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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 15:07:34
July 21 2008 15:07 GMT
#81
Make sure you name Snorlax after Julyzerg.
Or maybe Hariyama.
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
July 21 2008 15:43 GMT
#82
On July 21 2008 22:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
I got blissey w/
Toxic
DoubleTeam
WaterPulse
Softboil

is she any good?


EVs, EVs, EVs, EVs? Nature? Item?

Yes they are that important go to the Advanced Trainers guide in Ruby or the competitive battling guide in Dimanod (both at GameFAQs.com) to learn what they are.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 18:47:40
July 21 2008 18:45 GMT
#83
On July 21 2008 10:01 crazie-penguin wrote:
aren't there also other clauses, like you can't have more than two of the same pokemon in one team, and that you can't put more than one of your opponents pokemon to sleep? Oh, and Uber tier pokemon are usually banned right (for tournaments)? Can someone list all the "standard clauses and rules?

Umm, Item clause (very rare I think) where you can't have same item on two pokemon. Sleep clause (can only put one pokemon to sleep at a time), evasion clause. Umm, think there's a few more, but I only ever play with Sleep, Evasion and OU tier.


Most people go for Cleric blissey:

Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold // Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy
- Thunder Wave / Sing / Ice Beam
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
OMin
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States545 Posts
July 21 2008 18:50 GMT
#84
dude bulbasaur > all, he's #1 for a reason you know (both figuratively and literally on the 150 list )
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
July 21 2008 18:51 GMT
#85
Venusaur's UU tier I think
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
July 21 2008 19:29 GMT
#86
If you like competitive UU (underused) battling, check this site out:
http://www.uustadium.com/
It's just like Smogon, but obviously more focus on UU pokemon.

If you are going through singleplayer, there's no need to worry about EVs anyways. Just pick a balanced team of your favorite pokemon.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 19:32:57
July 21 2008 19:31 GMT
#87
On July 21 2008 23:00 TonyL2 wrote:
Yay TLPD shows that there's over 386 progamer ids. I'm gonna catch and name every single pokemon after a progamer. Except I've done it in lower case, and everyone else's name is in caps :< like PROF. BIRCH, MAY, ZIGZAGOON.


That's what I'm doing! I kinda ran out of ideas really fast though, so I started naming them after like Mondragon and MidiaN >> <<.
On July 22 2008 00:07 Jyvblamo wrote:
Make sure you name Snorlax after Julyzerg.
Or maybe Hariyama.


I named Snorlax after Julyzerg and I named Miltank iNcontroL LOL.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 21 2008 21:11 GMT
#88
On July 20 2008 15:49 GTR-2-Go wrote:
I have uh.

Gardevior with Psychic, Confusion, Double Team (questionable, especially with this moveset) and Impression (Do you mean imprison??
I want to get all but Psychic, what are some good moves

My leet Castform with Blizzard, Fire Blast, Thunder and Weather Ball (LOL). Need to replace Weather Ball with something uber, does Hyper Beam work?
(Im not sure with a fairly low sp.atk that I would be using castform as a multitype sweeper. Blizzard is only 70% acc, which is super annoying when the move only has 5pp - I prefer ice beam myself which still has 95pwr and 100%. Even if you wanted that, why not stick that on your water type? You dont need back up sweepers. Same thing for fireblast and thunder, which again has horrible accuracy without rain dance)

Alakazam with Flash, Confusion, Psychic, Psybeam. Getting rid of it as soon as I get a good fire Pokemon (where are the starteeers).
(Oh god. This entire moveset is wow. 3 psychic attacks of various powers and the most useless HM flash. You only need psychic. have the others (too late now unless you want to waste heart scales) be calm mind (not safe in competitive, but the lack of hp wont hurt you too much in game) or recover or something, but 3 psychic moves is overkill)

Swellow with Aerial Ace, Fly, Steel Wing, Quick Attack.
(not a fan of swellow, and you gyrados means you have two flying pokemon weak to elec. This moveset isnt too bad, although you still have the two flying moves)

Gyrados with Surf, Dragon Dance, Hydro Pump and Hyper Beam.
(this moveset is ok, but generally with water types you want a water attack and an ice attack. Dragon dance raises you speed and attack. Unfortunately the attack boost only helps your hyper beam, so keep that in mind. Gyrados is also 4x vs elec which is scary. but its stats are really high, so its up to you)

aaand Sceptile with Cut, Rock Smash, False Swipe and Leaf Blade. What a shit Pokemon.


your movesets are kinda weak

I fully agree with shallow's choices though
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 21 2008 21:17 GMT
#89
On July 22 2008 03:45 tulleh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 10:01 crazie-penguin wrote:
aren't there also other clauses, like you can't have more than two of the same pokemon in one team, and that you can't put more than one of your opponents pokemon to sleep? Oh, and Uber tier pokemon are usually banned right (for tournaments)? Can someone list all the "standard clauses and rules?

Umm, Item clause (very rare I think) where you can't have same item on two pokemon. Sleep clause (can only put one pokemon to sleep at a time), evasion clause. Umm, think there's a few more, but I only ever play with Sleep, Evasion and OU tier.


Most people go for Cleric blissey:

Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold // Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy
- Thunder Wave / Sing / Ice Beam



there is also freeze clause (only one pokemon can be freezed at a time), uber clause, double team/evasion clause, sleep clause etc

it depends on the bot/tournament which clauses are in effect
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
July 21 2008 21:31 GMT
#90
On July 21 2008 13:26 tracer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 06:51 Atrioc wrote:
On July 21 2008 02:04 tracer wrote:
On July 21 2008 01:19 Atrioc wrote:
poor noob already said it, but yes go to www.smogon.com and test your teams out on shoddy battle because EV training them and such on diamond and pearl is a huge hell so you need to have it planned out before hand.



