EPTOn November 29 2011 21:29 Arnstein wrote:
GCD? Greatest common divisor? :p
GCD? Greatest common divisor? :p
Global Cool Down.
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DrSeRRoD
United States490 Posts
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Mallidon
Scotland557 Posts
A lot of people will focus on things and throw them in like they are negatives. 'It's just WoW in the Star Wars universe' - And? Take the most popular MMO and stick it in Star Wars lore, sign me up!? 'Combat is too slow' - So you cannot one shot people without them being able to do something, that's a GOOD thing imo! 'Its boring/ grindy' - I found the story pretty good, could have some replay value light/dark differences. Grindy? That's MMO's  'The graphics are not as good as Skyrim' - Of course not, you wouldn't get 100 people playing on Skyrim without it blowing up. Overall, I liked it a lot. I hadn't pre ordered but am going to now. Looking forward to it coming out <3 | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On November 29 2011 18:15 Alokiya wrote: Why re-invent when you can take some insanely successful features, re work them a little bit, add some production value and call it good! Because MMO players are losing interest in WoW-like MMO now. People want something new in MMOs, most of them played WoW for 5 years. That's why i'm waiting for GW2 and not for SWTOR. I have nothing against the game, the RPG elements in it look awsome ( so many class related quests, where they totaly abandonned them in WoW ) but in the end, the story and quests ain't enough to forgive a pretty boring gameplay. | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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GTR
51679 Posts
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krayzy
Belgium66 Posts
WoW was the first in his genre, yeah that's true. But in NO WAY this game is comparable to WoW. All MMO's have the same basics (quests, skills etc...) but the gameplay is completely different. There is a much deeper story/questline in game and for each of the classes you have specific class quests besides the normal 'planet' quests. If you compare a cartoon like MMO like WoW to a story/movie based MMO like Star Wars, then for me you are retarded and you shouldn't even test the game. Your opinion is purely based on what you saw in WoW and what you see in SWTOR. That is not how you judge a game. It's like comparing Battlefield 3 to Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4. Both war games, but both completely different styles. Then we can start doing the same with WoW and GW2. They're also both WoW-like so they suck? That's not how you should be reasoning. Besides that, I leveled to about 20 on beta this weekend and I found it great. Flashpoints are great to do, I loved the spaceship combat. Haven't tested PvP yet, but i have pre-ordered the game so will be able to test it out in a few weeks. | ||
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AT_Tack
Germany435 Posts
This game is different. From the first quest i was hooked into the characters and story and i couldnt wait to get more of it. Dialogues with party members were also amazing, they laughed at me because my superior treated me like a piece of shit. It just feels like i mean something here. Only Gripe with the game i have is the game performance itself, which should, given the graphics of this game, run a lot smoother on my comp. Also the phasing system was very annoying. we tried to tackle a heroic quests with a full group but half of our party members were in another instance of the world and the game didnt allow them to phase. Im happy i preordered this game. I dont know if i will still be playing when Diablo 3 will be released but this is going to be a very fun christmas for me | ||
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Mallidon
Scotland557 Posts
On November 29 2011 23:57 AT_Tack wrote: I actually liked the game very much. Although the Quests were dull (as expected) the story and the characters were very biowareish and kept me motivated throughout the weekend. In wow there was NO story while leveling and i never bothered to read quest descriptions because they couldnt be more meaningless. There was no fun until endgame. This game is different. From the first quest i was hooked into the characters and story and i couldnt wait to get more of it. Dialogues with party members were also amazing, they laughed at me because my superior treated me like a piece of shit. It just feels like i mean something here. Only Gripe with the game i have is the game performance itself, which should, given the graphics of this game, run a lot smoother on my comp. Also the phasing system was very annoying. we tried to tackle a heroic quests with a full group but half of our party members were in another instance of the world and the game didnt allow them to phase. Im happy i preordered this game. I dont know if i will still be playing when Diablo 3 will be released but this is going to be a very fun christmas for me Hmm, I've seen a few people complain about the game performance, but didn't really have any issues myself even though my internet is flaky and my computer is positively low spec (well the graphics card is a GT 220, go figure lol). Its a bit odd. I played mainly with low settings, but did actually test out medium and high and it made no huge difference to my performance. Not saying I disbelieve you or your pc sucks or anything, just finding it odd :D Could be something to do with graphics drivers or whatever, I don't know. I know I can play Battlefield 3 somehow with my horrible setup and someone with much better specs had issues mainly due to drivers (iirc). Hopefully it all works great when it comes out Edit - changed a word  | ||
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DreamScaR
Canada2127 Posts
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Takyn
Germany42 Posts
On November 29 2011 23:37 krayzy wrote:WoW was the first in his genre, yeah that's true. But in NO WAY this game is comparable to WoW. No it was not. In fact WoW took a lot of features from Everquest and just improved on it and kept adding own stuff as well as stuff from later games. On November 29 2011 23:37 krayzy wrote:All MMO's have the same basics (quests, skills etc...) but the gameplay is completely different. No they do not, only since WoW all the "big" MMOs try to emulate it as much as possible which is why you might have this impression. There are a few very different MMOs out there, and before WoW there used to be much more variety in MMOs. SWTOR might have a very extensive dialog system tacked onto the questing, but under that are still the very same mechanics, combat, skills and classes like in WoW. And that's why people can easily compare the two. Personally, I'm fed up with these kind of games. I've played MMOs since 1997 and played WoW for 4 or 5 years at which point it got boring.. all the big titles after it just left me bored after the first month, due to the fact there is very little difference to WoW. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
