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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
July 20 2008 16:50 GMT
#41
G/S/C was easily best.
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tracer
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)693 Posts
July 20 2008 17:04 GMT
#42
On July 21 2008 01:19 Atrioc wrote:
poor noob already said it, but yes go to www.smogon.com and test your teams out on shoddy battle because EV training them and such on diamond and pearl is a huge hell so you need to have it planned out before hand.



I hear Pokesav works wonders. You know, for those of us too weak to handle cruelties of the Pokemon world.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
July 20 2008 17:05 GMT
#43
To be really honest, I haven't played any of the GBA versions of pokemon
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TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 17:35 GMT
#44
I started playing Emerald 386, and I find it to be lots of fun - the added pokemon are done well, and the higher leveled trainers make the game more interesting.

However, I cannot seem to find a good list of what is where. The list I am using can be found here:

http://www.freewebs.com/bikdiponabus/Emerald 386 locations.txt

This seems to be quite erroneous. For example, with Tyrogue it says that you get one by breeding one of its evolutions with a ditto. However, I found it in the cave on Dewford Town. Magby/Elekid/clefa-whatever are also supposed to be available only through breeding, but they are all in the Whismur cave. Bulbasaur seems to be nowhere to be found in Petalburg woods.

Is there something I am missing, or is there a much better list somewhere out there?
Those who think they know everything, are very annoying to those of us who do. - Mark Twain
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
July 20 2008 18:08 GMT
#45
I > Locked in adv NU 2ez.

Unfortunately Neo > me in adv NU >_<
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 20 2008 19:24 GMT
#46
Where can I get a Relicanth? I've been searching the bottoms of Sootopolis for like, ten minutes and all I find are Poliwhirls and the occasional Chinchou and Clamperl
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 20:00:09
July 20 2008 19:59 GMT
#47
On July 21 2008 02:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
I started playing Emerald 386, and I find it to be lots of fun - the added pokemon are done well, and the higher leveled trainers make the game more interesting.

However, I cannot seem to find a good list of what is where. The list I am using can be found here:

http://www.freewebs.com/bikdiponabus/Emerald 386 locations.txt

This seems to be quite erroneous. For example, with Tyrogue it says that you get one by breeding one of its evolutions with a ditto. However, I found it in the cave on Dewford Town. Magby/Elekid/clefa-whatever are also supposed to be available only through breeding, but they are all in the Whismur cave. Bulbasaur seems to be nowhere to be found in Petalburg woods.

Is there something I am missing, or is there a much better list somewhere out there?


This is the list I'm using, and yeah it is a bit out of wack. If you want to know where something is, ask me; I've probably seen it :p

@poor noob, I really don't intend to engage in serious competition, I just want to enjoy myself playing the single player. Sure I could make a sick Skarmbliss lineup filled with sweepers but I'd rather not..someone else equated it to playing 3v3 BGH rather than iCCup One on One.

On July 21 2008 04:24 ydg wrote:
Where can I get a Relicanth? I've been searching the bottoms of Sootopolis for like, ten minutes and all I find are Poliwhirls and the occasional Chinchou and Clamperl


Look in the underwater grass around where Team Aqua's underwater lair was, where they parked the stolen submarine.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 20 2008 20:00 GMT
#48
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.

I personally think EV training is not that time-consuming :X but IV breeding certainly is.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
July 20 2008 20:04 GMT
#49
Yeah, i remember playing this stuff, like 8 years ago....
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 20:29 GMT
#50
On July 21 2008 04:59 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 02:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
I started playing Emerald 386, and I find it to be lots of fun - the added pokemon are done well, and the higher leveled trainers make the game more interesting.

However, I cannot seem to find a good list of what is where. The list I am using can be found here:

http://www.freewebs.com/bikdiponabus/Emerald 386 locations.txt

This seems to be quite erroneous. For example, with Tyrogue it says that you get one by breeding one of its evolutions with a ditto. However, I found it in the cave on Dewford Town. Magby/Elekid/clefa-whatever are also supposed to be available only through breeding, but they are all in the Whismur cave. Bulbasaur seems to be nowhere to be found in Petalburg woods.

Is there something I am missing, or is there a much better list somewhere out there?


This is the list I'm using, and yeah it is a bit out of wack. If you want to know where something is, ask me; I've probably seen it :p




Thanks for the response/offer.

