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brokor
Profile Joined June 2011
Greece235 Posts
January 12 2012 11:23 GMT
#3761
On January 12 2012 14:24 quickshot10101 wrote:


A simple little graphics comparison done in 1080 on a decent rig. Should give people a idea what each setting by itself does and what it changes and how it looks. Performance wise every setting alone did not effect my frame rate at all (110fps always) untill setting everything to high which resulted in 76fps. I think the games max is 110 but im not 100% sure on that.

Overall I hope this helps people decide if turning that one setting up is worth it or not. And if a upgrade would even be worth it. I have gotten used to running maxed but if I had only ever played on low I dont think I would feel all that left out, Still a very decent looking game. I think for overall feel turning grass & tress to 100% and shaders and shadows to high would be best. bloom,af dont seem to have much of an effect. I wonder how much better the game would have looked with the full high res textures we now know are being withheld from us


COMPUTER SPECS

*Windows 7 - 64 Bit
*Tower: Cooler Master 690
*Processor: Intel Core i5-2500 3.3ghz OC'ed to 4.7ghz
*Ram: 8GB 1600mhz g.skill ripjaws
*Graphics Card: Ati 6850 x2 crossfire Oc'ed to 930/1150
*Mother Board: Asus P8P67
*Power Supply: Antec current gamer 620watt
*Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM

afaik this game has no dx11 support, so my 4year old rig plays everything on max aswell on smooth 55-75 fps. i just slid everything to max and it's lighter than every game i have loaded past 2 years. i just dislike bloom effect by experience so it is off always, dunno how taxing it is on the performance.

on the other hand my friend with 560ti and i5 has 30 fps max with shadows off cause his prebuilt alienware pc wont let him update nvidia drivers.

so if you think an expensive pc is needed for this game plz dont go buy one just for this. i have a q9550 at stock 3.2ghz and a gtx280 at 690/1100 , with windows xp 32bit and i play this game on 60 fps like 95% of the time. the only place i get fps drops is the pvp quest board on imperial fleet cause evidently it loads the animations of 80 people queuing/giving back the quest. at least in pvp/instances/class quests and exploring the world i am always above my monitor refresh rate
Winter is Coming
Rikke
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany302 Posts
January 12 2012 11:24 GMT
#3762
On January 12 2012 19:42 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 19:36 Rikke wrote:
Nah, PvP isn't really fun. Playing as level50 with/vs Level10s is no fun! And the rewarding system for PvP is total RNG Crap! If you are lucky you get full-pvp-set in 10 bags and if you're unlucky you open 50 bags and only get like 1-2 items.
Right now, I will just finish the class-stories for my Juggernaut&Saboteur and if the Endgame is still that boring I won't pay for another month.

Dude, there is a level 50 bracket AND the non-RNG gear being added this month


I still see no motivation in PvP, the Itemscaling is ridiculous. Illum is dead and a Daily-Quest only zone and the PvE Content ist the most time waste in a long time. If BioWare doesn't put out HUGE changes to the endgame until January 20th, 80% of players will don't touch this game again and it will be like Aion or LotRO.

Leveling was alot of fun but at Maxlevel there is absolutly no conent beside doing boring dailies in PvP or PvE.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10809 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 11:40:48
January 12 2012 11:40 GMT
#3763
On January 12 2012 20:24 Rikke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 19:42 Capped wrote:
On January 12 2012 19:36 Rikke wrote:
Nah, PvP isn't really fun. Playing as level50 with/vs Level10s is no fun! And the rewarding system for PvP is total RNG Crap! If you are lucky you get full-pvp-set in 10 bags and if you're unlucky you open 50 bags and only get like 1-2 items.
Right now, I will just finish the class-stories for my Juggernaut&Saboteur and if the Endgame is still that boring I won't pay for another month.

Dude, there is a level 50 bracket AND the non-RNG gear being added this month


Leveling was alot of fun but at Maxlevel there is absolutly no conent beside doing boring dailies in PvP or PvE.



