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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
July 20 2008 06:34 GMT
#1
Because blogs suck!

Discuss here instead of blogs.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 06:36 GMT
#2
Can do.

You were asking why I don't have a flying type? I don't think I need one.

I have

Fire, Water, Psychic (who has sick Thunderbolt skills), Normal, Fighting, Steel/Rock.
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ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 20 2008 06:40 GMT
#3
Why normal?

I hate normals, lol.
What do you use to kill annoying things like Marshtomp?
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 06:42 GMT
#4
My Aggron has Solarbeam LOL
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ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 20 2008 06:45 GMT
#5
LOL overkill. Weakness to water though :p. What if you get hydro'd while you take in sunlight? Though you'll prolly survive that, since he's a fatty.

Though 4x weakness to ground O_O. Earthquake?
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 06:48 GMT
#6
Yeah he gets Earthquaked a lot >> <<

I have

Typhlosion
Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Sunny Day, Aerial Ace

Gardevoir
Psychic, Psych Up (finally replaced Confusion thank god), Thunderbolt, Calm Mind (best move ever?)

Aggron
Double-Edge (no recoil kickass), Iron Tail, Earthquake, Solarbeam

Slaking
Slash, Counter, Thunder, Shadow Ball

Blastoise
Surf, Ice Beam, Toxic, Iron Tail (could replace Iron Tail with Brick Break maybe)

Hariyama
Belly Drum, Brick Break, Dynamicpunch, Strength
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
July 20 2008 06:49 GMT
#7
I have uh.

Gardevior with Psychic, Confusion, Double Team and Impression
I want to get all but Psychic, what are some good moves

My leet Castform with Blizzard, Fire Blast, Thunder and Weather Ball (LOL). Need to replace Weather Ball with something uber, does Hyper Beam work?

Alakazam with Flash, Confusion, Psychic, Psybeam. Getting rid of it as soon as I get a good fire Pokemon (where are the starteeers).

Swellow with Aerial Ace, Fly, Steel Wing, Quick Attack.

Gyrados with Surf, Dragon Dance, Hydro Pump and Hyper Beam.

aaand Sceptile with Cut, Rock Smash, False Swipe and Leaf Blade. What a shit Pokemon.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 06:52 GMT
#8
Yeah Sceptile sounds a bit weak

Your Castform makes me wet myself; I'd recommend Blaziken for your Fire Pokemon probably, there are Torchics in the Altering Cave on Route..115 maybe? The one to the left of the Trick House.

I seriously recommend you get something a bit more reliable for your Ice needs; 50% of the Elite Four are weak against Ice :p (ok, made up number, but still)
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 20 2008 07:19 GMT
#9
right now im playing on GBA, training metagross to 100 so he can fight in the battle tower

right now lvl 77 with earthquake, meteor mash, rest, agility i think
HEY MEYT
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 20 2008 07:22 GMT
#10
do you battle steven in meteor falls in emerald? must have really high level pokemon, on GBA they are all like 75
HEY MEYT
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 07:24 GMT
#11
On July 20 2008 16:22 JohnColtrane wrote:
do you battle steven in meteor falls in emerald? must have really high level pokemon, on GBA they are all like 75


Yeah you do, I went and found him to see what sort of shit I was in for; all of his shit is level 100 in Emerald 386, fuck.

The Battle Tower in Emerald is easy for me, I just play Open Level and kill everything with Gardevoir.
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 20 2008 07:27 GMT
#12
Does anyone have diamond/pearl here? I'd like to play them :X
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 20 2008 07:35 GMT
#13
On July 20 2008 15:40 ydg wrote:
Why normal?

I hate normals, lol.
What do you use to kill annoying things like Marshtomp?

grass
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 20 2008 07:37 GMT
#14
Fucking Diamond/Pearl is gay. So hard to find a good fire type Pokemon if you don't choose the fire-type starter.
God Bless
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 20 2008 07:37 GMT
#15
On July 20 2008 15:52 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Yeah Sceptile sounds a bit weak

Your Castform makes me wet myself; I'd recommend Blaziken for your Fire Pokemon probably, there are Torchics in the Altering Cave on Route..115 maybe? The one to the left of the Trick House.

I seriously recommend you get something a bit more reliable for your Ice needs; 50% of the Elite Four are weak against Ice :p (ok, made up number, but still)

and combustichicks on route 121
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 07:40 GMT
#16
On July 20 2008 16:37 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2008 15:52 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Yeah Sceptile sounds a bit weak

Your Castform makes me wet myself; I'd recommend Blaziken for your Fire Pokemon probably, there are Torchics in the Altering Cave on Route..115 maybe? The one to the left of the Trick House.

I seriously recommend you get something a bit more reliable for your Ice needs; 50% of the Elite Four are weak against Ice :p (ok, made up number, but still)

and combustichicks on route 121


Yeah it's so sick how if you don't want the starter you can get its second form on route 121
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 07:46:38
July 20 2008 07:46 GMT
#17
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Poll: Best Pokemon Games?
(Vote): Generation I : Red/Blue/Yellow
(Vote): Generation II : Gold/Silver/Crystal
(Vote): Generation III : Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
(Vote): Generation IV : Diamond/Pearl
(Vote): Other : Stadium, TCG, etc.

My vote goes towards Crystal; easily the best Pokemon game, both due to the influx of new features and its general kickassery.
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Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 07:51:03
July 20 2008 07:49 GMT
#18
I LUVS POGEYMANS

On July 20 2008 16:37 Roffles wrote:
Fucking Diamond/Pearl is gay. So hard to find a good fire type Pokemon if you don't choose the fire-type starter.


I got a Ponyta early on I think. Put flamethrower on it = FTW

My 'Hall of Fame' team (if I remember correctly) was:
Luxray, Staraptor, Azelf, Rapidash, Empoleon, and Graveler.
Then I just made my dream team (with perfect EVs and IVs) with Pokesav

By the way, I loved the R/S/E generation. It was awesome. I especially liked the Red/Blue remakes FR and LG.
Diamond and Pearl had the huge "Physical/Special" attack revamp that confused me a lot.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 07:56:52
July 20 2008 07:54 GMT
#19
i have so many good memories with RBY playing it when i was a kid, but id have to say so far generation III is my favourite what with the abilities and natures and cool new moves and pokemon and such

the physical special thing used to be based on the type of the move (ie fire attacks are all special, pre gen 4)

now its each individual move has its own type, like flamethrower stays special but fire punch (which was special before diamond/pearl) is a physical move now because its a punch i guess.

anyone gonna get the new platinum game? i think itll be like the Emerald of the RSE series

BTW does anyone have a link for a DS emulator and pearl / diamond rom? all the ones ive tried so far have fucked up on me
HEY MEYT
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
July 20 2008 07:58 GMT
#20
Gen 2, two regions to play in > one only
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 08:23:06
July 20 2008 08:19 GMT
#21
The only reason and good one to play diamond/pearl is because of wifi, you can finally play each other without having to use the gay link thing. Also, all of your pokemon are auto lvl 100 when playing on wifi so training doesn't really matter.

Also, because of wifi, you can trade much easier, like if you had diamond/pearl with you I can get you like anything, even event exclusive stuff like jirachi and celebi.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
July 20 2008 08:23 GMT
#22
are you sure you can find torchic on route 204? cant find one, only spinaraks, ladbyas etc.

and same with combusken...
Commentator
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 08:25:34
July 20 2008 08:25 GMT
#23
204, wtf no. Look in the cave on Route 103.

(for Torchic)

Combusken is in the grass south of Mt. Pyre
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
July 20 2008 08:26 GMT
#24
do you guys have the list or something?

i have a fake one i think.
Commentator
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 20 2008 08:27 GMT
#25
On July 20 2008 17:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
204, wtf no. Look in the cave on Route 103.

(for Torchic)

Combusken is in the grass south of Mt. Pyre

w/ its good buddy ivysaurs and watertoils n w/e
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tracer
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)693 Posts
July 20 2008 08:47 GMT
#26
Once you play D/P, it's really difficult to play RSE...
The physical/special attack division is such an integral element. I can't get used to moves like Dragon Claw or Thunderpunch being based on speecial attack.
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 20 2008 08:49 GMT
#27
I think the physical/special split made dragons way too powerful :X But I guess it does make some pokemon usable xD
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
July 20 2008 09:03 GMT
#28
I liked GSC since you get to play in two regions
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 20 2008 09:27 GMT
#29
Yes I loved GSC as well =D my silver still works too ^^

There is speculation that gamefreak are recreating gsc like they did with red and blue, but for sure platinum is coming out :X
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 20 2008 09:34 GMT
#30
On July 20 2008 18:03 imDerek wrote:
I liked GSC since you get to play in two regions

yeah even though those 2 combined is probably smaller than that 1 in emerald, the fact that u GET TO travel to a different land is exciting.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 09:37:58
July 20 2008 09:37 GMT
#31
i felt ripped off when i went to viridian forest in GSC...it wasnt even a seperate route it was just a bunch of walls

they really were light when recreating kanto in generation II, i dont even think there was a mewtwo cave
HEY MEYT
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
July 20 2008 10:03 GMT
#32
[image loading]


i'd totally wear that articuno shirt
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
July 20 2008 10:06 GMT
#33
The Mju shirt is kickass
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 20 2008 10:20 GMT
#34
if I get a shuckle shirt, w/ caption
"wtf is going on?!"
i'd be so happy
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TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
July 20 2008 14:56 GMT
#35
Yes I just got the Emerald 386 to work on my PSP

Except the emulator on it won't let me speed up the game...I'm gonna need a lot of patience

But heck I'm a level grinder by nature
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 15:34:05
July 20 2008 15:25 GMT
#36
your teams are terrible, learn how to really play pokemon here:
http://www.smogon.com

and play here:
http://shoddybattle.com/
How do you mine minerals?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 20 2008 15:58 GMT
#37
On July 20 2008 17:49 Umbrella wrote:
I think the physical/special split made dragons way too powerful :X But I guess it does make some pokemon usable xD


Dragon pokemon didn't really become overpowered since Gen 3. In RBYGSC, 1 good Ice Beam would completely destroy a fully evolved Dragon.
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tracer
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)693 Posts
July 20 2008 16:18 GMT
#38
On July 21 2008 00:58 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2008 17:49 Umbrella wrote:
I think the physical/special split made dragons way too powerful :X But I guess it does make some pokemon usable xD


Dragon pokemon didn't really become overpowered since Gen 3. In RBYGSC, 1 good Ice Beam would completely destroy a fully evolved Dragon.