I do have a few questions - where are the 9 starters? I could never actually find Bulbasaur in the petalburg woods, so I am suspecting the others of being erroneous as well.
Those who think they know everything, are very annoying to those of us who do. - Mark Twain
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 20:31 GMT
#51
On July 21 2008 05:29 TarsTarkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 04:59 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On July 21 2008 02:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
I started playing Emerald 386, and I find it to be lots of fun - the added pokemon are done well, and the higher leveled trainers make the game more interesting.

However, I cannot seem to find a good list of what is where. The list I am using can be found here:

http://www.freewebs.com/bikdiponabus/Emerald 386 locations.txt

This seems to be quite erroneous. For example, with Tyrogue it says that you get one by breeding one of its evolutions with a ditto. However, I found it in the cave on Dewford Town. Magby/Elekid/clefa-whatever are also supposed to be available only through breeding, but they are all in the Whismur cave. Bulbasaur seems to be nowhere to be found in Petalburg woods.

Is there something I am missing, or is there a much better list somewhere out there?


This is the list I'm using, and yeah it is a bit out of wack. If you want to know where something is, ask me; I've probably seen it :p




Thanks for the response/offer.

I do have a few questions - where are the 9 starters? I could never actually find Bulbasaur in the petalburg woods, so I am suspecting the others of being erroneous as well.


All 9 starters are in the Altering Cave.

Go North from Slateport until you hit the Trick House; from there, head West until you find a cave. It's on Route 103 I believe.

He's not in Petalburg woods :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 20:35 GMT
#52
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.
Those who think they know everything, are very annoying to those of us who do. - Mark Twain
TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 20:36 GMT
#53
On July 21 2008 05:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 05:29 TarsTarkas wrote:
On July 21 2008 04:59 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On July 21 2008 02:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
I started playing Emerald 386, and I find it to be lots of fun - the added pokemon are done well, and the higher leveled trainers make the game more interesting.

However, I cannot seem to find a good list of what is where. The list I am using can be found here:

http://www.freewebs.com/bikdiponabus/Emerald 386 locations.txt

This seems to be quite erroneous. For example, with Tyrogue it says that you get one by breeding one of its evolutions with a ditto. However, I found it in the cave on Dewford Town. Magby/Elekid/clefa-whatever are also supposed to be available only through breeding, but they are all in the Whismur cave. Bulbasaur seems to be nowhere to be found in Petalburg woods.

Is there something I am missing, or is there a much better list somewhere out there?


This is the list I'm using, and yeah it is a bit out of wack. If you want to know where something is, ask me; I've probably seen it :p




Thanks for the response/offer.

I do have a few questions - where are the 9 starters? I could never actually find Bulbasaur in the petalburg woods, so I am suspecting the others of being erroneous as well.


All 9 starters are in the Altering Cave.

Go North from Slateport until you hit the Trick House; from there, head West until you find a cave. It's on Route 103 I believe.

He's not in Petalburg woods :p


Awesome, thanks ShaLLoW[baY]
Those who think they know everything, are very annoying to those of us who do. - Mark Twain
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
July 20 2008 20:36 GMT
#54
Which version do you play right now? I guess I feel old since I never played shit but the Original Pokemon, not to mention ran home from school at fucking breakneck speed every fucking day. Shools out at 3:15 pokemons on at 3:30 and its a mile to my house, you do the math. I come up with one 10 year old running really really really fucking fast.

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Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 20:51:48
July 20 2008 20:50 GMT
#55
On July 21 2008 02:04 tracer wrote:
I hear Pokesav works wonders. You know, for those of us too weak to handle cruelties of the Pokemon world.


Pokesav is awesome.
I can't stand doing EV training. IV breeding is even worse.

On July 21 2008 00:25 poor newb wrote:
your teams are terrible, learn how to really play pokemon here:
http://www.smogon.com


It's hard have a 'good' team (with good movesets) just playing through the singleplayer, because of restricting things like HMs, or hard to find pokemon that could do a better job.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 20 2008 21:18 GMT
#56
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Well they are much harder to counter now :X they were much easier since they had no real good stab but now that they have physical dragon stab, it's much harder to switch in. Your cloyster example is good but not many pokemon can switch in anymore.

