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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
January 22 2013 13:29 GMT
#28421
On January 22 2013 22:23 Impervious wrote:
How the fuck do you think I could pve in machariels and lose 3b isk machs every week?

By being bad.

^_^
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19151 Posts
January 22 2013 14:49 GMT
#28422
On January 22 2013 19:08 Mandini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 12:18 Impervious wrote:
Ok.....

How much isk did you invest into this? Not just the isk for the freightor and implants, but also the plex costs of the character you're using to freight stuff?

What if you put that isk onto a shitty trade alt, and simply updated buy/sell orders in a trading hub (not jita) instead? I can guarantee that you can get more isk/click with that much isk invested if you know what you are doing.....

Seriously, hauling is absolute shit. You're losing isk by doing it, not making it, because you could have been getting a better return by doing other things with the isk you invested.....

There is an insane amount of clicking with market. Sure you make more but you cant really do it afk if you want to make good money, orders need to be updated at the very least once every half hour and even then you are losing money not doing it every 5 minutes or less with multiple orders.

And my god whatever happened to you can do whatever you want in eve. If he wants to be a space trucker ffs let him do it. Its a game and you shouldn't be personally offended that someone chooses to play sub optimally. I like doing exploration, I make like 500m-1b per hour with it, but I could make way more just going through chat channels advertising edlp. One of those things is extremely boring, one of them I enjoy. Do you want to flame me for that?

All you need in this game is enough money to buy the ships you want to fly, and if you dont want to spend RL money then you need money to plex. That's it. If whatever you do playing eve makes you that much, so be it.

No they don't. Two or three times per day.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
January 22 2013 14:54 GMT
#28423
It's up to one's level of minmaxing. Technically everyone is leaving money on the table by not running bots to the capacity of the machines/connection available, so why bother with how anyone does.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43212 Posts
January 22 2013 14:55 GMT
#28424
Bots don't even begin to compare with fw income. Also Hatchery honour the CCP ToS.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
January 22 2013 15:00 GMT
#28425
I didn't mean mining bots. And that's why I said everyone.
unsniped
Profile Joined November 2009
United States241 Posts
January 22 2013 15:20 GMT
#28426
For the sb eve-gate, you have to go to forums after signing in
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
January 22 2013 18:08 GMT
#28427
On January 22 2013 16:22 abominare wrote:
So I've been out of the game for nearly 2 months due to medical problems, and got curious to see what was happening at least in this thread while I was awol.

Quite the experience reading the last several pages. How active is shield battery? Haven't had the heart to log in knowing that in my absence my current corp should have deservedly looted my pos for bitching about fuel.

Also whats with the grumblings of Test trying to pick a fight with FA, the reddit post was so damn painful to try to read, even in comparison of my last few months.

Well as far as TL/Hatchery is concerned, after the NEO Nydus. kind of imploded because there wasn't much happening. A lot of people went to Aquila, and some went off and formed Shield Battery. Shield Battery seems to be pretty active, but as someone on the outside looking in I can't say for sure.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 22 2013 18:13 GMT
#28428
Yeah it's definitely active and I'd recommend you join us actually.
Lascero
Profile Joined July 2010
United States59 Posts
January 22 2013 19:19 GMT
#28429
http://shieldbattery.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16006805

Teeheehee, I am awful
unsniped
Profile Joined November 2009
United States241 Posts
January 22 2013 19:24 GMT
#28430
And abom join us in out quest for a universe ruled by gallente! (Shield bat)
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19151 Posts
January 22 2013 19:49 GMT
#28431
surprise surprise eve-kill is broken again
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
January 22 2013 19:53 GMT
#28432
On January 22 2013 20:12 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 19:43 hagon wrote:
On January 22 2013 19:22 KwarK wrote:
On January 22 2013 19:07 hagon wrote:
On January 22 2013 13:07 Impervious wrote:
No, there is not just one correct way to play. But there are so many terrible ways to play, and we're trying to stop him from playing in such a terrible way.


If someone is enjoying playing a game they are playing it right. Maybe someone enjoys watching their pixel space behemoth cruise between gates, maybe someone else finds chewing through rocks with their mining barge relaxing. The is no absolute of good or bad play style in Eve.

Although it is a sandbox the game does give positive feedback and quantifiable measures for success. Saying that it's all subjective is pretty silly given that.


Measurable quantities of ISK? Kills? Whoop Dee Doo. Unless you get enjoyment from having the IOSK or looking at the killmail of an awesome kill you made. By the criteria "measurable success" you must suck as the game has a mechanic where players can own sovereignty over parts of the map but you're so bad you don't have any.

Given that this started when the guy said he was freighting for isk then yes, I think isk in wallet is a quantifiable measure of success.

I'm not sure how this is disputable. He outright said that was why he was doing it.

Imagine the following conversation
"I'm digging for oil and I'm doing pretty well.
"But you're just digging a hole in your garden and it's 3ft deep and it's filling with water in the rain"
"Yes"
"So in what sense are you doing pretty well?"
"I don't understand"
"Well, have you found any oil?"
"I don't think that's relevant"

That's you. Unfortunately whether or not you find oil is pretty relevant to the success of the exercise.


There are a lot of potential goals in eve, from sov to isk to killboard efficiency to gudfites to tears and countless more. In each case however the question "are you achieving that goal" will always be the measure of success.



Epic kwark analogy, but let's not forget the mist important goal, having fun.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Tilorn91
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia218 Posts
January 22 2013 20:30 GMT
#28433
Anyone here mind sharing a guide to FWing? I have no idea how or what to do...
Galdo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States338 Posts
January 22 2013 20:36 GMT
#28434
join shield battery and look at bulletins
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
January 23 2013 05:26 GMT
#28435
let there be blink!
I got honor. - Johnny Business
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
January 23 2013 20:46 GMT
#28436
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2503173#post2503173
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
January 23 2013 21:07 GMT
#28437
On January 24 2013 05:46 Body_Shield wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2503173#post2503173

That's yesterday's news Body, get with the times!
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
January 23 2013 21:13 GMT
#28438
On January 24 2013 06:07 Shootemup. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 05:46 Body_Shield wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2503173#post2503173

That's yesterday's news Body, get with the times!

Oh snap
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
January 23 2013 21:16 GMT
#28439
lol nanite repair paste as charges? So you can carry 123412323 charges? I hope they dont make them bigger in exchange.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
January 23 2013 21:59 GMT
#28440
On January 24 2013 06:16 Warri wrote:
lol nanite repair paste as charges? So you can carry 123412323 charges? I hope they dont make them bigger in exchange.


wouldn't help change anything. that just means that you can go out and get more fights before returning home, as opposed to being able to be in a fight for longer. i doubt they would change the size.
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