A good ice beam (good meaning from a pokemon with a half-decent SpAtt stat) still kills any fully evolved dragon. Yache Berry counters that by reducing super effective ice damage by 50% but other than that, there's no way the overused dragons (Salamence, Garchomp, even Dragonite) could survive one of those concentrated ice blasts due to their unfortunate typing (either Dragon/Flying or Dragon/Ground), which makes them four times susceptible to frostbite.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
July 20 2008 16:19 GMT
#39
lol
its usuallly not something you talk about or admit

but in a pokemon thread i guess its the best place

i have a world class pokemon diamond and pearl team that has competed/won tournaments
so yes, i do date supermodels


poor noob already said it, but yes go to www.smogon.com and test your teams out on shoddy battle because EV training them and such on diamond and pearl is a huge hell so you need to have it planned out before hand.

Writerman what
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
July 20 2008 16:43 GMT
#40
I remember when I got my GameBoy Color and my Pokemon Blue Version (the one that had Blastoise on the cover)

Oh, those were the fun days, sleepless nights to play the mighty game. I remember when I got Pikachu version, the one where you had pikachu running with you all around.

I got bored after they introduced like a gazillion new characters to the anime. So fucking stupid~
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
July 20 2008 16:50 GMT
#41
G/S/C was easily best.
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tracer
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)693 Posts
July 20 2008 17:04 GMT
#42
On July 21 2008 01:19 Atrioc wrote:
poor noob already said it, but yes go to www.smogon.com and test your teams out on shoddy battle because EV training them and such on diamond and pearl is a huge hell so you need to have it planned out before hand.



I hear Pokesav works wonders. You know, for those of us too weak to handle cruelties of the Pokemon world.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
July 20 2008 17:05 GMT
#43
To be really honest, I haven't played any of the GBA versions of pokemon
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TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 17:35 GMT
#44
I started playing Emerald 386, and I find it to be lots of fun - the added pokemon are done well, and the higher leveled trainers make the game more interesting.

However, I cannot seem to find a good list of what is where. The list I am using can be found here:

http://www.freewebs.com/bikdiponabus/Emerald 386 locations.txt

This seems to be quite erroneous. For example, with Tyrogue it says that you get one by breeding one of its evolutions with a ditto. However, I found it in the cave on Dewford Town. Magby/Elekid/clefa-whatever are also supposed to be available only through breeding, but they are all in the Whismur cave. Bulbasaur seems to be nowhere to be found in Petalburg woods.

Is there something I am missing, or is there a much better list somewhere out there?
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ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
July 20 2008 18:08 GMT
#45
I > Locked in adv NU 2ez.

Unfortunately Neo > me in adv NU >_<
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 20 2008 19:24 GMT
#46
Where can I get a Relicanth? I've been searching the bottoms of Sootopolis for like, ten minutes and all I find are Poliwhirls and the occasional Chinchou and Clamperl
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 20:00:09
July 20 2008 19:59 GMT
#47
On July 21 2008 02:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
I started playing Emerald 386, and I find it to be lots of fun - the added pokemon are done well, and the higher leveled trainers make the game more interesting.

However, I cannot seem to find a good list of what is where. The list I am using can be found here:

http://www.freewebs.com/bikdiponabus/Emerald 386 locations.txt

This seems to be quite erroneous. For example, with Tyrogue it says that you get one by breeding one of its evolutions with a ditto. However, I found it in the cave on Dewford Town. Magby/Elekid/clefa-whatever are also supposed to be available only through breeding, but they are all in the Whismur cave. Bulbasaur seems to be nowhere to be found in Petalburg woods.

Is there something I am missing, or is there a much better list somewhere out there?


This is the list I'm using, and yeah it is a bit out of wack. If you want to know where something is, ask me; I've probably seen it :p

@poor noob, I really don't intend to engage in serious competition, I just want to enjoy myself playing the single player. Sure I could make a sick Skarmbliss lineup filled with sweepers but I'd rather not..someone else equated it to playing 3v3 BGH rather than iCCup One on One.

On July 21 2008 04:24 ydg wrote:
Where can I get a Relicanth? I've been searching the bottoms of Sootopolis for like, ten minutes and all I find are Poliwhirls and the occasional Chinchou and Clamperl


Look in the underwater grass around where Team Aqua's underwater lair was, where they parked the stolen submarine.
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 20 2008 20:00 GMT
#48
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.

I personally think EV training is not that time-consuming :X but IV breeding certainly is.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
July 20 2008 20:04 GMT
#49
Yeah, i remember playing this stuff, like 8 years ago....
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TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 20:29 GMT
#50
On July 21 2008 04:59 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 02:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
I started playing Emerald 386, and I find it to be lots of fun - the added pokemon are done well, and the higher leveled trainers make the game more interesting.

However, I cannot seem to find a good list of what is where. The list I am using can be found here:

http://www.freewebs.com/bikdiponabus/Emerald 386 locations.txt

This seems to be quite erroneous. For example, with Tyrogue it says that you get one by breeding one of its evolutions with a ditto. However, I found it in the cave on Dewford Town. Magby/Elekid/clefa-whatever are also supposed to be available only through breeding, but they are all in the Whismur cave. Bulbasaur seems to be nowhere to be found in Petalburg woods.

Is there something I am missing, or is there a much better list somewhere out there?


This is the list I'm using, and yeah it is a bit out of wack. If you want to know where something is, ask me; I've probably seen it :p




Thanks for the response/offer.

I do have a few questions - where are the 9 starters? I could never actually find Bulbasaur in the petalburg woods, so I am suspecting the others of being erroneous as well.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 20:31 GMT
#51
On July 21 2008 05:29 TarsTarkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 04:59 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On July 21 2008 02:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
I started playing Emerald 386, and I find it to be lots of fun - the added pokemon are done well, and the higher leveled trainers make the game more interesting.

However, I cannot seem to find a good list of what is where. The list I am using can be found here:

http://www.freewebs.com/bikdiponabus/Emerald 386 locations.txt

This seems to be quite erroneous. For example, with Tyrogue it says that you get one by breeding one of its evolutions with a ditto. However, I found it in the cave on Dewford Town. Magby/Elekid/clefa-whatever are also supposed to be available only through breeding, but they are all in the Whismur cave. Bulbasaur seems to be nowhere to be found in Petalburg woods.

Is there something I am missing, or is there a much better list somewhere out there?


This is the list I'm using, and yeah it is a bit out of wack. If you want to know where something is, ask me; I've probably seen it :p




Thanks for the response/offer.

I do have a few questions - where are the 9 starters? I could never actually find Bulbasaur in the petalburg woods, so I am suspecting the others of being erroneous as well.


All 9 starters are in the Altering Cave.

Go North from Slateport until you hit the Trick House; from there, head West until you find a cave. It's on Route 103 I believe.

He's not in Petalburg woods :p
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TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 20:35 GMT
#52
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.
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TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 20:36 GMT
#53
On July 21 2008 05:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 05:29 TarsTarkas wrote:
On July 21 2008 04:59 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On July 21 2008 02:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
I started playing Emerald 386, and I find it to be lots of fun - the added pokemon are done well, and the higher leveled trainers make the game more interesting.

However, I cannot seem to find a good list of what is where. The list I am using can be found here:

http://www.freewebs.com/bikdiponabus/Emerald 386 locations.txt

This seems to be quite erroneous. For example, with Tyrogue it says that you get one by breeding one of its evolutions with a ditto. However, I found it in the cave on Dewford Town. Magby/Elekid/clefa-whatever are also supposed to be available only through breeding, but they are all in the Whismur cave. Bulbasaur seems to be nowhere to be found in Petalburg woods.

Is there something I am missing, or is there a much better list somewhere out there?


This is the list I'm using, and yeah it is a bit out of wack. If you want to know where something is, ask me; I've probably seen it :p




Thanks for the response/offer.

I do have a few questions - where are the 9 starters? I could never actually find Bulbasaur in the petalburg woods, so I am suspecting the others of being erroneous as well.


All 9 starters are in the Altering Cave.

Go North from Slateport until you hit the Trick House; from there, head West until you find a cave. It's on Route 103 I believe.

He's not in Petalburg woods :p


Awesome, thanks ShaLLoW[baY]
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SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
July 20 2008 20:36 GMT
#54
Which version do you play right now? I guess I feel old since I never played shit but the Original Pokemon, not to mention ran home from school at fucking breakneck speed every fucking day. Shools out at 3:15 pokemons on at 3:30 and its a mile to my house, you do the math. I come up with one 10 year old running really really really fucking fast.

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Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 20:51:48
July 20 2008 20:50 GMT
#55
On July 21 2008 02:04 tracer wrote:
I hear Pokesav works wonders. You know, for those of us too weak to handle cruelties of the Pokemon world.


Pokesav is awesome.
I can't stand doing EV training. IV breeding is even worse.

On July 21 2008 00:25 poor newb wrote:
your teams are terrible, learn how to really play pokemon here:
http://www.smogon.com


It's hard have a 'good' team (with good movesets) just playing through the singleplayer, because of restricting things like HMs, or hard to find pokemon that could do a better job.
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 20 2008 21:18 GMT
#56
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Well they are much harder to counter now :X they were much easier since they had no real good stab but now that they have physical dragon stab, it's much harder to switch in. Your cloyster example is good but not many pokemon can switch in anymore.

