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ploy
Profile Joined January 2006
United States416 Posts
December 11 2011 15:55 GMT
#1701
Shoot, I didn't know that when you preordered mattered for when you got to play. If I ordered just a couple days ago do you think I'll be able to play by Friday? I was really looking forward to totally nerding out all next weekend..

Also, here is a pretty good review from someone who has put a ton of hours into most of the big MMOs that have come out over the years - it's a review of the end game content as it is right now:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1036603-Level-50-Beta-End-Game-Review-Final-Build
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
December 11 2011 16:14 GMT
#1702
On December 11 2011 22:34 AT_Tack wrote:
So i heard early access starts tuesday? I received a letter confirming it, dont know if i will actually get to play on 1st early access day but i redeemed my pre-order code like 4 months ago...


What do you mean by you received a letter confirming it? Like bioware emailed you saying that access starts Tuesday?
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 11 2011 17:05 GMT
#1703
On December 12 2011 00:55 ploy wrote:
Shoot, I didn't know that when you preordered mattered for when you got to play. If I ordered just a couple days ago do you think I'll be able to play by Friday? I was really looking forward to totally nerding out all next weekend..

Also, here is a pretty good review from someone who has put a ton of hours into most of the big MMOs that have come out over the years - it's a review of the end game content as it is right now:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1036603-Level-50-Beta-End-Game-Review-Final-Build



i expect that most preorders will be able to play by the 15th, and almost everyone by the 18th.
But who knows, maybe they are really anal with letting only early preorder people enjoy the headstart, the servers should be able to handle my scenario.
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
December 11 2011 18:15 GMT
#1704
I've preordered the game today extremely excited after long deliberation should I sink myself into another MMO, but now I am confuses as hell. I have no idea which class to choose. I've spend last 3 hours browsing the web, swtor official class trailers and youtube gameplay movies and I'm even more confused Now my question is, if I pick a class and a specialization for example Sith Soccerer, what is my wiggle room. obviously I can't change the class, I can respec my talent tree, however am I able to respec to a Sith Assasin?
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
December 11 2011 18:38 GMT
#1705
On December 12 2011 03:15 Jochan wrote:
I've preordered the game today extremely excited after long deliberation should I sink myself into another MMO, but now I am confuses as hell. I have no idea which class to choose. I've spend last 3 hours browsing the web, swtor official class trailers and youtube gameplay movies and I'm even more confused Now my question is, if I pick a class and a specialization for example Sith Soccerer, what is my wiggle room. obviously I can't change the class, I can respec my talent tree, however am I able to respec to a Sith Assasin?

You cant change your Advanced Class only your skill trees. So no Assassin you just pick whatever class you like ^^ but most people will play Inquisitor. I did link a great faq 1-2 pages back :o
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
December 11 2011 18:48 GMT
#1706
On December 12 2011 03:15 Jochan wrote:
I've preordered the game today extremely excited after long deliberation should I sink myself into another MMO, but now I am confuses as hell. I have no idea which class to choose. I've spend last 3 hours browsing the web, swtor official class trailers and youtube gameplay movies and I'm even more confused Now my question is, if I pick a class and a specialization for example Sith Soccerer, what is my wiggle room. obviously I can't change the class, I can respec my talent tree, however am I able to respec to a Sith Assasin?


I got to play some beta, and unless they change it, you are stuck as a sorcerer or assassin..

What i'd suggest is decide what your primary interest is, Healer / DPS / Tank.

For DPS you can be any of the 4 classes and any of the 8 sub classes.

Tanks and Healers are a little trickier.
What decided it for me, I looked more at their weapons.

Sith Warrior , Juggernaut uses 1 single blade lightsaber as tank or dps.
Sith Warrior, Marauder uses 2 single blade lightsabers as dps.

Bounty Hunter, Powertech uses 1 gun as tank or dps
Bounty Hunter, Mercenary uses 2 guns as dps or healer

Sith Inquisitor, Assassin uses double bladed lightsaber as tank or dps
Sith Inquisitor, Sorcerer uses 1 single bladed lightsaber as healer or dps

Imperial Agent, Operative uses rifle and dagger as dps or healer
Imperial Agent, Sniper uses sniper rifle and dagger as dps

Ultimately you could of found this all out already, but this is what helped me decide, I really care what I look and play like in this game, also keep in mind when I say dps, it could be melee, ranged or caster you'll have to look into that.
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
December 11 2011 19:23 GMT
#1707
On December 12 2011 03:38 smileyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 03:15 Jochan wrote:
I've preordered the game today extremely excited after long deliberation should I sink myself into another MMO, but now I am confuses as hell. I have no idea which class to choose. I've spend last 3 hours browsing the web, swtor official class trailers and youtube gameplay movies and I'm even more confused Now my question is, if I pick a class and a specialization for example Sith Soccerer, what is my wiggle room. obviously I can't change the class, I can respec my talent tree, however am I able to respec to a Sith Assasin?

