EDIT : you can pull the politician one (it's not US specific, I can assure you, French ones are the same :D) only once because your real life name is displayed. But by pulling this one out, you would have the griefers vote for the next CSM ! Sounds like a wonderful plan. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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Galdo
United States338 Posts
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KwarK
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On January 25 2013 03:54 Omigawa wrote: Get back into one of those mining corps and run as a pro-miner pro-hisec csm candidate, then pull a US politician and completely go back on all the promises you made. Rinse and repeat next year with one of your other 100 accounts You apply to CSM as your real life identity rather than behind your EVE character. | ||
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Shootemup.
United States1044 Posts
On January 25 2013 04:07 ghost_403 wrote: The entire point in this system is that people don't really need the flexibility given to them. Yes, you certainly could have a POS that does everything, but most POS' are cookie cutter setups that are nightmares to set up. Dumb them down, force people who need that flexibility to own an extra one or two, and get moar gud fights. There is no need to dumb them down though, they can make POSes easier to use and still retain the flexibility. | ||
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Nyvis
France284 Posts
On January 25 2013 04:41 KwarK wrote: The biggest block to having "your pos" is that no fucker wants to deal with owning a pos. You have to make it worth having before you get into making it look cool. Unless you deal with the fundamental issues of shitty interface and no real advantage to owning one then pretty jewellery for it will be like swallowing glitter to make your shit sparkle. I agree totally to that. But it doesn't mean you have to do only half the feature, making them be of decent use, but not your own. Could be done in two times, though. Something else I have on my mind : EVE lacks a micro pos for small individual purposes, and especially for "trying it out" and pull people into using the feature. If it's also simplified, it would be great (with my suggestion, it could be a one-module pos, with what you suggested, just a very small specialized one). I'd love to put a micro staging pos when sitting in a wormhole to try it out (maybe with just the space for a pve ship, a scan ship, salvager ship and a mining/gas harvester one). Small poses seem completely overkill for this. Just some ideas on my mind ! | ||
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s0Li
United States406 Posts
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Mandini
United States1717 Posts
On January 25 2013 05:25 s0Li wrote: Could you imagine someone staging a Titan out of a micro pos.... Surely no one would ever think of doing that. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
Right? | ||
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Mandini
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KwarK
United States44402 Posts
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Shootemup.
United States1044 Posts
On January 25 2013 06:09 KwarK wrote: Industry pos can have it. They are overcomplicated at the moment, simplifying them is definitely the first step in increasing the usage of them. They need a role, or ideally multiple roles, and they need to be broken from corp based to individual based. POSes aren't complicated. The reason they suck is because they suffer from a broken corp roles system, a horrible UI, and the lack of a personal POS system. | ||
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Nyvis
France284 Posts
On January 25 2013 05:25 s0Li wrote: Could you imagine someone staging a Titan out of a micro pos.... Could be funny, with both ends of the titan outside the forcefield :D | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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KwarK
United States44402 Posts
On January 25 2013 06:18 Shootemup. wrote: POSes aren't complicated. The reason they suck is because they suffer from a broken corp roles system, a horrible UI, and the lack of a personal POS system. My fix consists of removing the UI entirely, making them personal and unlinking them from the corp roles system. | ||
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