How would you switch in alakazam or gengar on a dragon? Or why would they switch a dragon in on alakazam or gengar? <_< I hope you mean hidden power ice since ice punch is physical now. And even if you manage to switch in them, it would be pretty obvious you had an ice move since you switched in on a dragon.

In ruby/sapphire they couldn't 2HKO many things but now they can.

ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 21:21 GMT
#57
On July 21 2008 06:18 Umbrella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Well they are much harder to counter now :X they were much easier since they had no real good stab but now that they have physical dragon stab, it's much harder to switch in. Your cloyster example is good but not many pokemon can switch in anymore.

How would you switch in alakazam or gengar on a dragon? Or why would they switch a dragon in on alakazam or gengar? <_< I hope you mean hidden power ice since ice punch is physical now. And even if you manage to switch in them, it would be pretty obvious you had an ice move since you switched in on a dragon.

In ruby/sapphire they couldn't 2HKO many things but now they can.



Man, wouldn't you be pissed if I randomly switched in a Pinsir and Guillotined your Dragonite :p
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TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 21:24 GMT
#58
On July 21 2008 06:18 Umbrella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Well they are much harder to counter now :X they were much easier since they had no real good stab but now that they have physical dragon stab, it's much harder to switch in. Your cloyster example is good but not many pokemon can switch in anymore.

How would you switch in alakazam or gengar on a dragon? Or why would they switch a dragon in on alakazam or gengar? <_< I hope you mean hidden power ice since ice punch is physical now. And even if you manage to switch in them, it would be pretty obvious you had an ice move since you switched in on a dragon.

In ruby/sapphire they couldn't 2HKO many things but now they can.



Ok, I didn't understand about the physical/special re-ordering. The fact that they now have good STAB moves makes this much more tricky, you are right. I know nothing about the new games, so I was speaking from an Emerald standpoint.

On July 21 2008 06:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 06:18 Umbrella wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Well they are much harder to counter now :X they were much easier since they had no real good stab but now that they have physical dragon stab, it's much harder to switch in. Your cloyster example is good but not many pokemon can switch in anymore.

How would you switch in alakazam or gengar on a dragon? Or why would they switch a dragon in on alakazam or gengar? <_< I hope you mean hidden power ice since ice punch is physical now. And even if you manage to switch in them, it would be pretty obvious you had an ice move since you switched in on a dragon.

In ruby/sapphire they couldn't 2HKO many things but now they can.



Man, wouldn't you be pissed if I randomly switched in a Pinsir and Guillotined your Dragonite :p


That would be beyond hilarious! :p
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ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 20 2008 21:44 GMT
#59
I finally got a relicanth!

ugh Regice is a little bitch. I got him down to 1 hp (because i kept killing him and save stating and it left him with 1) and i used 50 timer balls on him and he still refuses to be caught. And now he's struggling...so I resort to the boring savestate way of catching . I shoulda hypnosised him.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
July 20 2008 21:44 GMT
#60
Is an Articuno with Mind Reader and Sheer Cold really imba?
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 21:47 GMT
#61
On July 21 2008 06:44 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Is an Articuno with Mind Reader and Sheer Cold really imba?


Slightly, yes :p

One of the best combinations I saw was an Arcanine with a White Herb as its item. White Herb restores lost stats, so the Arcanine can get off two fully powered Overheats. I thought that was a good idea

There's also the ever effective Rest + Chesto Berry.
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Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
July 20 2008 21:51 GMT
#62
On July 21 2008 02:04 tracer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 01:19 Atrioc wrote:
poor noob already said it, but yes go to www.smogon.com and test your teams out on shoddy battle because EV training them and such on diamond and pearl is a huge hell so you need to have it planned out before hand.



I hear Pokesav works wonders. You know, for those of us too weak to handle cruelties of the Pokemon world.


yeah i've traded for some pokesav pokemon (for example a Blissey with seismic toss, since I dont have emerald and Blissey is almost 100% required for tournament play), but since I would have to pay $40 to get an actionreplay in order to use pokesav, i just train most of my guys up manually. With the EV-boosting items it doesnt take very long.
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
July 20 2008 22:14 GMT
#63
Man, with all this hardcore pokemon talk I feel like a complete newb. I've never actually played Pokemon other than on an emulator or EV trained or any of that stuff.
But kudos for the tips.

On a completely different note, is it just me or does Kingdra kick total ass with no weaknesses?
TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 22:27 GMT
#64
Kingdra has a very limited move pool, but it is an awesome pokemon - one of my favorites.

Can be kinda hard to use really effectively though.
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Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 22:49:38
July 20 2008 22:49 GMT
#65
rain dance kingdra with swift swim is pretty fucking good if you can build a team around it

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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 23:04:50
July 20 2008 23:04 GMT
#66
On July 21 2008 06:44 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Is an Articuno with Mind Reader and Sheer Cold really imba?

Most people play with OHKO clauses

I like resttalk pokemon though, trying to train up a Resttalk garchomp
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obloquy
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States265 Posts
July 20 2008 23:26 GMT
#67
On July 21 2008 07:14 Jyvblamo wrote:
Man, with all this hardcore pokemon talk I feel like a complete newb. I've never actually played Pokemon other than on an emulator or EV trained or any of that stuff.
But kudos for the tips.

On a completely different note, is it just me or does Kingdra kick total ass with no weaknesses?


You aren't the only one that feels like a newb. I didn't know hardly anything about the games until I started playing emerald 386. I didn't know the game was this deep. I'm pretty impressed.
That was an unknown unknown.
TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 23:35 GMT
#68
ShallowBay, I have another question: In Emerald 386, is our list actually right when it says that Kadabra/Haunter/Graveler/Machoke evolve into their respective evolutions through leveling up?
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 23:49 GMT
#69
On July 21 2008 08:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
ShallowBay, I have another question: In Emerald 386, is our list actually right when it says that Kadabra/Haunter/Graveler/Machoke evolve into their respective evolutions through leveling up?


In all honesty I'm not sure. I just leveled my Graveler to 35 to check and it didn't evolve, but it might just evolve at a different level, or with the help of a Stone.
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
July 20 2008 23:59 GMT
#70
My Kadabra evolved into Alakazam at level 40, so at least that pokemon can evolve in 386.
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
July 21 2008 01:01 GMT
#71
On July 21 2008 08:04 tulleh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 06:44 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Is an Articuno with Mind Reader and Sheer Cold really imba?

Most people play with OHKO clauses

I like resttalk pokemon though, trying to train up a Resttalk garchomp

aren't there also other clauses, like you can't have more than two of the same pokemon in one team, and that you can't put more than one of your opponents pokemon to sleep? Oh, and Uber tier pokemon are usually banned right (for tournaments)? Can someone list all the "standard clauses and rules?
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
July 21 2008 01:20 GMT
#72
On July 21 2008 10:01 crazie-penguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 08:04 tulleh wrote:
On July 21 2008 06:44 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Is an Articuno with Mind Reader and Sheer Cold really imba?

Most people play with OHKO clauses

I like resttalk pokemon though, trying to train up a Resttalk garchomp

aren't there also other clauses, like you can't have more than two of the same pokemon in one team, and that you can't put more than one of your opponents pokemon to sleep? Oh, and Uber tier pokemon are usually banned right (for tournaments)? Can someone list all the "standard clauses and rules?


Well, you do have "tiers" over on Smogon. One of the tiers is "ubers."
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 21 2008 02:10 GMT
#73
On July 21 2008 06:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 06:18 Umbrella wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Well they are much harder to counter now :X they were much easier since they had no real good stab but now that they have physical dragon stab, it's much harder to switch in. Your cloyster example is good but not many pokemon can switch in anymore.

How would you switch in alakazam or gengar on a dragon? Or why would they switch a dragon in on alakazam or gengar? <_< I hope you mean hidden power ice since ice punch is physical now. And even if you manage to switch in them, it would be pretty obvious you had an ice move since you switched in on a dragon.

In ruby/sapphire they couldn't 2HKO many things but now they can.



Man, wouldn't you be pissed if I randomly switched in a Pinsir and Guillotined your Dragonite :p


I hope you aren't serious. I was referring to garchomp but dragonite can OHKO pinsir with outrage so I would not switch in to one.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 21 2008 02:30 GMT
#74
On July 21 2008 11:10 Umbrella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 06:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On July 21 2008 06:18 Umbrella wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Well they are much harder to counter now :X they were much easier since they had no real good stab but now that they have physical dragon stab, it's much harder to switch in. Your cloyster example is good but not many pokemon can switch in anymore.

How would you switch in alakazam or gengar on a dragon? Or why would they switch a dragon in on alakazam or gengar? <_< I hope you mean hidden power ice since ice punch is physical now. And even if you manage to switch in them, it would be pretty obvious you had an ice move since you switched in on a dragon.

In ruby/sapphire they couldn't 2HKO many things but now they can.



Man, wouldn't you be pissed if I randomly switched in a Pinsir and Guillotined your Dragonite :p


I hope you aren't serious. I was referring to garchomp but dragonite can OHKO pinsir with outrage so I would not switch in to one.


Pinsir is very serious business, I just couldn't think of anything else off the top of my head that can use Guillotine.
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tracer
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)693 Posts
July 21 2008 04:04 GMT
#75
On July 21 2008 06:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 06:44 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Is an Articuno with Mind Reader and Sheer Cold really imba?


Slightly, yes :p

One of the best combinations I saw was an Arcanine with a White Herb as its item. White Herb restores lost stats, so the Arcanine can get off two fully powered Overheats. I thought that was a good idea

There's also the ever effective Rest + Chesto Berry.