Sounds like WoW? Except that leveling there is hardly as fun as in Swtor .
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 11:53:24
January 12 2012 11:49 GMT
#3764
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
January 12 2012 12:26 GMT
#3765
On January 12 2012 20:24 Rikke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 19:42 Capped wrote:
On January 12 2012 19:36 Rikke wrote:
Nah, PvP isn't really fun. Playing as level50 with/vs Level10s is no fun! And the rewarding system for PvP is total RNG Crap! If you are lucky you get full-pvp-set in 10 bags and if you're unlucky you open 50 bags and only get like 1-2 items.
Right now, I will just finish the class-stories for my Juggernaut&Saboteur and if the Endgame is still that boring I won't pay for another month.

Dude, there is a level 50 bracket AND the non-RNG gear being added this month


I still see no motivation in PvP, the Itemscaling is ridiculous. Illum is dead and a Daily-Quest only zone and the PvE Content ist the most time waste in a long time. If BioWare doesn't put out HUGE changes to the endgame until January 20th, 80% of players will don't touch this game again and it will be like Aion or LotRO.

Leveling was alot of fun but at Maxlevel there is absolutly no conent beside doing boring dailies in PvP or PvE.


Its exactly like every other MMO out there.

At 50, you do dungeons, raids, pvp and dailies to grind reputation or whatever in either PvE or PvP.

There is all of that in SWTOR.

You just dont like MMO's then?
Useless wet fish.
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
January 12 2012 13:50 GMT
#3766
I think I liked this thread better when Fruscainte was the one trolling it.

This new generation of whippersnappers and their trash talk. Why in our day...
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
January 12 2012 14:51 GMT
#3767
I like how im called troll the moment i dare to call pvp in this game piece of crap.
kleetzor
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany360 Posts
January 12 2012 14:53 GMT
#3768
Quite the shitstorm the official forums have become.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=164481&page=132
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 16:03:29
January 12 2012 15:35 GMT
#3769
On January 12 2012 23:51 Narw wrote:
I like how im called troll the moment i dare to call pvp in this game piece of crap.


You become one when you make posts like that.

Now go away
Useless wet fish.
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
January 12 2012 15:50 GMT
#3770
Retarded valour medal awards system.
Unresponsinves + animation.
Level 10 characters pvping with level 50's.
No ranked matches.
World PvP not existant.
User interface totally not suited for PvP. (actually user interface not suited for anything part leveling)
Severe design problems (Biochem or gtfo will be best example)
Balance problems (those actually can be forgiven couse its relase)

Yes pvp in this game is good couse Capped tells so.

MaGariShun
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria305 Posts
January 12 2012 15:58 GMT
#3771
On January 13 2012 00:50 Narw wrote:
World PvP not existant.

You obviously aren't doing dailies on illum. Not that I like world PVP (or pvp in general), but there is a shitload going on on our server (restoration zone EU DE). Also, as soon as you hit the levels where reps and imps share questing areas there is a lot of ganking - at least more than I'm used from WoW
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
January 12 2012 15:59 GMT
#3772
Mmo enraged nerds fighting !
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 16:05:03
January 12 2012 16:04 GMT
#3773
On January 13 2012 00:59 Boonbag wrote:
Mmo enraged nerds fighting !


Lol :D so true

Useless wet fish.
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 16:09:36
January 12 2012 16:05 GMT
#3774
On January 12 2012 21:26 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 20:24 Rikke wrote:
On January 12 2012 19:42 Capped wrote:
On January 12 2012 19:36 Rikke wrote:
Nah, PvP isn't really fun. Playing as level50 with/vs Level10s is no fun! And the rewarding system for PvP is total RNG Crap! If you are lucky you get full-pvp-set in 10 bags and if you're unlucky you open 50 bags and only get like 1-2 items.
Right now, I will just finish the class-stories for my Juggernaut&Saboteur and if the Endgame is still that boring I won't pay for another month.

Dude, there is a level 50 bracket AND the non-RNG gear being added this month


I still see no motivation in PvP, the Itemscaling is ridiculous. Illum is dead and a Daily-Quest only zone and the PvE Content ist the most time waste in a long time. If BioWare doesn't put out HUGE changes to the endgame until January 20th, 80% of players will don't touch this game again and it will be like Aion or LotRO.

Leveling was alot of fun but at Maxlevel there is absolutly no conent beside doing boring dailies in PvP or PvE.


Its exactly like every other MMO out there.

