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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
On January 26 2013 01:29 Ueberlisk wrote: Note to self. Don't alt tab to browse internet when first rat of the plex is missing. Suddenly proteus. Ouch, and he had machariel backup no less. Well at least you killed the proteus. Wonder how long he was hanging there. | ||
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JethroSC
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Firebolt145
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
i havent heard of a single one of them. And it looks like none of the current members are running for it again, weird. | ||
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Omigawa
United States1556 Posts
On January 26 2013 10:43 Warri wrote: Current csm8 candidates: http://crossingzebras.com/CSM8 i havent heard of a single one of them. And it looks like none of the current members are running for it again, weird. Mynnna writes for the TheMittani.com. Back when they nerf'd FW he posted that 190b picture that KwarK posted earlier in this thread, and he cried multiple times specifically about how Hatchery members abused FW mechanics in his articles from what I remember. That always made me laugh. Malcanis I only know from reading EVE-O forums, Mangala is the leader/creator of RvB... other than that I don't anyone else on that list. | ||
KwarK
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KwarK
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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Mandini
United States1717 Posts
On January 26 2013 20:40 KwarK wrote: Well gents, the plexopalypse has hit us and I'm down about 60b. But I'm playing the long game, we'll see. Sunk cost | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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KwarK
United States41980 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34483 Posts
Also, you don't have 120 accounts, why are you down 60b from plexes? | ||
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KwarK
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KwarK
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34483 Posts
and I'm just gonna quote that every time you say 'I quit eve' | ||
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KwarK
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Nyvis
France284 Posts
On January 26 2013 10:43 Warri wrote: Current csm8 candidates: http://crossingzebras.com/CSM8 i havent heard of a single one of them. And it looks like none of the current members are running for it again, weird. Pretty sure we're far from having every candidate on board. Heard only of Mynnna and Malcanis, and didn't know anything about Malcanis except his name. I read some of his posts, and he does have some views on highsec. Views I don't completely agree with, but at least he does have some. Highsec is utterly broken, and him having looked at it seems more important than the said ideas in detail. I really want at least one CSM to push CCP into looking at it. It's where most of their playerbase is, it's so different from lowsec and nullsec that it scares away people from them really hard (I'm really active on help channels, and a relatively new player asked me "is there anything between mostly safe highsec and everyone want to kill you lowsec/nullsec ....). Not sure Malcanis is the candidate for that, but at least he does have the idea in mind. I know Mynnna for the TheMittani.com posts, but I don't really remember any specific traits about her posts. I think I'll wait to know is some more well known figures will compete. Edit : read the different posts of current candidates. No one is addressing my real concern : there is still a shit ton of non-interactive, non-sandboxy npc driven things in EVE. Especially in HighSec, but most highsec candidates are more about their little lives than reworking the whole stuff. Current highsec is a joke, where most actions have no real EVE consequences. You run missions but there is an infinite stream of NPCs lining up to be killed, and concord pulls isks from their pockets to pay you. NPCs have the exclusivity on manufacturing meta modules, and no one can study and exploit their knowledge to produce them too, so industry is limited to the very simple T1 producing and the very complex and pos requiring T2 producing, with a huge jump between them, and with the T1 market being clogged with people selling at a loss. I really think pvp in EVE is mostly fine, and just need some tweaks (ship balance, some sov tweaks, fix the broken stuff ...), and CCP have looked a lot at the "destroy" part of the cycle, and need to work deeper in the harvest/produce parts, which are broken in deeper ways that most CSM candidates advocate. I think missions should not be the main, easiest, and more natural way for new people to go and make ISK, because they are producing and adding nothing to the EVE universe. Instead, missions should be a necessity to protect other activities from pirats and allow the real, producing ones to be successful and create a flow of isk. And for me, this goes with a profound rework of how security status interact with EVE actions. Having a good sec status should be something positive for industry and harvesting (still limited by the region you're in, highsec stays with the resources of highsec and so on), and having a bad sec status should create a lot more of anti-NPC actions... Which would in turn up the said sec status. With a better balance of missions (you could take from high sec status, but be send to a lower one), anomalies, exploration and static plexes in it. This would make highsec far more dynamic, with industrials