Curse-passing to a White Herbed Aerodactyl used to be a pretty overused strat as well.
Viledica
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada361 Posts
July 21 2008 04:06 GMT
#76
After reading through this thread, I'm half tempted to go grab my Pokemon game and start a new game.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3393 Posts
July 21 2008 04:19 GMT
#77
Can you trade yourself five mewtwo's with only two game carts? I haven't tried beating the game three times in a row yet...but there's no point if the later and newer pokemons have already surpassed mewtwo's max stats. The item duplication trick and pumping your pokemon full of steroids, brings back great memories. Too bad I accidently duped my bicycle on one of my gameboy carts and moved it around my inventory slots, dammit...
tracer
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)693 Posts
July 21 2008 04:26 GMT
#78
On July 21 2008 06:51 Atrioc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 02:04 tracer wrote:
On July 21 2008 01:19 Atrioc wrote:
poor noob already said it, but yes go to www.smogon.com and test your teams out on shoddy battle because EV training them and such on diamond and pearl is a huge hell so you need to have it planned out before hand.



I hear Pokesav works wonders. You know, for those of us too weak to handle cruelties of the Pokemon world.


yeah i've traded for some pokesav pokemon (for example a Blissey with seismic toss, since I dont have emerald and Blissey is almost 100% required for tournament play), but since I would have to pay $40 to get an actionreplay in order to use pokesav, i just train most of my guys up manually. With the EV-boosting items it doesnt take very long.


Let me know if you need anything. R4 + Pokesav = time-saver.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 21 2008 13:54 GMT
#79
I got blissey w/
Toxic
DoubleTeam
WaterPulse
Softboil

is she any good?
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
July 21 2008 14:00 GMT
#80
Yay TLPD shows that there's over 386 progamer ids. I'm gonna catch and name every single pokemon after a progamer. Except I've done it in lower case, and everyone else's name is in caps :< like PROF. BIRCH, MAY, ZIGZAGOON.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 15:07:34
July 21 2008 15:07 GMT
#81
Make sure you name Snorlax after Julyzerg.
Or maybe Hariyama.
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
July 21 2008 15:43 GMT
#82
On July 21 2008 22:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
I got blissey w/
Toxic
DoubleTeam
WaterPulse
Softboil

is she any good?


EVs, EVs, EVs, EVs? Nature? Item?

Yes they are that important go to the Advanced Trainers guide in Ruby or the competitive battling guide in Dimanod (both at GameFAQs.com) to learn what they are.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 18:47:40
July 21 2008 18:45 GMT
#83
On July 21 2008 10:01 crazie-penguin wrote:
aren't there also other clauses, like you can't have more than two of the same pokemon in one team, and that you can't put more than one of your opponents pokemon to sleep? Oh, and Uber tier pokemon are usually banned right (for tournaments)? Can someone list all the "standard clauses and rules?

Umm, Item clause (very rare I think) where you can't have same item on two pokemon. Sleep clause (can only put one pokemon to sleep at a time), evasion clause. Umm, think there's a few more, but I only ever play with Sleep, Evasion and OU tier.


Most people go for Cleric blissey:

Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold // Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy
- Thunder Wave / Sing / Ice Beam
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
OMin
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States545 Posts
July 21 2008 18:50 GMT
#84
dude bulbasaur > all, he's #1 for a reason you know (both figuratively and literally on the 150 list )
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
July 21 2008 18:51 GMT
#85
Venusaur's UU tier I think
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
July 21 2008 19:29 GMT
#86
If you like competitive UU (underused) battling, check this site out:
http://www.uustadium.com/
It's just like Smogon, but obviously more focus on UU pokemon.

If you are going through singleplayer, there's no need to worry about EVs anyways. Just pick a balanced team of your favorite pokemon.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 19:32:57
July 21 2008 19:31 GMT
#87
On July 21 2008 23:00 TonyL2 wrote:
Yay TLPD shows that there's over 386 progamer ids. I'm gonna catch and name every single pokemon after a progamer. Except I've done it in lower case, and everyone else's name is in caps :< like PROF. BIRCH, MAY, ZIGZAGOON.


That's what I'm doing! I kinda ran out of ideas really fast though, so I started naming them after like Mondragon and MidiaN >> <<.
On July 22 2008 00:07 Jyvblamo wrote:
Make sure you name Snorlax after Julyzerg.
Or maybe Hariyama.


I named Snorlax after Julyzerg and I named Miltank iNcontroL LOL.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 21 2008 21:11 GMT
#88
On July 20 2008 15:49 GTR-2-Go wrote:
I have uh.

Gardevior with Psychic, Confusion, Double Team (questionable, especially with this moveset) and Impression (Do you mean imprison??
I want to get all but Psychic, what are some good moves

My leet Castform with Blizzard, Fire Blast, Thunder and Weather Ball (LOL). Need to replace Weather Ball with something uber, does Hyper Beam work?
(Im not sure with a fairly low sp.atk that I would be using castform as a multitype sweeper. Blizzard is only 70% acc, which is super annoying when the move only has 5pp - I prefer ice beam myself which still has 95pwr and 100%. Even if you wanted that, why not stick that on your water type? You dont need back up sweepers. Same thing for fireblast and thunder, which again has horrible accuracy without rain dance)

Alakazam with Flash, Confusion, Psychic, Psybeam. Getting rid of it as soon as I get a good fire Pokemon (where are the starteeers).
(Oh god. This entire moveset is wow. 3 psychic attacks of various powers and the most useless HM flash. You only need psychic. have the others (too late now unless you want to waste heart scales) be calm mind (not safe in competitive, but the lack of hp wont hurt you too much in game) or recover or something, but 3 psychic moves is overkill)

Swellow with Aerial Ace, Fly, Steel Wing, Quick Attack.
(not a fan of swellow, and you gyrados means you have two flying pokemon weak to elec. This moveset isnt too bad, although you still have the two flying moves)

Gyrados with Surf, Dragon Dance, Hydro Pump and Hyper Beam.
(this moveset is ok, but generally with water types you want a water attack and an ice attack. Dragon dance raises you speed and attack. Unfortunately the attack boost only helps your hyper beam, so keep that in mind. Gyrados is also 4x vs elec which is scary. but its stats are really high, so its up to you)

aaand Sceptile with Cut, Rock Smash, False Swipe and Leaf Blade. What a shit Pokemon.


your movesets are kinda weak

I fully agree with shallow's choices though
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 21 2008 21:17 GMT
#89
On July 22 2008 03:45 tulleh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 10:01 crazie-penguin wrote:
aren't there also other clauses, like you can't have more than two of the same pokemon in one team, and that you can't put more than one of your opponents pokemon to sleep? Oh, and Uber tier pokemon are usually banned right (for tournaments)? Can someone list all the "standard clauses and rules?

Umm, Item clause (very rare I think) where you can't have same item on two pokemon. Sleep clause (can only put one pokemon to sleep at a time), evasion clause. Umm, think there's a few more, but I only ever play with Sleep, Evasion and OU tier.


Most people go for Cleric blissey:

Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold // Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy
- Thunder Wave / Sing / Ice Beam



there is also freeze clause (only one pokemon can be freezed at a time), uber clause, double team/evasion clause, sleep clause etc

it depends on the bot/tournament which clauses are in effect
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
July 21 2008 21:31 GMT
#90
On July 21 2008 13:26 tracer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 06:51 Atrioc wrote:
On July 21 2008 02:04 tracer wrote:
On July 21 2008 01:19 Atrioc wrote:
poor noob already said it, but yes go to www.smogon.com and test your teams out on shoddy battle because EV training them and such on diamond and pearl is a huge hell so you need to have it planned out before hand.



I hear Pokesav works wonders. You know, for those of us too weak to handle cruelties of the Pokemon world.


yeah i've traded for some pokesav pokemon (for example a Blissey with seismic toss, since I dont have emerald and Blissey is almost 100% required for tournament play), but since I would have to pay $40 to get an actionreplay in order to use pokesav, i just train most of my guys up manually. With the EV-boosting items it doesnt take very long.


Let me know if you need anything. R4 + Pokesav = time-saver.


not immediately cuz im still working out the moveset i want for my team but it would be really fucking nice to get ahold of a properly EV'd and nature'd Cresselia for walling.
Writerman what
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 21:38:12
July 21 2008 21:37 GMT
#91
Those of you playing Pokemon Emerald 386, let's see your Trainer Cards!~
Mine:
[image loading]

and
[image loading]
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TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
July 21 2008 23:05 GMT
#92
On July 22 2008 04:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
That's what I'm doing! I kinda ran out of ideas really fast though, so I started naming them after like Mondragon and MidiaN >> <<.


Just use http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/#tblt-114-6-4-DESC :D

Obviously you didn't think of progamer IDs such as GyunTae[GSP], GGMAN, Flying, Fire or herb, etc etc.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3325 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 23:37:16
July 21 2008 23:37 GMT
#93
On July 22 2008 06:37 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Those of you playing Pokemon Emerald 386, let's see your Trainer Cards!~
Mine:
[image loading]

and
[image loading]


Nice 217 Pokemon. I wanna get all 386.
김택용 Fighting!
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 21 2008 23:48 GMT
#94
Here's something for the really lazy people (myself included).

http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/OfflineProgram/Download.aspx

It contains a full pokedex and a bunch of charts and other resources. More importantly, it comes with this nice utility called "Ciro's Pokemon Maker," which generates codes to create a pokemon in your box. It's great for those who want to play in battle frontier don't want to spend 13289732782 hours legally creating a perfect team.

It's also worth noting, that you can create illegal pokemon with it. You go past the 510 EV limit and max them out in ALL stats, give any pokemon any move, and even make a Slaking without the truant ability. Check it out!
tracer
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)693 Posts
July 22 2008 06:12 GMT
#95
On July 22 2008 06:31 Atrioc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 13:26 tracer wrote:
On July 21 2008 06:51 Atrioc wrote:
On July 21 2008 02:04 tracer wrote:
On July 21 2008 01:19 Atrioc wrote:
poor noob already said it, but yes go to www.smogon.com and test your teams out on shoddy battle because EV training them and such on diamond and pearl is a huge hell so you need to have it planned out before hand.