At 50, you do dungeons, raids, pvp and dailies to grind reputation or whatever in either PvE or PvP.

There is all of that in SWTOR.

You just dont like MMO's then?


Whats a daily quest or a dungeon?

*eve smug*

There's certainly room to be creative in the MMO world, though I wish more people would incorporate successes of games like eve into their dev plans. You know like having a functional economy/crafting system, or at the very least embrace that you made an MMO and stop finding ways of separating players from other players.

/also the post you quoted, is virtually all red squiggles on my screen, an impressive feat.
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
January 12 2012 16:14 GMT
#3775
Yeah this game doesn't seem to have a very vibrant PvP scene, but I think there is potential. It needs time to develop, for sure. I'm just making it my personal mission to kill Republic scum any time I see them, hopefully it encourages growth
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 16:21:48
January 12 2012 16:21 GMT
#3776
On January 13 2012 01:05 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 21:26 Capped wrote:
On January 12 2012 20:24 Rikke wrote:
On January 12 2012 19:42 Capped wrote:
On January 12 2012 19:36 Rikke wrote:
Nah, PvP isn't really fun. Playing as level50 with/vs Level10s is no fun! And the rewarding system for PvP is total RNG Crap! If you are lucky you get full-pvp-set in 10 bags and if you're unlucky you open 50 bags and only get like 1-2 items.
Right now, I will just finish the class-stories for my Juggernaut&Saboteur and if the Endgame is still that boring I won't pay for another month.

Dude, there is a level 50 bracket AND the non-RNG gear being added this month


I still see no motivation in PvP, the Itemscaling is ridiculous. Illum is dead and a Daily-Quest only zone and the PvE Content ist the most time waste in a long time. If BioWare doesn't put out HUGE changes to the endgame until January 20th, 80% of players will don't touch this game again and it will be like Aion or LotRO.

Leveling was alot of fun but at Maxlevel there is absolutly no conent beside doing boring dailies in PvP or PvE.


Its exactly like every other MMO out there.

At 50, you do dungeons, raids, pvp and dailies to grind reputation or whatever in either PvE or PvP.

There is all of that in SWTOR.

You just dont like MMO's then?


Whats a daily quest or a dungeon?

*eve smug*

There's certainly room to be creative in the MMO world, though I wish more people would incorporate successes of games like eve into their dev plans. You know like having a functional economy/crafting system, or at the very least embrace that you made an MMO and stop finding ways of separating players from other players.

/also the post you quoted, is virtually all red squiggles on my screen, an impressive feat.


I'm just gonna go WAAAAY out there and propose this idea (brace yourselves)

Make PvP be important to the entire realm and world you're a part of, not just for your own personal gain to grind valor for better loot.

DAoC did this, they didnt need to add any more raid bosses that are fun just once.

All they did was create a everchanging, dynamic pvp system and zone that was different every single time you played it.

Thats a billion times the content any pve exansion WoW has ever had. My gosh if only mmo devs realized this.
So much money to be saved if the players become the content

I feel really sorry for the new generation mmo players who has only experienced instanced, static and grindy pvp gameplay and use that as their only reference point when arguing over how good the pvp in a game is :I
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
January 12 2012 16:35 GMT
#3777
Make PvP be important to the entire realm and world you're a part of, not just for your own personal gain to grind valor for better loot.

DAoC did this, they didnt need to add any more raid bosses that are fun just once.

All they did was create a everchanging, dynamic pvp system and zone that was different every single time you played it.

Thats a billion times the content any pve exansion WoW has ever had. My gosh if only mmo devs realized this.
So much money to be saved if the players become the content

I feel really sorry for the new generation mmo players who has only experienced instanced, static and grindy pvp gameplay and use that as their only reference point when arguing over how good the pvp in a game is :I


It was that way in Lineage 2 aswell, leveling was constant gank fest connected with fighting with other players over spots. Politics were important, castle lords had impact on what mobs you would grind. From what i heard latest chronicle in L2 turned into total crap tho, since they basicly made player killing forbidden and removed crafting from game.

Closest thing to what you describe currently is EvE i think.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
January 12 2012 16:36 GMT
#3778
Daoc had 3 realms. With only 2 factions every "world changing" pvp system is doomed to fail, because of massive population imbalance. Sure you can buff the outnumbered, or limit the amount of people allowed to enter, but those are just bad design options, which try to cover the underlying fault.

