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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 20 2009 17:10 GMT
#12641



here's yesterday's test server patch notes. new patch should be up tonight, could diff from this somewhat (even possibly get new heroes)

0.2.16 Patch Notes
Version 0.2.16
-------------
- The anouncer sound for when a teammate picks up a rune should now be global
- The water and tar in the Wells should now flow freely again
- Fixed an issue with modifiers

Items

New Item, Sacred Greaves
- Requires Marchers, a Ringmail, a Mana Battery, and 200 gold recipe cost. 1460 total.
- +70 Movement Speed
- +6 Armor
- When an enemy spell is cast in a 1600 AoE around the wearer, Sacred Greaves gain one charge. When used, Sacred Greaves restore 15 health and mana per charge. Maximum of 15 charges. 10 second cooldown.

Enhanced Marchers:
- Renamed to Ghost Marchers
- Ghost Marchers offer +24 damage, +70 movement speed, and when activated boost your movement speed by 10% for 6 seconds
* Ghost Marchers have a 12 second cool down and also apply unit walking while active
* Ghost Marchers once again dispel their active state upon ability usage
- Recipe changed to require Marchers and two Punchdaggers (total cost unchanged)

Steamboots:
- Steamboots now give +10 to a selected attribute and no longer provide a bonus to other attributes other than the selected one
- Steamboots now give +25 attack speed
- Steamboots movement speed lowered to 60 (from 75)
- Recipe changed to require Marchers, Gloves of the Swift, and one of the $450 attribute items (Bolstering Armband, Fleetfeet, or Apprentice's Robe)

Heroes

Witch Slayer
- Silver Bullet can no longer be avoided by going invisible as the projectile is in midair

Version 0.2.15
-------------
General
- Pre-Query filtering is now available to cut down on the number of servers pinged
* This will help those who time out when pinging servers to avoid that problem
- Fixed a large amount of spelling and grammar errors in all tooltips
- Game lobby chat now switches to team chat automatically once the hero select screen is displayed
- Fixed the game lobby to show 10 players again (For real this time)
- Fixed runes and some creeps disappearing when not synced correctly with the server
- Significant server optimizations
- Glyph to make buildings immune can now be bound to a key and now shows in the control selection interface by default instead of Patrol
- Added a /time chat command to return the current system time/date of the users computer
* This might not work until the chat server is updated
- Added an /ignorechat or /ic chat command used to toggle ignoring team/all chat
* Note this only works for team/all chat in the lobby, hero select screen and in game, not whispers, IM's and other messages

Behemoth
- Fixed Fissure to properly stun and do damage again
- Fixed an issue causing the AoE stun from Heavyweight to occur at the location of Fissure's target

Scout:
- Vanish now has an upkeep mana cost of 2/3/4/5 per second, changed from 3 at all levels
- Electric Eyes can no longer be placed within a 75 radius of trees
* This is to prevent abusive placement resulting in a block of neutral spawns
- Disarm now lasts 1 second, from 2

Soulstealer
- Fixed Demon Hand's tooltip to be 150 instead of 100
* Demon Hand was doing the correct amount of damage, the tooltip was simply incorrect

The Dark Lady:
- Dark Blades cool down reduced by 4 seconds at all levels (from 26/22/18/14 to 22/18/14/10)
- Charging Strikes' attack speed buff now lasts 6 seconds, increased from 5
- Cover of Darkness now costs 75 mana at all levels (from 50/100/150)

Wild Soul
- Fixed Rabid with Synergy tooltip when it is level 4
__________________

sacred greaves' ability is exactly the same as Power Supply with one exception, it has a 10 second cooldown rather than 25.

some thoughts: i like the boots changes, the new greaves are pretty awesome with fast ms armor and enhanced power supply all in one. steamboots are back to being for carry heroes who want some extra hp which is nice, enhanced marchers have a bit more speed but lost the attack speed for more damage. not sure how much I like that since the attack speed + dmg bonus on one item was nice, but +24 dmg on the boots sounds pretty strong too so it's probably ok.

scout's nerfs aren't a big deal at all, disarm is still incredibly strong, the disarm duration really doesn't matter much at all. and with battlefury the +2 more mana / second drain for invis is nothing, you still regen mana while invis. before you get the item just means that you don't want to stay in invis for long, but you usually dont need to anyway.
As for placing the eyes, well on the test server I could still place them close to trees, just not right up against one. they added this change so that scouts couldnt block neutral camps by placing inbetween trees, but you can still block the top lane pull camp in such a way that they'd have to have invis detection to get to it. bottom lane's pull, they can always walk around find it, but it takes time and they might not know of a couple spots to search for.