I hear Pokesav works wonders. You know, for those of us too weak to handle cruelties of the Pokemon world.


yeah i've traded for some pokesav pokemon (for example a Blissey with seismic toss, since I dont have emerald and Blissey is almost 100% required for tournament play), but since I would have to pay $40 to get an actionreplay in order to use pokesav, i just train most of my guys up manually. With the EV-boosting items it doesnt take very long.


Let me know if you need anything. R4 + Pokesav = time-saver.


not immediately cuz im still working out the moveset i want for my team but it would be really fucking nice to get ahold of a properly EV'd and nature'd Cresselia for walling.


Give me the moveset/nature/EVs and it's yours.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
July 22 2008 06:12 GMT
#96
On July 22 2008 00:43 wswordsmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 22:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
I got blissey w/
Toxic
DoubleTeam
WaterPulse
Softboil

is she any good?


EVs, EVs, EVs, EVs? Nature? Item?

Yes they are that important go to the Advanced Trainers guide in Ruby or the competitive battling guide in Dimanod (both at GameFAQs.com) to learn what they are.


Standard R/S Blisseys are Bold with Aromatherapy, Softboiled, Seismic Toss and TWave. Some Blisseys use Ice Beam. If you're a total asshole and use Heal Bell Celebi along with a Blissey, you can use whatever move out of Ice Beam/Toxic/TWave instead of Aromatherapy. You can (attempt to) use Calm Mind Blissey. It fails. If you're feeling cute you can use Counter. I wouldn't recommend it.

You'll want a 252 Def EV Bold Blissey to remotely be useful against anything with a physical attack. Rest of the EVs are up to you.

Also, does anyone else here miss netbattle? I really hate shoddy only because of its GUI and it's honestly the only reason I don't get into competitive D/P battling.
Moderator
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 22 2008 06:28 GMT
#97
I played shoddy once and my team failed to load LOL

I actually have the game pearl so I just play on wifi. Netbattle was pretty fun too.
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
July 22 2008 09:58 GMT
#98
My current team, about to fight the 1st gym leader:

[image loading]


P.S My character is called Bisu
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
July 22 2008 11:20 GMT
#99
My current Pokemons (Pokemon Emerald)
Swampert Lvl. 60, Migthyena Lvl. 25, Swellow Lvl. 40, Hariyama Lvl 31, Azumaril Lvl. 53, Torkoal Lvl 31, Sandshew Lvl. 38 , Seviper Lvl. 22, Castform Lvl. 27, Kecleon Lvl. 32, Wobbuffet Lvl. 30, Xatu Lvl. 29, Girafarig Lvl. 25, Rhyhorn Lvl. 27, Sealeo Lvl 37, Clamperl Lvl 24

My Current Team:
Swellow
Hariyama
Torkoal
Seleo
Azumaril
Clamperl
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
XtaC_hiryu
Profile Joined November 2004
Philippines125 Posts
July 22 2008 12:13 GMT
#100
So I have 5 pokemon with pick-up ability in my current team and my starter is having a bad time lol.
potato and cheese ftw!
ToT)MidiaN(
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
England2183 Posts
July 22 2008 13:41 GMT
#101
On July 22 2008 04:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 23:00 TonyL2 wrote:
Yay TLPD shows that there's over 386 progamer ids. I'm gonna catch and name every single pokemon after a progamer. Except I've done it in lower case, and everyone else's name is in caps :< like PROF. BIRCH, MAY, ZIGZAGOON.


That's what I'm doing! I kinda ran out of ideas really fast though, so I started naming them after like Mondragon and MidiaN >> <<.
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2008 00:07 Jyvblamo wrote:
Make sure you name Snorlax after Julyzerg.
Or maybe Hariyama.


I named Snorlax after Julyzerg and I named Miltank iNcontroL LOL.


sick which pokemon am i?
Nothing worth doing is devoid of risk
kirtar111
Profile Joined May 2007
United States72 Posts
July 22 2008 14:36 GMT
#102
i heard you like mudkipz?
Jogoling
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-22 15:38:17
July 22 2008 15:36 GMT
#103
Mudkip is a good starter if you want ez-mode.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 22 2008 16:23 GMT
#104
On July 22 2008 20:20 sundance wrote:
My current Pokemons (Pokemon Emerald)
Swampert Lvl. 60, Migthyena Lvl. 25, Swellow Lvl. 40, Hariyama Lvl 31, Azumaril Lvl. 53, Torkoal Lvl 31, Sandshew Lvl. 38 , Seviper Lvl. 22, Castform Lvl. 27, Kecleon Lvl. 32, Wobbuffet Lvl. 30, Xatu Lvl. 29, Girafarig Lvl. 25, Rhyhorn Lvl. 27, Sealeo Lvl 37, Clamperl Lvl 24

My Current Team:
Swellow
Hariyama
Torkoal
Seleo
Azumaril
Clamperl


do you really need 3 mediocre water pokemon?
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
July 22 2008 16:52 GMT
#105
Good waters: Swampert, Milotic, Gyara, Starmie. Off the top of my head.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 22 2008 16:57 GMT
#106
kingdra!
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
July 22 2008 17:31 GMT
#107
For "good" water types, Lanturn, Slowbro, and Gyarados come to mind. (for diamond/pearl at least)
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
July 22 2008 17:41 GMT
#108
R/S/E Swampert, Starmie, Suicune (Calm Mind Suicune has no weak), Milotic

Cloyster works for absorbing physical attacks, Tentacrule has decent special defense but I would go Milotic over Tentacrule. Gyardos is good for physical attack.

Basically anything works for single player, but those are the best.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
July 22 2008 18:44 GMT
#109
I've heard that wobbufett is amazingly good. Is that true? I always thought he was a joke when i played.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 22 2008 18:47 GMT
#110
On July 23 2008 03:44 holy_war wrote:
I've heard that wobbufett is amazingly good. Is that true? I always thought he was a joke when i played.


He's rather broken if you have any semblance of prediction.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 22 2008 19:56 GMT
#111
On July 22 2008 22:41 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2008 04:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On July 21 2008 23:00 TonyL2 wrote:
Yay TLPD shows that there's over 386 progamer ids. I'm gonna catch and name every single pokemon after a progamer. Except I've done it in lower case, and everyone else's name is in caps :< like PROF. BIRCH, MAY, ZIGZAGOON.


That's what I'm doing! I kinda ran out of ideas really fast though, so I started naming them after like Mondragon and MidiaN >> <<.
On July 22 2008 00:07 Jyvblamo wrote:
Make sure you name Snorlax after Julyzerg.
Or maybe Hariyama.


I named Snorlax after Julyzerg and I named Miltank iNcontroL LOL.


sick which pokemon am i?


[image loading]
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 22 2008 20:13 GMT
#112
ha
I beat liza and tate with a lvl 50 gardevoir and lvl 53 mightyena lol
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-22 20:26:42
July 22 2008 20:26 GMT
#113
I forget my levels at the time, around the mid-late 40's, but I just abused Surf :p

And a shit-ton of potions and full heals, of course.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
July 22 2008 20:57 GMT
#114
Wobba's been downgraded to OU too! Wobba's awesome because of Shadow Tag, and the fact that he can take the damage, and dish out even more.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-22 22:23:57
July 22 2008 21:21 GMT
#115
Level 50 Scizor raped the hell out of the psychic gym. Sword dance <3

Also:
[image loading]

[image loading]
eborp
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States266 Posts
July 22 2008 23:23 GMT
#116
My current (stall) team:
Skarmory - Toxic, Spikes, Roar, Drill Peck
Gengar - Will-O-Wisp, Shadow Ball, Perish Song, Mean Look
Dusclops - Focus Punch, Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split, Seismic Toss
Blissey - Softboiled, Seismic Toss, Aromatherapy, Wish
Breloom - Spore, Focus Punch, Leech Seed, Substitute
Gardevior - Thunderbolt, Psychic, Hypnosis, Calm Mind

Currently working on a baton pass team. I am using vaporeon, jolteon, umbreon, ninjask, and scyther. No idea what is gonna be my 6th.
UMCP CSL NEEDS YOU!
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-23 01:11:09
July 23 2008 01:10 GMT
#117
On July 23 2008 08:23 Fangster wrote:
My current (stall) team:
Skarmory - Toxic, Spikes, Roar, Drill Peck
Gengar - Will-O-Wisp, Shadow Ball, Perish Song, Mean Look
Dusclops - Focus Punch, Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split, Seismic Toss
Blissey - Softboiled, Seismic Toss, Aromatherapy, Wish
Breloom - Spore, Focus Punch, Leech Seed, Substitute
Gardevior - Thunderbolt, Psychic, Hypnosis, Calm Mind

Currently working on a baton pass team. I am using vaporeon, jolteon, umbreon, ninjask, and scyther. No idea what is gonna be my 6th.


For your Baton Pass, do a Mawile with:
Baton Pass
Swords Dance
Iron Defense
Brick Break

Sick moveset I found online.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 23 2008 08:31 GMT
#118
OMFG stupid emrald 386, i got to the end, all my pokemon were lvl 65 and then it says the save fucks up and i cant go exploring, fucking gay
anyone got links for other pokemon roms?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
July 23 2008 08:48 GMT
#119
Are you going to BP double team? I think metagross is an awesome pokemon to wrap up your BP to.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 23 2008 09:02 GMT
#120
On July 23 2008 08:23 Fangster wrote:
My current (stall) team:
Skarmory - Toxic, Spikes, Roar, Drill Peck
Gengar - Will-O-Wisp, Shadow Ball, Perish Song, Mean Look
Dusclops - Focus Punch, Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split, Seismic Toss
Blissey - Softboiled, Seismic Toss, Aromatherapy, Wish
Breloom - Spore, Focus Punch, Leech Seed, Substitute
Gardevior - Thunderbolt, Psychic, Hypnosis, Calm Mind

Currently working on a baton pass team. I am using vaporeon, jolteon, umbreon, ninjask, and scyther. No idea what is gonna be my 6th.