Also I want to whine a bit about the crafting system:
"You already have this schemantic" while reverse engineering is the most disappointing message ever... especially when you consider that no such message shows when learning an already known recipe from a plan (oh and you actually use & lose the plan in those cases^^).
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10809 Posts
January 12 2012 16:39 GMT
#3779
On January 13 2012 01:05 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 21:26 Capped wrote:
On January 12 2012 20:24 Rikke wrote:
On January 12 2012 19:42 Capped wrote:
On January 12 2012 19:36 Rikke wrote:
Nah, PvP isn't really fun. Playing as level50 with/vs Level10s is no fun! And the rewarding system for PvP is total RNG Crap! If you are lucky you get full-pvp-set in 10 bags and if you're unlucky you open 50 bags and only get like 1-2 items.
Right now, I will just finish the class-stories for my Juggernaut&Saboteur and if the Endgame is still that boring I won't pay for another month.

Dude, there is a level 50 bracket AND the non-RNG gear being added this month


I still see no motivation in PvP, the Itemscaling is ridiculous. Illum is dead and a Daily-Quest only zone and the PvE Content ist the most time waste in a long time. If BioWare doesn't put out HUGE changes to the endgame until January 20th, 80% of players will don't touch this game again and it will be like Aion or LotRO.

Leveling was alot of fun but at Maxlevel there is absolutly no conent beside doing boring dailies in PvP or PvE.


Its exactly like every other MMO out there.

At 50, you do dungeons, raids, pvp and dailies to grind reputation or whatever in either PvE or PvP.

There is all of that in SWTOR.

You just dont like MMO's then?


Whats a daily quest or a dungeon?

*eve smug*

There's certainly room to be creative in the MMO world, though I wish more people would incorporate successes of games like eve into their dev plans. You know like having a functional economy/crafting system, or at the very least embrace that you made an MMO and stop finding ways of separating players from other players.

/also the post you quoted, is virtually all red squiggles on my screen, an impressive feat.




The problem is that Eve is also unbelievably boring to many people.
Rikke
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany302 Posts
January 12 2012 16:49 GMT
#3780
On January 12 2012 21:26 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 20:24 Rikke wrote:
On January 12 2012 19:42 Capped wrote:
On January 12 2012 19:36 Rikke wrote:
Nah, PvP isn't really fun. Playing as level50 with/vs Level10s is no fun! And the rewarding system for PvP is total RNG Crap! If you are lucky you get full-pvp-set in 10 bags and if you're unlucky you open 50 bags and only get like 1-2 items.
Right now, I will just finish the class-stories for my Juggernaut&Saboteur and if the Endgame is still that boring I won't pay for another month.

Dude, there is a level 50 bracket AND the non-RNG gear being added this month


I still see no motivation in PvP, the Itemscaling is ridiculous. Illum is dead and a Daily-Quest only zone and the PvE Content ist the most time waste in a long time. If BioWare doesn't put out HUGE changes to the endgame until January 20th, 80% of players will don't touch this game again and it will be like Aion or LotRO.

Leveling was alot of fun but at Maxlevel there is absolutly no conent beside doing boring dailies in PvP or PvE.


At 50, you do dungeons, raids, pvp and dailies to grind reputation or whatever in either PvE or PvP.
There is all of that in SWTOR.

You just dont like MMO's then?


No! WoW had alot of motivation in Vanilla and TBC. SWTOR doesnt have that! There needs to be something to work on at maxlevel! I cleared the bugged heroics, I cleared the bugged operations, I have seen enough of bugged PvP... motivation gone! There is just no point in doing heroics/raids/pvp. The endgame is so bad that you are full-epic after 1 day at maxlevel and heroic-gear = raidgear.
Would be better if you only got Blue Gear in Heroics and Operations had only one Difficulty (=Nightmare). I saw all the Encounters now and no one has the motivation to clear the same operations in Nightmare, when the only difference are the boss hp/dps scaled up. If the game were much harder, there would be content left to motivate for.

And I don't think BioWare will make the game much harder, so WoW has destroyed the MMO Genre for Non-Casuals.

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