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Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
January 24 2013 22:42 GMT
#28501
t1 logis

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faction warfare tier system

great job
Serious Business
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
January 24 2013 23:30 GMT
#28502
On January 25 2013 07:19 Mandini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 07:00 Nyvis wrote:
On January 25 2013 06:35 Mandini wrote:
On January 25 2013 06:29 Nyvis wrote:
On January 25 2013 05:25 s0Li wrote:
Could you imagine someone staging a Titan out of a micro pos....


Could be funny, with both ends of the titan outside the forcefield :D

You would think if someone were to decide to do that they would realize this and not stay logged in afk.


A titan died a fiew weeks ago because his nose was out of his small pos, and he got afk long enough for someone to bump him out.
In EVE, if something stupid is doable, someone WILL do it. It's just a matter of when and where.

Edit : I agree with either having very cheap small pos or having a smaller, individual category of poses. If they are everywhere and everyone get to play a bit with them, it gives a great incentive for CCP to develop the feature. I'm not sure they should be as extremely simple as you suggest (I think you should be able to do big poses with low tank, for example, risk versus reward, an incentive for highsec wardecs if you spot them, etc ...), but simpler as they are currently, hell yes. I'd love to drop some poses to do stuff, but I don't want to bang my head against the wall setting them up, so I passed on the option.

One would think you might have noticed how many of us are making subtle jabs at how bad someone would have to be to let this happen to themselves to think that maybe the person who did that may just have happened to be one of us. Maybe.
Or you could just go back a few pages past all the shield battery drama and find out.


I'm new here, and to be fair, the said drama pushed me not to read back that much into the thread (read a good chunk of the first page and the last ones). Added to the fact that my english is far from perfect, I'm french, I read some english, but I don't have conversations full of subtle hints every days. Maybe I should read more of the thread !
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 24 2013 23:31 GMT
#28503
To be accepted into the TL eve community you have to read the entire thread anyway, so better get started now!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43215 Posts
January 24 2013 23:39 GMT
#28504
On January 25 2013 07:36 Shootemup. wrote:
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On January 25 2013 07:27 KwarK wrote:
An argument for competence based on them currently being at rock bottom? I maintain that limiting what we ask of them is the way forwards.

They have done a great job recently and I don't see why that would change

Their recent hits include POCOs (didn't really change anything), FW revamp (broke eve), war dec changes (broke eve), FW "fix" (still broken), bounty system (basically removed the old bounty system which was broken, no new content).

I think you have the bar set a little low.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 23:45:57
January 24 2013 23:42 GMT
#28505
On January 25 2013 08:31 kollin wrote:
To be accepted into the TL eve community you have to read the entire thread anyway, so better get started now!


Looking at some pages, it's so full of awesome drama I should really read through it...

But I might need some of my time trying to become an at least somewhat decent frigate pilot. Got the money to learn from my errors for a while, but it takes time too.

Edit : frig/destro/cruiser rebalance isn't far from being a real hit, though. And FW, as broken as it is, can be a way to find good fights. Worked pretty well on the few ones I did (I've been trying it for a week, more for the frigate fights than for the ISK, and it does pretty well. Incidentally got some LPs too, but I don't know how they compare to other LPs and which LP/isk conversion rate I can hope for because I didn't try to use them yet.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43215 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 23:49:43
January 24 2013 23:49 GMT
#28506
By fw being broken I mean in the sense that we farmed it for 5b isk/hr until CCP introduced a special overnight patch just to stop us personally although in fairness that was the second time, the first time it was broken for infinite isk generation until CCP introduced a special overnight patch to stop Goonswarm.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
January 24 2013 23:53 GMT
#28507
On January 25 2013 08:49 KwarK wrote:
By fw being broken I mean in the sense that we farmed it for 5b isk/hr until CCP introduced a special overnight patch just to stop us personally although in fairness that was the second time, the first time it was broken for infinite isk generation until CCP introduced a special overnight patch to stop Goonswarm.


I suppose you're talking of putting stuff on both side and killing each other, making more in LP value than you loss?
Is it completely fixed now, or can you still make it work?

You still need to sell the goods and risk market flooding, right?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
January 24 2013 23:54 GMT
#28508
On January 25 2013 08:49 KwarK wrote:
By fw being broken I mean in the sense that we farmed it for 5b isk/hr until CCP introduced a special overnight patch just to stop us personally although in fairness that was the second time, the first time it was broken for infinite isk generation until CCP introduced a special overnight patch to stop Goonswarm.