Where is mandatory smergle for ingrain? Last thing you want in a BP team is to get roared out. Your current lineup is missing both a calm minder and a final recipient for all the boosts. Mr. Mime and Medicham works well for the mentioned slots.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 23 2008 09:04 GMT
#121
On July 23 2008 10:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2008 08:23 Fangster wrote:
My current (stall) team:
Skarmory - Toxic, Spikes, Roar, Drill Peck
Gengar - Will-O-Wisp, Shadow Ball, Perish Song, Mean Look
Dusclops - Focus Punch, Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split, Seismic Toss
Blissey - Softboiled, Seismic Toss, Aromatherapy, Wish
Breloom - Spore, Focus Punch, Leech Seed, Substitute
Gardevior - Thunderbolt, Psychic, Hypnosis, Calm Mind

Currently working on a baton pass team. I am using vaporeon, jolteon, umbreon, ninjask, and scyther. No idea what is gonna be my 6th.


For your Baton Pass, do a Mawile with:
Baton Pass
Swords Dance
Iron Defense
Brick Break

Sick moveset I found online.


Subbing ninjask would carry SD. Vaporeon's acid armor is a far better def boost than iron defense. Mawile isn't as good on an OU BP team.
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 23 2008 09:47 GMT
#122
Assuming this is advanced I would use Mr. Mime for calm minds as well because of soundproof (most popular phazers have roar). But you definitely need smeargle somewhere like what NeoIllusions says.

Why are you using scyther over scizor? Scizor can take hits better and has a better typing. Also, what are you passing with jolteon? 0_o Agility? Even though you have ninjask?
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
July 23 2008 09:50 GMT
#123
I found that more phazers carry whirlwind, ala Skarm
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
July 23 2008 14:09 GMT
#124
Ugh. For my R/S baton pass team, I used

Ninjask (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 128 Def / 252 Spd / 130 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Substitute

You're not getting any swords dances off with Ninjask. Just Sub until you can pass. If a phaser comes in, pass to Umbreon and have him Taunt. Roar/Whirlwind is -1 move priority anyway, and your +1 speed should enable Umbreon to go before all common Hazers except Crobat (which no one uses anyway). If they don't bring in a p/hazer on their first switch in, then Umbreon will Taunt before any +0/-1 priority move anyway.

Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 130 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Baton Pass
- Charm
- Mean Look
- Taunt

This is your anti-phazer. Read above commentary. Mean Look to trap them and then Charm just for shits and giggles. After this I usually pass to Vaporeon or Celebi. You'll want to pass to Umbreon for Taunts for ANY remote threat. This includes things Psych Up Regice/Gardevoir or even more remote threats like Snatch or Magic Coat (never happens. Just watch out for Psych Up Regice, really...haze and roar/whirlwind were explained in above section).

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 224 Def / 34 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Recover

Standard.

Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 130 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Acid Armor
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Surf

Standard.

Smeargle (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 128 Def / 252 Spd / 130 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Baton Pass
- Belly Drum
- Ingrain
- Spore

Standard.

Porygon2 @ Lum Berry
Trait: Trace
EVs: 252 Atk / 6 Spd / 252 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Ice Beam
- Return
- Thunderbolt

Some people like Zapdos instead with TBolt/HP Ice/Drill Peck/BP so you can BP to something else in case it's resisted. Honestly, Porygon2 isn't that great of a recipient. But whatever.



If you're feeling cutesy (like I did), you could add a Trickband Mr. Mime with Trick/CM/BP/Psychic. You'd obviously pass to him after Mean Looking and Charming so they're stucking doing the same move over and over again with -6 ATK. Just be sure to Trick first so you're not stuck with a Focus Band lozltovz.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
July 23 2008 14:10 GMT
#125
Oh, one quick note, you could replace Charm with Moonlight on Umbreon in case you get damaged too badly. But Umbreon is a massive wall anyway, so it shouldn't be that big of a problem. Just charm them to raise your physical defense (by lowering their attack) and then pass to Celebi (another massive wall) to raise your special defense.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
July 23 2008 16:11 GMT
#126
Red and Blue were bloody awesome. Except blue version was better, cause weedles piss the hell out of me. "Poison sting has a 10% chance to poison", but ends up poisoning you EVERY SHOT T_T;;;

I also played Silver back when it came out. That was actually a lot of fun. I never got any other other games, mainly because I didn't have a better gameboy or whatever the hell you play it on these days. I did however borrow a friends DS and play through the R/B remakes. Those were awesome.
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-23 17:13:26
July 23 2008 17:12 GMT
#127
I only ever played red, blue, and yellow. Are any of the others worth playing if I only play single player?

Since this is the ultimate pokemon thread I felt this couldn't be left out.

http://vgcats.com/super/
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
July 23 2008 18:20 GMT
#128
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Your Cloyster example is good, but spikes doesn't affect Dragonite. Last I checked (a long time ago, haven't played in a while which was emerald on an emu) spikes can't do damage to flying types. I usually loved stacking my roster with dragon heavy types, so I would probably have Dragonite + Kingdra as well. Kingdra is a great dragon to have since it has no weaknesses as it's a water + dragon type. This may have changed since I used to do this in Crystal once again ages ago.

Sorry this thread just made me feel really old. I did like to play when I got bored with SC for a while. The single player can be a bit exciting especially the first time around, especially GSC bc of the 2 regions detail.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
tracer
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)693 Posts
July 23 2008 18:25 GMT
#129
On July 24 2008 03:20 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Your Cloyster example is good, but spikes doesn't affect Dragonite. Last I checked (a long time ago, haven't played in a while which was emerald on an emu) spikes can't do damage to flying types. I usually loved stacking my roster with dragon heavy types, so I would probably have Dragonite + Kingdra as well. Kingdra is a great dragon to have since it has no weaknesses as it's a water + dragon type. This may have changed since I used to do this in Crystal once again ages ago.

Sorry this thread just made me feel really old. I did like to play when I got bored with SC for a while. The single player can be a bit exciting especially the first time around, especially GSC bc of the 2 regions detail.


Actually, Dragon attacks are effective against Dragon and neutral against Water, so Kingdra has a key Dragon weakness. The only poke without any weaknesses is Spiritomb, with his Ghost/Dark type.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 23 2008 20:21 GMT
#130
On July 23 2008 17:31 Scaramanga wrote:
OMFG stupid emrald 386, i got to the end, all my pokemon were lvl 65 and then it says the save fucks up and i cant go exploring, fucking gay
anyone got links for other pokemon roms?


IF YOU ARE PLAYING EMERALD 386 AND YOUR SAVE FUCKS UP

1. Hopefully you made a save state just before the point where the game auto-saves after beating the Elite Four.
2. Delete your current save game file (NOT THE SAVE STATE)
(find and delete Pokemon Emerald 386.sav)
3. In VGBAdvance, go Options->Emulator->Real Time Clock, make sure it's checked
4. In VGBAdvance, go Options->Emulator->Save Type->Flash 128K, make sure it's checked
5. Restart the rom and load your save state.
6. Let the game save automatically.
7. This save file shouldn't be corrupted.
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0cz3c
Profile Joined February 2008
United States564 Posts
July 23 2008 22:34 GMT
#131
Shallow, where do you find a larvitar in Emerald 386 o.o
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-23 22:39:17
July 23 2008 22:38 GMT
#132
On July 24 2008 07:34 0cz3c wrote:
Shallow, where do you find a larvitar in Emerald 386 o.o


After you beat the Elite Four go to the Fossil Maniac's house in FallArbor town (it's at the far West) and go into the Cave at the back; they're in there.

On July 23 2008 18:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2008 10:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On July 23 2008 08:23 Fangster wrote:
My current (stall) team:
Skarmory - Toxic, Spikes, Roar, Drill Peck
Gengar - Will-O-Wisp, Shadow Ball, Perish Song, Mean Look
Dusclops - Focus Punch, Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split, Seismic Toss
Blissey - Softboiled, Seismic Toss, Aromatherapy, Wish
Breloom - Spore, Focus Punch, Leech Seed, Substitute
Gardevior - Thunderbolt, Psychic, Hypnosis, Calm Mind

Currently working on a baton pass team. I am using vaporeon, jolteon, umbreon, ninjask, and scyther. No idea what is gonna be my 6th.


For your Baton Pass, do a Mawile with:
Baton Pass
Swords Dance
Iron Defense
Brick Break

Sick moveset I found online.


Subbing ninjask would carry SD. Vaporeon's acid armor is a far better def boost than iron defense. Mawile isn't as good on an OU BP team.


Subbing Ninjask carries Speed doesn't it, unless SD is short for Speed and not Special Defense? Also, I'm confused as to why Acid Armor is better than Iron Defense when they both have the exact same effect.

In fact, from what I know Acid Armor's Defense boost doesn't apply if the enemy gets a Critical Hit. Is this the same for Iron Defense?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 23 2008 22:43 GMT
#133
On July 24 2008 07:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2008 07:34 0cz3c wrote:
Shallow, where do you find a larvitar in Emerald 386 o.o


After you beat the Elite Four go to the Fossil Maniac's house in FallArbor town (it's at the far West) and go into the Cave at the back; they're in there.

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2008 18:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 23 2008 10:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On July 23 2008 08:23 Fangster wrote:
My current (stall) team:
Skarmory - Toxic, Spikes, Roar, Drill Peck
Gengar - Will-O-Wisp, Shadow Ball, Perish Song, Mean Look
Dusclops - Focus Punch, Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split, Seismic Toss
Blissey - Softboiled, Seismic Toss, Aromatherapy, Wish
Breloom - Spore, Focus Punch, Leech Seed, Substitute
Gardevior - Thunderbolt, Psychic, Hypnosis, Calm Mind

Currently working on a baton pass team. I am using vaporeon, jolteon, umbreon, ninjask, and scyther. No idea what is gonna be my 6th.