I hear Pokesav works wonders. You know, for those of us too weak to handle cruelties of the Pokemon world.


yeah i've traded for some pokesav pokemon (for example a Blissey with seismic toss, since I dont have emerald and Blissey is almost 100% required for tournament play), but since I would have to pay $40 to get an actionreplay in order to use pokesav, i just train most of my guys up manually. With the EV-boosting items it doesnt take very long.


Let me know if you need anything. R4 + Pokesav = time-saver.


not immediately cuz im still working out the moveset i want for my team but it would be really fucking nice to get ahold of a properly EV'd and nature'd Cresselia for walling.
Writerman what
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 21:38:12
July 21 2008 21:37 GMT
#91
Those of you playing Pokemon Emerald 386, let's see your Trainer Cards!~
Mine:
[image loading]

and
[image loading]
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
July 21 2008 23:05 GMT
#92
On July 22 2008 04:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
That's what I'm doing! I kinda ran out of ideas really fast though, so I started naming them after like Mondragon and MidiaN >> <<.


Just use http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/#tblt-114-6-4-DESC :D

Obviously you didn't think of progamer IDs such as GyunTae[GSP], GGMAN, Flying, Fire or herb, etc etc.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3346 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 23:37:16
July 21 2008 23:37 GMT
#93
On July 22 2008 06:37 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Those of you playing Pokemon Emerald 386, let's see your Trainer Cards!~
Mine:
[image loading]

and
[image loading]


Nice 217 Pokemon. I wanna get all 386.
김택용 Fighting!
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 21 2008 23:48 GMT
#94
Here's something for the really lazy people (myself included).

http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/OfflineProgram/Download.aspx

It contains a full pokedex and a bunch of charts and other resources. More importantly, it comes with this nice utility called "Ciro's Pokemon Maker," which generates codes to create a pokemon in your box. It's great for those who want to play in battle frontier don't want to spend 13289732782 hours legally creating a perfect team.

It's also worth noting, that you can create illegal pokemon with it. You go past the 510 EV limit and max them out in ALL stats, give any pokemon any move, and even make a Slaking without the truant ability. Check it out!
tracer
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)693 Posts
July 22 2008 06:12 GMT
#95
On July 22 2008 06:31 Atrioc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 13:26 tracer wrote:
On July 21 2008 06:51 Atrioc wrote:
On July 21 2008 02:04 tracer wrote:
On July 21 2008 01:19 Atrioc wrote:
poor noob already said it, but yes go to www.smogon.com and test your teams out on shoddy battle because EV training them and such on diamond and pearl is a huge hell so you need to have it planned out before hand.



I hear Pokesav works wonders. You know, for those of us too weak to handle cruelties of the Pokemon world.


yeah i've traded for some pokesav pokemon (for example a Blissey with seismic toss, since I dont have emerald and Blissey is almost 100% required for tournament play), but since I would have to pay $40 to get an actionreplay in order to use pokesav, i just train most of my guys up manually. With the EV-boosting items it doesnt take very long.


Let me know if you need anything. R4 + Pokesav = time-saver.


not immediately cuz im still working out the moveset i want for my team but it would be really fucking nice to get ahold of a properly EV'd and nature'd Cresselia for walling.


Give me the moveset/nature/EVs and it's yours.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17038 Posts
July 22 2008 06:12 GMT
#96
On July 22 2008 00:43 wswordsmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 22:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
I got blissey w/
Toxic
DoubleTeam
WaterPulse
Softboil

is she any good?


EVs, EVs, EVs, EVs? Nature? Item?

Yes they are that important go to the Advanced Trainers guide in Ruby or the competitive battling guide in Dimanod (both at GameFAQs.com) to learn what they are.


Standard R/S Blisseys are Bold with Aromatherapy, Softboiled, Seismic Toss and TWave. Some Blisseys use Ice Beam. If you're a total asshole and use Heal Bell Celebi along with a Blissey, you can use whatever move out of Ice Beam/Toxic/TWave instead of Aromatherapy. You can (attempt to) use Calm Mind Blissey. It fails. If you're feeling cute you can use Counter. I wouldn't recommend it.

You'll want a 252 Def EV Bold Blissey to remotely be useful against anything with a physical attack. Rest of the EVs are up to you.

Also, does anyone else here miss netbattle? I really hate shoddy only because of its GUI and it's honestly the only reason I don't get into competitive D/P battling.
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 22 2008 06:28 GMT
#97
I played shoddy once and my team failed to load LOL

I actually have the game pearl so I just play on wifi. Netbattle was pretty fun too.
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
July 22 2008 09:58 GMT
#98
My current team, about to fight the 1st gym leader:

[image loading]


P.S My character is called Bisu
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
July 22 2008 11:20 GMT
#99
My current Pokemons (Pokemon Emerald)
Swampert Lvl. 60, Migthyena Lvl. 25, Swellow Lvl. 40, Hariyama Lvl 31, Azumaril Lvl. 53, Torkoal Lvl 31, Sandshew Lvl. 38 , Seviper Lvl. 22, Castform Lvl. 27, Kecleon Lvl. 32, Wobbuffet Lvl. 30, Xatu Lvl. 29, Girafarig Lvl. 25, Rhyhorn Lvl. 27, Sealeo Lvl 37, Clamperl Lvl 24

My Current Team:
Swellow
Hariyama
Torkoal
Seleo
Azumaril
Clamperl
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
XtaC_hiryu
Profile Joined November 2004
Philippines125 Posts
July 22 2008 12:13 GMT
#100
So I have 5 pokemon with pick-up ability in my current team and my starter is having a bad time lol.
potato and cheese ftw!
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