having to engage people for missions (which should be less rewarding if no one cares about the system, but have bonus rewards if people care and want you to protect it) to keep a high sec status and avoid having to move their operations. And pve players would have to go around to find the most profitable systems in which they want to hunt, or have their earnings slowly decrease. It's mostly the same idea as "nullsec sov control should come from activity in a zone". Why not push it more? Everything in EVE should depend in the player activities in the region! No one should run missions and see "nothing is happening". FW was a good step in this direction, even if it have it's flaws, and the solution to highsec could be some sort of "pve FW". With sec status instead of system sovereignty at stake. Highsec is where everyone starts in the game, it should not be only a lonely place for carebears who do not want interactions and for marketeers who only see orders and not people (the market need some love, too, at the moment, it's hardly possible to do something market related in group, because you're either bolstering concurrence or being betrayed). | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
On January 26 2013 21:59 Nyvis wrote: Pretty sure we're far from having every candidate on board. Heard only of Mynnna and Malcanis, and didn't know anything about Malcanis except his name. I read some of his posts, and he does have some views on highsec. Views I don't completely agree with, but at least he does have some. Highsec is utterly broken, and him having looked at it seems more important than the said ideas in detail. I really want at least one CSM to push CCP into looking at it. It's where most of their playerbase is, it's so different from lowsec and nullsec that it scares away people from them really hard (I'm really active on help channels, and a relatively new player asked me "is there anything between mostly safe highsec and everyone want to kill you lowsec/nullsec ....). Not sure Malcanis is the candidate for that, but at least he does have the idea in mind. I know Mynnna for the TheMittani.com posts, but I don't really remember any specific traits about her posts. I think I'll wait to know is some more well known figures will compete. Ah now that you say it, iirc mynna is corestwo, he mentioned he wanted to run for it in the channel too. Literally every part of EVE is completely broken depending from which perspective you look at it. In my opinion, highsec with the new crimewatch, is fine and its income could use a nerf to force players into low/null. But then again most of them would just quit the game i guess. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule18975 Posts
On January 26 2013 21:59 Nyvis wrote: Pretty sure we're far from having every candidate on board. Heard only of Mynnna and Malcanis, and didn't know anything about Malcanis except his name. I read some of his posts, and he does have some views on highsec. Views I don't completely agree with, but at least he does have some. Highsec is utterly broken, and him having looked at it seems more important than the said ideas in detail. I really want at least one CSM to push CCP into looking at it. It's where most of their playerbase is, it's so different from lowsec and nullsec that it scares away people from them really hard (I'm really active on help channels, and a relatively new player asked me "is there anything between mostly safe highsec and everyone want to kill you lowsec/nullsec ....). Not sure Malcanis is the candidate for that, but at least he does have the idea in mind. I know Mynnna for the TheMittani.com posts, but I don't really remember any specific traits about her posts. I think I'll wait to know is some more well known figures will compete. The POS system is utterly fucked. Highsec is just not quite working properly. | ||
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Nyvis
France284 Posts
On January 26 2013 22:23 tofucake wrote: The POS system is utterly fucked. Highsec is just not quite working properly. I posted on my views of highsec and why I think it's broken in edit. But I agree the pos system is really bad... And could be a way to start solving highsec problems by making pos industry and research more attractive, driving people away from non-interactive missions toward building something in EVE. Once they're in industry, you just have to fix lowsec/nullsec industry to give them an incentive to go down there. When I started EVE, I wanted to do some industry instead of running stupid missions, but the fact that you need costly poses and nearly infinite standing (so, missions!) to drop a pos is really deterring for new players wanting to go into industry. Also, the fact that the T1 market is utterly fucked (people think what they mine is free and so sell their industry below the real production cost) and that the T2 market is a HUGE jump from T1 for people discovering industry makes it really hard to get into. For EVE to be a stable game, creating and destroying should be balanced (there is too much creation by too few people). And anything not participating in the circle outed (missions!). But CCP isn't looking at it at all. PvP players have always been the one crying the harder for changes, because they are the most vocal and the ones with the best visibility and organisation, but one of the best EVE expansions, Apocrypha, had a nice balance of harvest, create and destroy. For me, that's the way to go. You can't work on only one part of the cycle and expect the other to survive like this. For the sake of pvp, we need more meaningful industry... To create things pvp can impact. | ||
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