For your Baton Pass, do a Mawile with:
Baton Pass
Swords Dance
Iron Defense
Brick Break

Sick moveset I found online.


Subbing ninjask would carry SD. Vaporeon's acid armor is a far better def boost than iron defense. Mawile isn't as good on an OU BP team.


Subbing Ninjask carries Speed doesn't it, unless SD is short for Speed and not Special Defense? Also, I'm confused as to why Acid Armor is better than Iron Defense when they both have the exact same effect.

In fact, from what I know Acid Armor's Defense boost doesn't apply if the enemy gets a Critical Hit. Is this the same for Iron Defense?


Ninjask has speed boost, so by default, jask nulls jolteon's role in a BP team. TL is obviously not Smogon, so I'll cut back on the abbreviations, my bad. SD = Sword Dance.

Iron defense does boost by 2 levels. I thought it was 1 level for some reason. If it was one, then obviously acid armor is better.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 23 2008 22:46 GMT
#134
On July 24 2008 07:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2008 07:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On July 24 2008 07:34 0cz3c wrote:
Shallow, where do you find a larvitar in Emerald 386 o.o


After you beat the Elite Four go to the Fossil Maniac's house in FallArbor town (it's at the far West) and go into the Cave at the back; they're in there.

On July 23 2008 18:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 23 2008 10:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On July 23 2008 08:23 Fangster wrote:
My current (stall) team:
Skarmory - Toxic, Spikes, Roar, Drill Peck
Gengar - Will-O-Wisp, Shadow Ball, Perish Song, Mean Look
Dusclops - Focus Punch, Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split, Seismic Toss
Blissey - Softboiled, Seismic Toss, Aromatherapy, Wish
Breloom - Spore, Focus Punch, Leech Seed, Substitute
Gardevior - Thunderbolt, Psychic, Hypnosis, Calm Mind

Currently working on a baton pass team. I am using vaporeon, jolteon, umbreon, ninjask, and scyther. No idea what is gonna be my 6th.


For your Baton Pass, do a Mawile with:
Baton Pass
Swords Dance
Iron Defense
Brick Break

Sick moveset I found online.


Subbing ninjask would carry SD. Vaporeon's acid armor is a far better def boost than iron defense. Mawile isn't as good on an OU BP team.


Subbing Ninjask carries Speed doesn't it, unless SD is short for Speed and not Special Defense? Also, I'm confused as to why Acid Armor is better than Iron Defense when they both have the exact same effect.

In fact, from what I know Acid Armor's Defense boost doesn't apply if the enemy gets a Critical Hit. Is this the same for Iron Defense?


Ninjask has speed boost, so by default, jask nulls jolteon's role in a BP team. TL is obviously not Smogon, so I'll cut back on the abbreviations, my bad. SD = Sword Dance.

Iron defense does boost by 2 levels. I thought it was 1 level for some reason. If it was one, then obviously acid armor is better.


Oh ok, SD = Swords Dance makes a bit more sense :p
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
July 24 2008 10:26 GMT
#135
Critical hits punch through all of your opponent's defensive boosts.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 25 2008 10:39 GMT
#136
People, who should i choose at the start of gold, i chose leaf but idk
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Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
July 27 2008 16:06 GMT
#137
Anyone want to play some Diamond/Pearl with me? I've been training a competitive team waiting for Platinum to come out~
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
July 27 2008 16:17 GMT
#138
Start of gold, I find the most useful one is Cyndiquil, but just go over the gym types+ elite 4 and you will find your answer

Flying
Bug
Normal
Nor this one
Steel
Fighting
Ice
Dragon


Poison
Ghost
Dragon
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 27 2008 16:24 GMT
#139
On July 25 2008 19:39 Scaramanga wrote:
People, who should i choose at the start of gold, i chose leaf but idk


fire
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 16:45:16
July 27 2008 16:26 GMT
#140
Weedles are fucking imba fts. If any of you have Diamond a Pearl or want a game on Shoddy Battle ill be happy to play you.

Edit : If i can make my shitty wifi work..or find my ds whichever comes first.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
July 27 2008 18:23 GMT
#141
my lv 50 savior with 9pool, 1hatchmuta, defilers, and infest terran can own ur pikachu
fuck lag
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 29 2008 12:56 GMT
#142
Can someone link me to a download of this? ~_~
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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
July 29 2008 18:33 GMT
#143
You know, if you do a google search for: pokemon emerald 386 one of the first links you get is:

http://www.4shared.com/file/43803420/2f8171cf/Pokemon_Emerald_386.html?s=1

yw.
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SIUnit
Profile Joined December 2006
China288 Posts
July 29 2008 21:10 GMT
#144
Quick question, for the one time only transfer of pokemon from Emerald to D/P, I heard you have to do something like transfer, and then catch the transfered pokemon in a special area with peusdo-master balls.

What I want to know is, does your transfered pokemon keep their level, IV, EV, and held items? I want to play D/P (or wait for plantinum, seems I always get the compilation game in the series >_>) but am too lazy to redo all that IV breeding/EV training.

Also, for those of you that play emerald version, check out the item cloning trick, it's very useful. I'm cloning tons of master balls/rare candy/berries/left overs for my team building efforts, which is another reason I want to know if held item transfer over from emerald to D/P, cuz I want those master balls and rare candies to transfer over to D/P to quickly rebuild my team to account for the new special/physical attack split w/o needing to put another 300 hours into it.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 29 2008 21:17 GMT
#145
On July 30 2008 06:10 SIUnit wrote:
Quick question, for the one time only transfer of pokemon from Emerald to D/P, I heard you have to do something like transfer, and then catch the transfered pokemon in a special area with peusdo-master balls.

What I want to know is, does your transfered pokemon keep their level, IV, EV, and held items? I want to play D/P (or wait for plantinum, seems I always get the compilation game in the series >_>) but am too lazy to redo all that IV breeding/EV training.

Also, for those of you that play emerald version, check out the item cloning trick, it's very useful. I'm cloning tons of master balls/rare candy/berries/left overs for my team building efforts, which is another reason I want to know if held item transfer over from emerald to D/P, cuz I want those master balls and rare candies to transfer over to D/P to quickly rebuild my team to account for the new special/physical attack split w/o needing to put another 300 hours into it.



I think they keep EV's and IV's. You'll find the Physical/Special split has turned sneasle(once useless) and its evolution weavile into fucking killing machines.

Lame Story - Weavile vs his full team swept the entire thing with 2 swords dances o__o thats how it effects.
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MyStiC_Chaos
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States499 Posts
July 29 2008 22:24 GMT
#146
Wow, ShaLLoW certainly knows his Pokemon ^.^

I've played Emerald, have Yellow, have Pearl.

IMO Yellow > all. I liked D/P too though. Wasn't too much of a fan of R/S/E, maybe because I only played for like 20 minutes -_-

Hey all, favorite Pokemon? Just your FAVORITE Pokemon. No other things.

Mine = Dragonite~ I like how friendly he looks but can demolish.

He's like level 71 in my Pearl game.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 29 2008 22:25 GMT
#147
favorite pokemon = Weavile

That thing is a fucking monster.
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
July 29 2008 22:28 GMT
#148
I like..

Pidgeot. I used him like a lot back in the day when I played a lot of GameBoy ;P

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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 29 2008 22:41 GMT
#149
Pidgeot was always a subpar pokemon. Dodrio and Fearow were better in all aspects.
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drift0ut
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United Kingdom691 Posts
July 29 2008 23:01 GMT
#150
Gengar or kadabra, get either of these early in blue/red/yellow and you are sorted, well kadabra as you can get an abra before misty, gastly doesn't come till later.

Laprus was always fun, or hitmonlee no snorlax...man this game is about 10 years old and i still love it
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 23:14:16
July 29 2008 23:12 GMT
#151
Swellow and HonchKrow and uh..StarRaptor are superior to Pidgeot also..

And also you can transfer as many times as you want i think,you can only do it once a day though.

Cause i transfered all the regi's and a bunch of other shit from just starting the game over each day..
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
July 29 2008 23:41 GMT
#152
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b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
August 11 2008 11:02 GMT
#153
has anyone tried assembling a team that resembles a character's team in the anime to beat the game?
Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
August 11 2008 13:03 GMT
#154
i just got hooked on Emerald. I play it with VBA now and its taking time away from my SC practise

it's pretty fun to roll through emerald using only older pokemon.. i gamesharked my game to get my faveourite 6 pokemon from GSC and RBY. and i don't mean legendaries either. guys like ariados and marowak. people who use all legendaries are missing the point of the game. it's about your faveourite pokemon not how many guys in your team have 500+ sp atk

On July 30 2008 07:24 MyStiC_Chaos wrote:
Hey all, favorite Pokemon? Just your FAVORITE Pokemon. No other things.

Mine = Dragonite~ I like how friendly he looks but can demolish.

He's like level 71 in my Pearl game.


Breloom is my fave pokemon. spore focus punch for great hilarity
scv rush ftw
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 11 2008 14:00 GMT
#155
op is full of shit!
blogs = best section on TL
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
August 14 2008 13:50 GMT
#156
On August 11 2008 22:03 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
i just got hooked on Emerald. I play it with VBA now and its taking time away from my SC practise

it's pretty fun to roll through emerald using only older pokemon.. i gamesharked my game to get my faveourite 6 pokemon from GSC and RBY. and i don't mean legendaries either. guys like ariados and marowak. people who use all legendaries are missing the point of the game. it's about your faveourite pokemon not how many guys in your team have 500+ sp atk

Show nested quote +
On July 30 2008 07:24 MyStiC_Chaos wrote:
Hey all, favorite Pokemon? Just your FAVORITE Pokemon. No other things.

