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hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
January 22 2013 03:42 GMT
#28401
god, I loved this last page. the amount of rage over some innocent silly pleasure in Eve, a sandbox game where there is apparently only one correct way to play.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
January 22 2013 04:07 GMT
#28402
No, there is not just one correct way to play. But there are so many terrible ways to play, and we're trying to stop him from playing in such a terrible way.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
January 22 2013 04:33 GMT
#28403
If anyone is interested in a well trained Amarr pilot I am looking to shed a couple accounts in the coming weeks.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Adedaughtus

He is currently for sale. If it is going to a corpmate I can do a solid discount.
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
January 22 2013 05:30 GMT
#28404
i think that freighter post is probably the most interesting read i've had for a while even though it might not be anything space breaking. +1 for making a long ass story out of that :D.
I got honor. - Johnny Business
unsniped
Profile Joined November 2009
United States241 Posts
January 22 2013 05:34 GMT
#28405
Can we stop making personal attacks on our wonderful public thread which is a newbies first look into tl eve? These past couple of days man...
unsniped
Profile Joined November 2009
United States241 Posts
January 22 2013 06:15 GMT
#28406
for you shield battery guiz, log into eve gate and go here!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=forum&c=1336
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 06:23:21
January 22 2013 06:23 GMT
#28407
shots fired

oh my fucking god

shots fired
?
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
January 22 2013 06:25 GMT
#28408
On January 22 2013 15:23 419 wrote:
shots fired

oh my fucking god

shots fired

Real fucking talk with Chessur
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
January 22 2013 06:31 GMT
#28409
On January 22 2013 15:15 unsniped wrote:
for you shield battery guiz, log into eve gate and go here!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=forum&c=1336


redirects me to the eve-o forum homepage
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
January 22 2013 06:32 GMT
#28410
you have to be logged in on the eve-gate forums with a character who is in shield battery for the link to work+
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
January 22 2013 06:51 GMT
#28411
On January 22 2013 15:32 Ramiel wrote:
you have to be logged in on the eve-gate forums with a character who is in shield battery for the link to work+


I logged into eve gate and this is all i see: http://imgur.com/BMGturG

abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
January 22 2013 07:22 GMT
#28412
So I've been out of the game for nearly 2 months due to medical problems, and got curious to see what was happening at least in this thread while I was awol.

Quite the experience reading the last several pages. How active is shield battery? Haven't had the heart to log in knowing that in my absence my current corp should have deservedly looted my pos for bitching about fuel.

Also whats with the grumblings of Test trying to pick a fight with FA, the reddit post was so damn painful to try to read, even in comparison of my last few months.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 22 2013 07:34 GMT
#28413
On January 22 2013 08:56 Firebolt145 wrote:
That reminds me, Kollin any idea when you can repay for that plex?

Tonight if I log on (which I intend to)
hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 10:34:14
January 22 2013 10:07 GMT
#28414
On January 22 2013 13:07 Impervious wrote:
No, there is not just one correct way to play. But there are so many terrible ways to play, and we're trying to stop him from playing in such a terrible way.


If someone is enjoying playing a game they are playing it right. Maybe someone enjoys watching their pixel space behemoth cruise between gates, maybe someone else finds chewing through rocks with their mining barge relaxing. The is no absolute of good or bad play style in Eve.

On January 22 2013 16:22 abominare wrote:
Also whats with the grumblings of Test trying to pick a fight with FA, the reddit post was so damn painful to try to read, even in comparison of my last few months.


TEST tried to maneuver some content for themselves with an entity they could smash in almost any fight (Fatal Ascension). Apparently Bring Stabity was TEST's diplomat to the CFC. Which is pretty much like saying TEST wanted war with the CFC. Alot depends on Pandemic Legion (TEST cannot launch an attack on Goons without them, if they don't want to play ball, its no go). Either way I wouldn't expect any serious movement on the issue before summer.
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
January 22 2013 10:08 GMT
#28415
On January 22 2013 12:18 Impervious wrote:
Ok.....

How much isk did you invest into this? Not just the isk for the freightor and implants, but also the plex costs of the character you're using to freight stuff?

What if you put that isk onto a shitty trade alt, and simply updated buy/sell orders in a trading hub (not jita) instead? I can guarantee that you can get more isk/click with that much isk invested if you know what you are doing.....

Seriously, hauling is absolute shit. You're losing isk by doing it, not making it, because you could have been getting a better return by doing other things with the isk you invested.....

There is an insane amount of clicking with market. Sure you make more but you cant really do it afk if you want to make good money, orders need to be updated at the very least once every half hour and even then you are losing money not doing it every 5 minutes or less with multiple orders.

And my god whatever happened to you can do whatever you want in eve. If he wants to be a space trucker ffs let him do it. Its a game and you shouldn't be personally offended that someone chooses to play sub optimally. I like doing exploration, I make like 500m-1b per hour with it, but I could make way more just going through chat channels advertising edlp. One of those things is extremely boring, one of them I enjoy. Do you want to flame me for that?

All you need in this game is enough money to buy the ships you want to fly, and if you dont want to spend RL money then you need money to plex. That's it. If whatever you do playing eve makes you that much, so be it.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44060 Posts
January 22 2013 10:22 GMT
#28416
On January 22 2013 19:07 hagon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 13:07 Impervious wrote:
No, there is not just one correct way to play. But there are so many terrible ways to play, and we're trying to stop him from playing in such a terrible way.