Whenever people ask me about how broken FW was I lowball massively at 2b isk/hr and they get flabbergasted already. I guess I might as well go full out from now on and quote 5b.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 23:56:11
January 24 2013 23:55 GMT
#28509
On January 25 2013 08:53 Nyvis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 08:49 KwarK wrote:
By fw being broken I mean in the sense that we farmed it for 5b isk/hr until CCP introduced a special overnight patch just to stop us personally although in fairness that was the second time, the first time it was broken for infinite isk generation until CCP introduced a special overnight patch to stop Goonswarm.


I suppose you're talking of putting stuff on both side and killing each other, making more in LP value than you loss?
Is it completely fixed now, or can you still make it work?

You still need to sell the goods and risk market flooding, right?

Yep, fixed.

No reason to sell everything in one go and flood the market. I believe it was all removed as well anyway.

edit: The thing you're alluding to was the way Goonswarm exploited the system. We exploited it completely differently and kept everything.
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Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
January 25 2013 00:01 GMT
#28510
You kept everything? That makes it a lot better than infinite isk you don't get to keep :D
Still not very healthy for the game.

I really don't know how game developers can oversee such issues. Can't they pay some guys like you to break their stuff down, and give them a bonus if they find something huge? Would not cost them that much, and could avoid the hassle of having to correct everything on a live feature...

And so, now, do you consider FW post fixes a hit?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43215 Posts
January 25 2013 00:13 GMT
#28511
On January 25 2013 09:01 Nyvis wrote:
You kept everything? That makes it a lot better than infinite isk you don't get to keep :D
Still not very healthy for the game.

I really don't know how game developers can oversee such issues. Can't they pay some guys like you to break their stuff down, and give them a bonus if they find something huge? Would not cost them that much, and could avoid the hassle of having to correct everything on a live feature...

And so, now, do you consider FW post fixes a hit?

It's still not particularly fixed.

And yes, we kept everything.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
January 25 2013 00:25 GMT
#28512
On January 25 2013 09:13 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 09:01 Nyvis wrote:
You kept everything? That makes it a lot better than infinite isk you don't get to keep :D
Still not very healthy for the game.

I really don't know how game developers can oversee such issues. Can't they pay some guys like you to break their stuff down, and give them a bonus if they find something huge? Would not cost them that much, and could avoid the hassle of having to correct everything on a live feature...

And so, now, do you consider FW post fixes a hit?

It's still not particularly fixed.

And yes, we kept everything.


By not fixed, you mean you can still do 5b/hour in FW? Without it being punished by CCP?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43215 Posts
January 25 2013 00:30 GMT
#28513
On January 25 2013 09:25 Nyvis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 09:13 KwarK wrote:
On January 25 2013 09:01 Nyvis wrote:
You kept everything? That makes it a lot better than infinite isk you don't get to keep :D
Still not very healthy for the game.

I really don't know how game developers can oversee such issues. Can't they pay some guys like you to break their stuff down, and give them a bonus if they find something huge? Would not cost them that much, and could avoid the hassle of having to correct everything on a live feature...

And so, now, do you consider FW post fixes a hit?

It's still not particularly fixed.

And yes, we kept everything.


By not fixed, you mean you can still do 5b/hour in FW? Without it being punished by CCP?

Nope, you can do over a bil an hour if you multibox I think though whereas incursions were never anything like that bad.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
January 25 2013 00:35 GMT
#28514
Do you mean just multiboxing plexes? Can trials enter FW?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43215 Posts
January 25 2013 00:36 GMT
#28515
Why have trials. 51s are still relatively free. Have someone who needs to plex anyway in the tl corp make you a 51.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 00:55:07
January 25 2013 00:54 GMT
#28516
I see. Sounds like some work to pull off all the multiboxing. I don't think I can do more than 3-4 accounts with my laptop.
I've tried to look at FW mechanics on EVE wikis, but they aren't really documented (yet?). For example, is being more than one in a plex helpful to capture (not fight) in any way?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43215 Posts
January 25 2013 01:04 GMT
#28517
No. Also missions are where the isk was.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
January 25 2013 01:15 GMT
#28518
Okay, if it's in missions, I'd rather stay out of it, I can't really stand EVE's pve content.
I don't really know why there is missions in FW, now that plexes are the core mechanic. They don't contribute to the war effort at all... If it's where the brokenness is, CCP could just remove them, there is no logic in getting FW LPs by doing the same pve you do to get standard corporations LPs...
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43215 Posts
January 25 2013 01:25 GMT
#28519
er, the missions are pretty much no different to plexes. You accept a mission and it creates a beacon in a fw system that anyone can warp to where you must blow shit up.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
January 25 2013 01:30 GMT
#28520
They're not standard missions? Okay, maybe I should have a look. :p
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