Mine = Dragonite~ I like how friendly he looks but can demolish.

He's like level 71 in my Pearl game.


Breloom is my fave pokemon. spore focus punch for great hilarity


Why didn't you just download emerald 386? All the old pokemon are in it. I only use Altaria and Cacturne from the new game. Other than that I think I have Blastoise (Starter), Jynx, Alakazam, and Hitmontop. I'm stuck on the elite four and I'm about 10 levels down and of course the first guy is dark type and my team is mostly psychic, my hitmontop is like 20 levels down cuz I needed to keep someone out to use fly//strength//flash//waterfall (so annoying)
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
August 14 2008 14:02 GMT
#157
Red/Blue/Yellow totally own everything. They were the best versions, and the best Pokémon ever, and none of the newer ones will ever come close.


inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
August 14 2008 14:16 GMT
#158
my favorite is snorlax easy, nothing better then that lazy fatass. with one of those awakening berries he isnt half bad, considering he gets 2 rounds of hp, and fighting pokemon arent really insanely common, and he can learn pretty much anything...
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
August 19 2008 04:18 GMT
#159
I finally got 'em.

After at least an hour dozens of pokeballs I finally caught a Beldum, I had to resort to cheating (reloading save states) to do it but I did it.
Damn that was annoying.

ps: don't bother telling me no one cares I already know just had to share it with someone.
XtaC_hiryu
Profile Joined November 2004
Philippines125 Posts
August 25 2008 12:38 GMT
#160
yup I did that too.. they have the lowest catch rate (like the legendary ones)
haha wild beldum (only on 386!!) and LOL at wild Snorlax@Leftovers
potato and cheese ftw!
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
August 25 2008 15:32 GMT
#161
Ahh pokemon
the good old days
Graphics
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
August 25 2008 15:40 GMT
#162
Waaay too many Pokemon now, but my favorite was Cubone back in the days...
this is my quote.
D00dles
Profile Joined June 2008
Cambodia217 Posts
August 25 2008 16:58 GMT
#163
Idd.. Pokemon was epic when it was Red and Blue and i was like 9 at the time and everyone was going crazy for Pokemon anything.

Then yellow came out and after that everything turned to shit.

Gotta be Charizard though.
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meowmeow-
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 14:43:21
November 02 2011 14:42 GMT
#164
Hey guys,

didn't want to create a new thread for the sake of asking this, but I haven't played PKMN since I was like 12, missed every game since the original ones (assuming Red and Blue were the first).

Now I want to play one of the games again, since I have nothing to play till D3 or TL2 come out.

Which PKMN game has the most content when it comes to actual gameplay (i. e. Pokemons, trainers and zones), not weird costume contests and the like?
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 02 2011 14:52 GMT
#165
In terms of the main quest, it'd be Gold/Silver (or HG/SS) that'd probably have the most content since its the only games with 16 badges (but then again, you can beat silver in 3 hours anyways)
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meowmeow-
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany291 Posts
November 02 2011 14:54 GMT
#166
What's the difference between HG/SS and G/S?

I'd love to play a version that has season 1 pokemon available early on.
Does Gengar require trading in every version?
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 15:13:46
November 02 2011 15:13 GMT
#167
1. HG/SS has updated graphics (it's for the NDS), has a bunch of sidequests not originally in GS, and eventually lets you catch gen 4 pokemon. it also uses the revamped battle system/stat system of gen 4, which classifies moves as either physical or special in addition to their type. physical moves run from the attack stat and hit the defence stat, special moves run from the sp. att stat and hit the sp. def stat.

2. you should play blue, red, green, yellow, or FR/LG. and of course, GS and HGSS have a mix of gen1 and gen2 pokemon.

3. yes, you still need to trade to evolve haunter. nothing's changed in terms of evolutionary requirements for gen1/2/3 pokemon.
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meowmeow-
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany291 Posts
November 02 2011 15:45 GMT
#168
Can I circumvent this somehow?
Since I'll use an emulator, I can't really trade with anyone, can I?
Gengar is just my favourite PKMN
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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
November 02 2011 15:55 GMT
#169
On November 03 2011 00:45 meowmeow- wrote:
Can I circumvent this somehow?
Since I'll use an emulator, I can't really trade with anyone, can I?
Gengar is just my favourite PKMN


There is like this gamelink option fro Virtual Boy Advance
You need to get like a special copy, and open to copies and stuff
http://endlessparadigm.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1899

Here is a guide
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
November 02 2011 15:56 GMT
#170
On November 03 2011 00:45 meowmeow- wrote:
Can I circumvent this somehow?
Since I'll use an emulator, I can't really trade with anyone, can I?
Gengar is just my favourite PKMN

Yeah, it's possible with an emulator. There are guides everywhere on how to do that.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 18:13:11
November 02 2011 18:12 GMT
#171
On November 03 2011 00:13 zeehar wrote:
3. yes, you still need to trade to evolve haunter. nothing's changed in terms of evolutionary requirements for gen1/2/3 pokemon.

Not necessarily true. While it doesn't work in Black/White, in HG/SS and D/P/Pt, if you put a "trade evolution" pokemon up for trade (usually for something stupidly outlandish) then make any other trade successfully and take him back out, he evolves.

I did this with my Kadabra

Edit: strike that, it might.
Dee-Kej
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden191 Posts
November 02 2011 18:57 GMT
#172
This thread needs some updates on what you can do online that has to do with pokemon:

Pokemon Tower Defense
It is what it says it is - a tower defense game with pokemon. Play it, it's awesome. ♥
http://samdangames.blogspot.com/p/play-ptd_03.html

Pokemon Online
Play pokemon battles online with customizable teams
www.pokemon-online.eu

Pokemon TCG Online
Pokemon TCG. Online. There aren't many cards available, but it's only in beta so idk, might be more coming.
http://www.pokemontcg.com/

Pokemon Fusion
Cross-breed your favourite pokemon (only #1-#98) into one. May or may not make you laugh at poke-abominations.
http://alexonsager.net/pokemon/

Happy procrastinating ♥
Going progame(make)r!!
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
November 02 2011 23:24 GMT
#173
www.smogon.com is THE premier site for competitive pokemon battling.

i got out of the metagame after gen5 came out, but it was extremely fun before that.
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your3wishes
Profile Joined April 2011
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 19:53:13
November 07 2011 19:52 GMT
#174
I heart pokemon so i made this!
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
November 07 2011 19:57 GMT
#175
On November 02 2011 23:52 Kupon3ss wrote:
In terms of the main quest, it'd be Gold/Silver (or HG/SS) that'd probably have the most content since its the only games with 16 badges (but then again, you can beat silver in 3 hours anyways)



wait.. what?
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meowmeow-
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany291 Posts
November 12 2011 20:09 GMT
#176
Hey,

playing SS right now.

Beat the Top and the Champion, killed 2 Gym Leaders in Kanto and flew back to kill the Top 4 again.

Now how do I get back to Kanto?
I can't fly there (the Pokeballs on the Map are grayed out, why?).
I can't take the ship, it only drives on Mondays and Fridays.
I can't use the train, it's not there yet.

Do I have to wait till Monday to play on? Oo
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Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
November 12 2011 20:29 GMT
#177
On November 13 2011 05:09 meowmeow- wrote:
Hey,

playing SS right now.

Beat the Top and the Champion, killed 2 Gym Leaders in Kanto and flew back to kill the Top 4 again.

Now how do I get back to Kanto?
I can't fly there (the Pokeballs on the Map are grayed out, why?).
I can't take the ship, it only drives on Mondays and Fridays.
I can't use the train, it's not there yet.

Do I have to wait till Monday to play on? Oo


Isn't killing the gym leaders a bit drastic to obtain those badges?

and you need to explore the places first before you can actually fly to it, oh and go to indigo plateau to go to kanto
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Rizare
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada592 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 20:31:13
November 12 2011 20:29 GMT
#178
On November 13 2011 05:09 meowmeow- wrote:
Hey,

playing SS right now.

Beat the Top and the Champion, killed 2 Gym Leaders in Kanto and flew back to kill the Top 4 again.

Now how do I get back to Kanto?
I can't fly there (the Pokeballs on the Map are grayed out, why?).
I can't take the ship, it only drives on Mondays and Fridays.
I can't use the train, it's not there yet.

Do I have to wait till Monday to play on? Oo

Weird. You can't take SS. Anne at the city with the steel gym leader. Well, maybe it's just my memory since it has been a long time I played it. I can't help much if that's really the case except changing the console clock manually.

Anyways, I read the Pokemon Adventure manga series although it seems that translations have come to a halt for now except B&W chapters. I don't play the games much anymore.

Edit: I fail at reading comprehension. Indigo plateau to fly.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 23 2011 22:10 GMT
#179
I'm gonna buy a game for my DS tomorrow and was thinking about getting a pokemon game if I don't find anything else. Which one should I go for? I have no previous experience.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 23 2011 22:13 GMT
#180
Soulsilver or Heartgold.
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 23 2011 22:26 GMT
#181
On November 24 2011 07:13 Kipsate wrote:
Soulsilver or Heartgold.


What's the difference, does it matter which one I take?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
November 23 2011 22:36 GMT
#182
So how many different Pokemon can Eevee evolve into now? Last time I played a Pokemon game the answer was 6.
My Vaporeon was the king of Gen 1/2 against my friends.
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TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
November 23 2011 22:40 GMT
#183
On November 24 2011 07:36 Orcasgt24 wrote:
So how many different Pokemon can Eevee evolve into now? Last time I played a Pokemon game the answer was 6.
My Vaporeon was the king of Gen 1/2 against my friends.

It's seven as of (hoping for a ghost and poison type in the next series)
Flareon - Fire
Vaporeon - Water
Jolteon - Electric
Umbreon - Dark
Espeon - Psychic
Glaceon - Ice
Leafeon - Grass
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