You cant change your Advanced Class only your skill trees. So no Assassin you just pick whatever class you like ^^ but most people will play Inquisitor. I did link a great faq 1-2 pages back :o

Yes I did read that, while it's great and vast, has some great information about the game itself, it's class description is very general.

On December 12 2011 03:48 Devise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 03:15 Jochan wrote:
I've preordered the game today extremely excited after long deliberation should I sink myself into another MMO, but now I am confuses as hell. I have no idea which class to choose. I've spend last 3 hours browsing the web, swtor official class trailers and youtube gameplay movies and I'm even more confused Now my question is, if I pick a class and a specialization for example Sith Soccerer, what is my wiggle room. obviously I can't change the class, I can respec my talent tree, however am I able to respec to a Sith Assasin?


I got to play some beta, and unless they change it, you are stuck as a sorcerer or assassin..

What i'd suggest is decide what your primary interest is, Healer / DPS / Tank.

For DPS you can be any of the 4 classes and any of the 8 sub classes.

Tanks and Healers are a little trickier.
What decided it for me, I looked more at their weapons.

Sith Warrior , Juggernaut uses 1 single blade lightsaber as tank or dps.
Sith Warrior, Marauder uses 2 single blade lightsabers as dps.

Bounty Hunter, Powertech uses 1 gun as tank or dps
Bounty Hunter, Mercenary uses 2 guns as dps or healer

Sith Inquisitor, Assassin uses double bladed lightsaber as tank or dps
Sith Inquisitor, Sorcerer uses 1 single bladed lightsaber as healer or dps

Imperial Agent, Operative uses rifle and dagger as dps or healer
Imperial Agent, Sniper uses sniper rifle and dagger as dps

Ultimately you could of found this all out already, but this is what helped me decide, I really care what I look and play like in this game, also keep in mind when I say dps, it could be melee, ranged or caster you'll have to look into that.

I already know that, I went deeper, thinking about a tank character, checked the skill calculators at torhead and saw that Sith Assasin is basically a WoW rogue with cheap shot, kidney shot, sap, backstab, vanish etc etc. I'm thinking about tank/dps, sith with light saber, I am only left with Sith Juggernaut if I don't want a rogue
So maybe healer ? I don't know, I am so confused. I guess I will lose few days just playing classes to 20ish lvl to check them out.
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
neohero9
Profile Joined May 2010
United States595 Posts
December 11 2011 22:02 GMT
#1708
Sith Assassins also have a tanking tree (Darkness). Lots of defensive talents, no positional attack buffs.
From what I hear, their tanking "aptitude" differs from the Jugg a bit too-- they are really good at keeping threat on packs, while the Jugg has fewer abilities to generate multi-target threat. But that's all second-hand scuttlebutt, so take it with a healthy pinch of salt.
I cannot stand ignorance or dismissiveness. I edit every post I make-- I've edited this sig three times in an hour.
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
December 11 2011 22:10 GMT
#1709
Does anyone know how theyre going to make weapons look unique or will they all just look like lightsabers and stuff?
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
December 11 2011 22:50 GMT
#1710
On December 12 2011 07:10 Jayrod wrote:
Does anyone know how theyre going to make weapons look unique or will they all just look like lightsabers and stuff?


I have thought about this too, i guess they could make really rare colours? sorta like black and stuff (like Force Unleashed)
Flyingcookie
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 23:34:48
December 11 2011 23:34 GMT
#1711
you still can craft and use vibroblades ect. later but its kinda strange for forceusers :D
Try to (b)eat the cookie!
Deltablazy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada580 Posts
December 11 2011 23:39 GMT
#1712
A lightsaber will always look like a lightsaber. I once bought a rare quality lightsaber from commendation tokens, it looked just like your starting lightsaber, but with better stats.

But honestly dont expect to yield huge axes that blink in light or pistols of the size of your helmet.
neohero9
Profile Joined May 2010
United States595 Posts
December 11 2011 23:51 GMT
#1713
Yeah. No guns the size of your effing torso. Unless you're a Commando, but those guys are freaking baller, and they're basically wielding artillery.

Anywho, sabers have changeable color crystals (most of which have stats). The available colors include commonly seen ones (red, blue, green, orange, yellow), the Windu Special (purple), black-core crystals (like the preorder crystal, which is yellow with a black core; also blue w/black core is available), and new, supremely awesome colors (white and cyan both look sexy as shit).