How would you switch in alakazam or gengar on a dragon? Or why would they switch a dragon in on alakazam or gengar? <_< I hope you mean hidden power ice since ice punch is physical now. And even if you manage to switch in them, it would be pretty obvious you had an ice move since you switched in on a dragon.

In ruby/sapphire they couldn't 2HKO many things but now they can.

ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2008 21:21 GMT
#57
On July 21 2008 06:18 Umbrella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Well they are much harder to counter now :X they were much easier since they had no real good stab but now that they have physical dragon stab, it's much harder to switch in. Your cloyster example is good but not many pokemon can switch in anymore.

How would you switch in alakazam or gengar on a dragon? Or why would they switch a dragon in on alakazam or gengar? <_< I hope you mean hidden power ice since ice punch is physical now. And even if you manage to switch in them, it would be pretty obvious you had an ice move since you switched in on a dragon.

In ruby/sapphire they couldn't 2HKO many things but now they can.



Man, wouldn't you be pissed if I randomly switched in a Pinsir and Guillotined your Dragonite :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
July 20 2008 21:24 GMT
#58
On July 21 2008 06:18 Umbrella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Well they are much harder to counter now :X they were much easier since they had no real good stab but now that they have physical dragon stab, it's much harder to switch in. Your cloyster example is good but not many pokemon can switch in anymore.

How would you switch in alakazam or gengar on a dragon? Or why would they switch a dragon in on alakazam or gengar? <_< I hope you mean hidden power ice since ice punch is physical now. And even if you manage to switch in them, it would be pretty obvious you had an ice move since you switched in on a dragon.

In ruby/sapphire they couldn't 2HKO many things but now they can.



Ok, I didn't understand about the physical/special re-ordering. The fact that they now have good STAB moves makes this much more tricky, you are right. I know nothing about the new games, so I was speaking from an Emerald standpoint.

On July 21 2008 06:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 06:18 Umbrella wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:35 TarsTarkas wrote:
On July 21 2008 05:00 Umbrella wrote:
Yes ice beam does counter dragons but would any decent player let their dragon get ice beamed? Most likely they will switch out to something that will take ice beam or they switch their dragon into something that can't do crap against them. When they do switch in, either you switch out to your dragon counter and let your switch in take loads of damage, or you still stay in and get killed. Most ice beam users are slower than dragons as well so this makes it incredibly hard.

Now that dragon moves can by physical, most garchomps pack dragon claw/earthquake/fire fang or fire blast (depending if you are more scared of bronzong or skarmory) and some other random move. Nothing resists the dragon/fire combo other than heatran and that gets killed by earthquake.


These are good points, but the switching tactic definitely has faults. For example, I sent a Cloyster out to counter your Dragonite. I know you will switch, so instead of using Ice Beam, I put down a layer of spikes. Switching just got a whole lot less fun, didn't it?

Or what if I send out something that doesn't obviously have an ice move? For example, I could use Alakazam or Gengar, both can learn Ice Punch and have awesome special attack and speed.

I've never played the newest games, but in my experience, Dragons are not difficult to counter - they just scew you over if you are unprepared. Fortunately, there are lots of ways to beat them other than using Ice.


Well they are much harder to counter now :X they were much easier since they had no real good stab but now that they have physical dragon stab, it's much harder to switch in. Your cloyster example is good but not many pokemon can switch in anymore.

How would you switch in alakazam or gengar on a dragon? Or why would they switch a dragon in on alakazam or gengar? <_< I hope you mean hidden power ice since ice punch is physical now. And even if you manage to switch in them, it would be pretty obvious you had an ice move since you switched in on a dragon.

In ruby/sapphire they couldn't 2HKO many things but now they can.



Man, wouldn't you be pissed if I randomly switched in a Pinsir and Guillotined your Dragonite :p


That would be beyond hilarious! :p
Those who think they know everything, are very annoying to those of us who do. - Mark Twain
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 20 2008 21:44 GMT
#59
I finally got a relicanth!

ugh Regice is a little bitch. I got him down to 1 hp (because i kept killing him and save stating and it left him with 1) and i used 50 timer balls on him and he still refuses to be caught. And now he's struggling...so I resort to the boring savestate way of catching . I shoulda hypnosised him.
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
July 20 2008 21:44 GMT
#60
Is an Articuno with Mind Reader and Sheer Cold really imba?
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