i dont like solo questing in MMOs, i dont know why anyone would do it. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On November 29 2011 17:46 Rikke wrote: "but if they don't do something about the lack of instance-searching system like in WoW" Thats a great thing, that there is no 1-button+port to instance bullshit! that destroyed the server communities in wow. A MMO has to have some communication. @CHINA Try a VPN/Proxy. Lol @ "server communities." The only server community you had was 2-4 players who grouped multiple times because they didn't suck. You get the same thing from guild runs. On November 30 2011 00:37 LaNague wrote: Is this purely quest based or can i group up and kill strong group mobs over and over to level? i dont like solo questing in MMOs, i dont know why anyone would do it. You can do that if you want, but quests are weighted to the extreme. In an area, you may get 80 xp from a group of mobs, and 7000 xp from the quest. You will become rich though. | ||
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Rikke
Germany302 Posts
Because MMO players are losing interest in WoW-like MMO now. People want something new in MMOs, most of them played WoW for 5 years. Thats bullshit! People don't want something new. There can't be something new. MMOs are MMOs - they will always have the same basics. And WoW is so bad, because its so hardcore casual since Mid-FailKing that the game is absolutly no fun anymore. SWTOR gives you new motivation to see all classes/dungeons and raids. I played 3 Chars to 35-39 from August to October and never had so much fun in the last 3 years, even in a really bad beta-build. i dont like solo questing in MMOs, i dont know why anyone would do it. Play the Beta! The Game forces you to join Grps, because in every questzone there're alot of 4+ Heroic-Quests, which need a grp and give decent rewards. | ||
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
That said, I did enjoy my time over the weekend. The storylines are pretty great and I'm looking forward to playing more of those at launch, these are obviously this game's defining feature and it does those pretty well. I don't know how others felt, but I felt the non-Force-user ones were way more interesting, which seemed a little ironic. They may have taken on this huge existing universe but in the end it seems Bioware will always be best at what they can completely make up themselves. For me personally it'll depend on what they do next with it that'll decide how long my adventures in their game will take. In a game like this I really feel like raids/endgame aren't the main attraction (more of the same is still more of the same), but considering how long Blizzard with all their resources/experience take to patch new stuff in.. well I don't know. It looks like we'll have some fun with what we already have however and that's the main thing right? | ||
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
On November 30 2011 00:47 Rikke wrote: Thats bullshit! People don't want something new. There can't be something new. MMOs are MMOs - they will always have the same basics. And WoW is so bad, because its so hardcore casual since Mid-FailKing that the game is absolutly no fun anymore. SWTOR gives you new motivation to see all classes/dungeons and raids. I played 3 Chars to 35-39 from August to October and never had so much fun in the last 3 years, even in a really bad beta-build. Play the Beta! The Game forces you to join Grps, because in every questzone there're alot of 4+ Heroic-Quests, which need a grp and give decent rewards. I want something new. Are you calling me not people? Just because I'm Zerg I bet, that's specieist that is. The reason WoW was actually so good is because they did new things (hush they did, in the beginning) and refined what they took elsewhere really well. For any game to ever have such an impact again, it can't just copy what WoW already has. That doesn't mean all those other games are bad games, but it does mean they will be disappointing for some. Denying that won't change it. | ||
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Monasou
United States218 Posts
Guess i'll wait a month after release. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On November 29 2011 23:37 krayzy wrote: WoW was the first in his genre, yeah that's true. Way to just completely discredit your opinion on this matter by making such an uninformed statement. WoW may have been YOUR first MMO, but please don't make such assumptions. ... On November 30 2011 00:47 Rikke wrote: Thats bullshit! People don't want something new. There can't be something new. MMOs are MMOs - they will always have the same basics. I won't go into huge detail since this isn't the correct thread for it, but you clearly haven't looked at all into Guild Wars 2. It may not be the greatest thing since sliced bread; but it is changing A LOT about the genre and really has potential. And millions of people are looking forward to it, simply because it's "something new" Please stop making uninformed generalizations. Please. | ||
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suxN
Finland1167 Posts
On November 30 2011 00:47 Rikke wrote: Thats bullshit! People don't want something new. There can't be something new. MMOs are MMOs - they will always have the same basics. And WoW is so bad, because its so hardcore casual since Mid-FailKing that the game is absolutly no fun anymore. Well, im not an mmo expert but there are games like EVE online, face of mankind, darkfall, vindictus, entropia universe and secondlife that differ greatly from wow. Im not sure what to expect from gw2 but it doesnt seem like a game that can be considered a "wow clone". Just because wow has become the stablestone for all other mmo's to measure, it doesnt mean every mmo is like it (though i do agree that warhammer online, rift, aion and lotslots games are extremely similiar to it). | ||
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ryerye
Canada53 Posts
On November 29 2011 23:25 GTR wrote: am i the only one who found the profession system in the game REALLY annoying? I agree, I couldn't find a way to just do the crafting myself instead of having my companions do it. When I had a bag full of materials I wanted to use them all up right away but the only way to craft it all was to make my pets do it and it takes them about 1 minute just to craft 1 item. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
The game was pretty different and enjoyable wouldnt it be for a few crucial mistakes that completely ruined the game for everyone at the highest levels. Rift was good and promising, but at the last minute they did a 180 and introduced global cooldown and watered down classes in fear of alienating the big WoW playerbase. | ||
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