Many of these can be gathered from a quick torhead.com search, or seen in PVP videos. Do a youtube search for 'swtor 50 pvp' and you'll find some eye-goodies to look at.

As far as the hilts go, I'm not sure how distinctive they look. While I hope for some variety, the blade is really where the aesthetic action is.
I cannot stand ignorance or dismissiveness. I edit every post I make-- I've edited this sig three times in an hour.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
December 12 2011 00:03 GMT
#1714
On December 12 2011 03:48 Devise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 03:15 Jochan wrote:
I've preordered the game today extremely excited after long deliberation should I sink myself into another MMO, but now I am confuses as hell. I have no idea which class to choose. I've spend last 3 hours browsing the web, swtor official class trailers and youtube gameplay movies and I'm even more confused Now my question is, if I pick a class and a specialization for example Sith Soccerer, what is my wiggle room. obviously I can't change the class, I can respec my talent tree, however am I able to respec to a Sith Assasin?


I got to play some beta, and unless they change it, you are stuck as a sorcerer or assassin..

What i'd suggest is decide what your primary interest is, Healer / DPS / Tank.

For DPS you can be any of the 4 classes and any of the 8 sub classes.

Tanks and Healers are a little trickier.
What decided it for me, I looked more at their weapons.

Sith Warrior , Juggernaut uses 1 single blade lightsaber as tank or dps.
Sith Warrior, Marauder uses 2 single blade lightsabers as dps.

Bounty Hunter, Powertech uses 1 gun as tank or dps
Bounty Hunter, Mercenary uses 2 guns as dps or healer

Sith Inquisitor, Assassin uses double bladed lightsaber as tank or dps
Sith Inquisitor, Sorcerer uses 1 single bladed lightsaber as healer or dps

Imperial Agent, Operative uses rifle and dagger as dps or healer
Imperial Agent, Sniper uses sniper rifle and dagger as dps

Ultimately you could of found this all out already, but this is what helped me decide, I really care what I look and play like in this game, also keep in mind when I say dps, it could be melee, ranged or caster you'll have to look into that.


Are you sure the Assasin can tank? I was under the impression it was DPS only
neohero9
Profile Joined May 2010
United States595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 00:09:45
December 12 2011 00:06 GMT
#1715
On December 12 2011 09:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Are you sure the Assasin can tank? I was under the impression it was DPS only


They have a skill tree devoted to it, called "Darkness". The only classes which cannot fulfill the Tank role (strictly speaking) are the Agent and the Smuggler.

EDIT: Here. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#200.1
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Deltablazy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada580 Posts
December 12 2011 00:17 GMT
#1716
Assassins have a tanking tree. They can tank if they want to, if not they go dps. Just because he's called an assassin doesn't mean he has to be a rogue, stealth and giggles.

The difference between the 3 tanking classes are the stats and ways of tanking.
Juggernauts have the best endurance, Assassins have best mitigation, Powertechs have best avoidance.

Obviously ranged tanking is new so I cant comment much about it, juggernauts are like protection warriors and assassins are like protection paladins, in terms of aggro management. Powertechs are like druids/dks.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 12 2011 00:17 GMT
#1717
About authenticatiors:

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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 12 2011 00:26 GMT
#1718
assassins are perfectly viable tanks, they even have force pull.



dont the lightsabers have different handles? If not, then i guess colors and core-colors must be enough to make endgame lightsabers look unique.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
December 12 2011 00:47 GMT
#1719
Oh wow I was just mistaken then. That's kinda cool actually that they can tank as well.
Riskr
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 09:21:19
December 12 2011 08:15 GMT
#1720
the tank tree from the Assasin is mostly based on absorbs of your lightsabercharge.its quite funny and more action oriented tanking than WoW,in my opinion,and i tanked much stuff.
that beeing said,fasthitting bosses or druids are quite dangerous due to their ability to remove your charges quite fast.(and believe me you get hit hard if you dont have charges left,which leaves you in a state of vulnerability and much inc. dmg until your charges-cd comes up again.)
you get a taunt ability relatively early (at about 15 i think) with a 15 sec cd.
Single target threat is somewhat of a problem but gets better in the later stages.
The aoe ability from the Assasin is kind of limited till 30 on which point you get the Masstaunt ability,altough you can unleash your lightsabercharge to do a aoe threat ability which is quite nice but on the other hand removes cc,if you are not careful.
the Juggernaut on the other hand is more of a "constant less incoming dmg" tank.
More armor,much single target threat abilitys,good gapclosers,etc...so he will probably be the Maintank for slower hardhitting bosses,but cant really say so until the operations.
P.S.:i tanked in the beta all flashpoints up to Cademimu with lvl 28-30 which was really hard at 28,but then got resolved at around 30.so the 2 more lvls made quite the difference.
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