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Kingkosi
United States1215 Posts
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thedeadhaji
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Then when you try to put it to use the rate will drop to like 4/10, but hey that's much better than the 1/10 it probably was before. Then you go back and do it in training again, repeat. Eventually you get to the point where you can do it in a game 6/10, 8/10, etc. GL! | ||
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Scooter
United States747 Posts
edit: finally got around to finishing the podcast, great stuff! This is even more useful than audio commentaries when I was still into Warcraft 3. | ||
Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
So this guy ShinRyuX from South Florida is in Waterloo on business for 2 weeks. I played 3s with him twice last week. He has a fearsome Ken. Apparently he would often get top 5 in 3s tournaments a few years ago, so he is definitely a strong player. I've read on SRK that one of the goals with Ken's okizeme is to make your opponent think you're going to throw him, then make him whiff the throw (or parry a cr.lp+lk option select) and combo into a super. Until I played ShinRyuX, I did not realize just how effectively Ken can do this. O_O Anyway, hopefully I can take the brief experience I've had fighting him to beef up my Ken for T9. | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
Too bad my only way to play threez against real people is GGPO until the new arcade opens here, I absolutely hate having all the timings feel so off. | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
If Ken does meaty strong, usually what I try to do is block the meaty and immediately try to jump + parry. If he does the chain, I'll end up blocking it and if he tries to throw, I'll be in the air. If I fuck up, maybe I eat a fierce or something, much better than eating a combo into super. If he does a cr. short from almost point blank and walks forward, I always tech, since there's nothing else he can do other than throw (or if he tries something else, your throw will get him). Midscreen depending on the range I like to walk back (gets me outta throw range and then I can jump or do something stupid and get hit anyways), or jump back+parry (if I'm cornered, sometimes I jump up and parry or divekick away if he's walking towards me). If he's walking back and forth, in and out of throw range, I can time a cr.short xx dashpunch while he's walking forward before he can parry down. Basically I just run the fuck away and build meter =P, some people don't have the luxury of having characters with free damage so they have to make more risky guesses. One of the better guys at the arcade told me I shouldn't tech until I see the throw come out. I don't know how he does it, but it seems to work for him to an extent. Maybe if you have godly reflexes you can just block all day and tech when you see him throw you. For more normal or slower people (like me), you just have to recognize what options he has and predict to the best of your ability. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
Most people can't even hit confirm Ken's cr.mk which is like 7 frames of cancel time iirc. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14899 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On July 13 2008 03:51 thedeadhaji wrote: uhhh, I just looked it up and Ken's throw manifests itself in 2 frames. That's 1/30th of a second. No human being can react to that after seeing the beginning of the throw animation. Most people can't even hit confirm Ken's cr.mk which is like 7 frames of cancel time iirc. Isn't it 2 frames startup + 1 hitting frame + 5 frames afterwards in order to tech? That's about the same as the c.mk as mentioned. edit: but yeah, obviously on reaction that's still insane. Nothing like hit confirming where you're looking for something specific that you initiated and know beforehand exactly when to look for it. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
I recall Keeper, among others, saying he cant do cr.mk -> SAIII for ken. | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
If teching is about the same amount of time as cr. mk confirm, perhaps if you have godly reflexes and you really look for it you *can* tech on reaction. Of course the guy could have been totally bullshitting me (which is what I thought when he first told me this). | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
If you just do it mechanically every time then of course they can mess you up, but it's just a basis to work from really. | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
T9 AHF results: I hate my life. | ||
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
On a more serious note don't hate your life! Only Harem should. | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On July 14 2008 15:39 SayaSP wrote: Yo Bill don't hate your life just yet, check this! ... That topic is making me hate life in general, haha.  I was just joking. Typical post-tournament not-1st-place regret. Anyway, here are the actual results: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5342826&postcount=50 By the way, it turns out my Kira is still far better than my Kamui. Unfortunately I learned this the "hard" way. T___T | ||
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
Plus Kamui is dumb in FULL, wait till AH2 to play Kamui since that's when the real fun begins ;( | ||
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Scooter
United States747 Posts
waaah, sorry for the caps, but finishing it was totally orgasmic. I know the combo's not that hard, but it was super nifty to see how fast I could get Akuma's life to go down. Pyrolee/Gooteck's podcast like tolly renewed my drive to get better. Also that was one creepy ass player. | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On July 14 2008 15:39 SayaSP wrote: Yo Bill don't hate your life just yet, check this! Ohhhh now I see what happened here. Catyoul posted a link to an image that will retrieve each person's own profile pic, so everyone sees their own pic, hahahahahaha. But my profile pic was just the default ? so I didn't get the joke. I just read the first page and thought everybody was claiming to be the ? person in an attempt to be funny. Edit: rooooofl: On July 14 2008 15:19 outqast wrote: CAN AN ADMIN PLEASE TAKE DOWN THIS THREAD. THIS IS EXTREMELY EMBARRASSING, AND I WOULD PREFER MY PICTURE OR MY INFORMATION BE POSTED ON THIS FORUM. CAN YOU CLOSE THIS PLEASE. I DID NOT GIVE MY INFORMATION OUT ON FACEBOOK AND SOMEHOW YOU HAVE ACCESS TO IT. I AM DISABLING ALL MY STARCRAFT APPLICATIONS NOW AND CHANGING MY PICTURE. | ||
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thedeadhaji
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