If someone is enjoying playing a game they are playing it right. Maybe someone enjoys watching their pixel space behemoth cruise between gates, maybe someone else finds chewing through rocks with their mining barge relaxing. The is no absolute of good or bad play style in Eve.

Although it is a sandbox the game does give positive feedback and quantifiable measures for success. Saying that it's all subjective is pretty silly given that.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
January 22 2013 10:43 GMT
#28417
On January 22 2013 19:22 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 19:07 hagon wrote:
On January 22 2013 13:07 Impervious wrote:
No, there is not just one correct way to play. But there are so many terrible ways to play, and we're trying to stop him from playing in such a terrible way.


If someone is enjoying playing a game they are playing it right. Maybe someone enjoys watching their pixel space behemoth cruise between gates, maybe someone else finds chewing through rocks with their mining barge relaxing. The is no absolute of good or bad play style in Eve.

Although it is a sandbox the game does give positive feedback and quantifiable measures for success. Saying that it's all subjective is pretty silly given that.


Measurable quantities of ISK? Kills? Whoop Dee Doo. Unless you get enjoyment from having the ISK or looking at the killmail of an awesome kill you made. By the criteria "measurable success" you must suck as the game has a mechanic where players can own sovereignty over parts of the map but you're so bad you don't have any.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 11:28:00
January 22 2013 11:12 GMT
#28418
On January 22 2013 19:43 hagon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 19:22 KwarK wrote:
On January 22 2013 19:07 hagon wrote:
On January 22 2013 13:07 Impervious wrote:
No, there is not just one correct way to play. But there are so many terrible ways to play, and we're trying to stop him from playing in such a terrible way.


If someone is enjoying playing a game they are playing it right. Maybe someone enjoys watching their pixel space behemoth cruise between gates, maybe someone else finds chewing through rocks with their mining barge relaxing. The is no absolute of good or bad play style in Eve.

Although it is a sandbox the game does give positive feedback and quantifiable measures for success. Saying that it's all subjective is pretty silly given that.


Measurable quantities of ISK? Kills? Whoop Dee Doo. Unless you get enjoyment from having the ISK or looking at the killmail of an awesome kill you made. By the criteria "measurable success" you must suck as the game has a mechanic where players can own sovereignty over parts of the map but you're so bad you don't have any.

Given that this started when the guy said he was freighting for isk then yes, I think isk in wallet is a quantifiable measure of success.

I'm not sure how this is disputable. He outright said that was why he was doing it.

Imagine the following conversation
"I'm digging for oil and I'm doing pretty well."
"But you're just digging a hole in your garden and it's 3ft deep and it's filling with water in the rain"
"Yes"
"So in what sense are you doing pretty well?"
"I don't understand"
"Well, have you found any oil?"
"I don't think that's relevant"

That's you. Unfortunately whether or not you find oil is pretty relevant to the success of the exercise.


There are a lot of potential goals in eve, from sov to isk to killboard efficiency to gudfites to tears and countless more. In each case however the question "are you achieving that goal" will always be the measure of success.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 11:29:32
January 22 2013 11:26 GMT
#28419
Ahahahaha Kwark's analogies are always signature material, too bad this one isn't a one liner and wouldn't fit as good as the eating the sand quote.

But yeah isk is definitely a quantifiable measurement for how you are doing, but arguing that is just a semantic. 'I do EDLP beacuse it makes me money' is true for me even though I don't make anywhere nearly as much as FW people do, but I also do it for the enjoyment factor of constantly interacting with people, so I consider it successful.
Moderator
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
January 22 2013 13:23 GMT
#28420
On January 22 2013 19:08 Mandini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 12:18 Impervious wrote:
Ok.....

How much isk did you invest into this? Not just the isk for the freightor and implants, but also the plex costs of the character you're using to freight stuff?

What if you put that isk onto a shitty trade alt, and simply updated buy/sell orders in a trading hub (not jita) instead? I can guarantee that you can get more isk/click with that much isk invested if you know what you are doing.....

Seriously, hauling is absolute shit. You're losing isk by doing it, not making it, because you could have been getting a better return by doing other things with the isk you invested.....

There is an insane amount of clicking with market. Sure you make more but you cant really do it afk if you want to make good money, orders need to be updated at the very least once every half hour and even then you are losing money not doing it every 5 minutes or less with multiple orders.

And my god whatever happened to you can do whatever you want in eve. If he wants to be a space trucker ffs let him do it. Its a game and you shouldn't be personally offended that someone chooses to play sub optimally. I like doing exploration, I make like 500m-1b per hour with it, but I could make way more just going through chat channels advertising edlp. One of those things is extremely boring, one of them I enjoy. Do you want to flame me for that?

All you need in this game is enough money to buy the ships you want to fly, and if you dont want to spend RL money then you need money to plex. That's it. If whatever you do playing eve makes you that much, so be it.

That's why I said not jita..... You can make good isk in other market hubs where there is a lot less volume, and a lot less competition, but more profit per item bought/sold. It's also a lot easier to manipulate.

How the fuck do you think I could pve in machariels and lose 3b isk machs every week? I lost isk doing level 4's..... I am terrible at pve, but the market is crazy good isk if you know what you're doing, and is basically afkable in many locations, you only need to login 2 or 3 times a day to get 1/2 of the profit you could get by updating your orders every 5 minutes.....
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