dark lady's changes. slight nice improvements to what I consider to be a decently strong gank-style carry that depends on leveling fast more than most heroes, once her first 3 abilities are maxed she can easily kill low hp heroes on her own. her ult's pretty useful in team fights and you're able to take out one of their heroes in that duration w/o their allies being able to see it, but this is later in the game.
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 19:02:35
November 20 2009 17:50 GMT
#12642
edit: according to your ladder page you havent even tried dark lady once after she was substantially buffed, no wonder you dont like her

Testie I don't know why you think the Dark Lady does weak damage, with just a battlefury and enhanced marchers at lvl 10, when you use her first ability she does 236 damage. combine that with her 3rd ability (charging strikes), her strikes splash on every target, attacking the same creeps/heroes multiple times with her splash. the hero's already silenced now and she's attacking at +75% attack speed, with that much damage while silencing and if she has it, her Tainted Soul to slow him, which would allow me to kill most any hero.
Add in Elder Parasite and ANY hero is dead. with just phase and bfury at that level she can clear ancients/neutrals faster than any hero in the game, even ones that are more farmed. which reminds me of how awesome she would be at killing stacked ancients

wow yeah if you get Thunderclaw and Charging Strikes a group of enemies, she has a chance to proc the chain lightning on every target. can easily take off 500+ hp from heroes with just charging. the amount of aoe damage she has with that combo (with battlefury) is really insane, just on the initiate alone.

the main drawback is that after her 2 buffs are over (6 seconds each) she has to wait another 4 seconds to reapply them (3 for charging)
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Patrio
Profile Joined September 2007
Norway706 Posts
November 20 2009 18:27 GMT
#12643
Release that patch now!!!
Zerg Bunker
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 20 2009 18:52 GMT
#12644
I dont like the changes to the boots. I personally think last patch had the boots in a really perfect state. Everyone choose which they needed, and steamboots/phase were picked relatively evenly (even post haste was used by certain heroes). Now i don't see steamboots being used at all, and phase being used maybe a little more than steamboots. The new boots is all that will be used because now people can use those boots (faster cd, less inv space) and get something else in its old inventory space. I personally dislike the change =/.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 20 2009 19:00 GMT
#12645
why wouldnt carries/semi-carries use phase/steam?
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 20 2009 19:03 GMT
#12646
I dont like the changes to the boots. I personally think last patch had the boots in a really perfect state.
Agree 100%. The tradeoff between gank power and dps against survivability between phase and steamboots was perfect.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 20 2009 19:06 GMT
#12647
On November 21 2009 04:00 Zelniq wrote:
why wouldnt carries/semi-carries use phase/steam?




why would you get them early game now? Carries would get phase early to get that early advantage of attack speed/damage, or support would go steam for the boosted stats. Now neither are appealing when you can get a boot that is mana battery + boots, and key componant, armor!

So why would anyone get any boot but that one.
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
November 20 2009 19:11 GMT
#12648
Seriously the only reason dota gave the attack speed to the threads is because of a bug with the phase boots and procs. There's zero reason to make them like dota, they are fine as is.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 19:18:52
November 20 2009 19:17 GMT
#12649
Chu` apparently loves the dark lady too. gets those 2 core items (battlefury+thunderclaw) asap every game, after getting bottle / improved boots, soloing mid.
Taint Soul / Charge / Taint / Dark Blades / Taint / ulti / Taint/ Charge / Charge / Charge / Dark / Dark / Dark
his stats are pretty great with her but it's chu so duh

Click Customize Player Stats Display --> Dark Lady, then ignore the main stats those are bugged. all 20+ of individual game stats are on the left panel

http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/player_stats.php?aid=400734

ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Sammie
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada27 Posts
November 20 2009 19:21 GMT
#12650
You know what I think! I think that I haven't been here in a while!!! WHATS GOOD TL?

P.S whats good means whats up in "G" for all you non G's I m totally a "G"now FYI
If swimming makes you lose weight... then explain whales
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
November 20 2009 19:39 GMT
#12651
???

???
You're Gatorade?
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Sammie
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada27 Posts
November 20 2009 19:59 GMT
#12652
LOL Well its said by Lil wayne! Soo im Definitely "G"
If swimming makes you lose weight... then explain whales
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
November 20 2009 20:21 GMT
#12653
Come play HoN, G.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 20 2009 20:29 GMT
#12654
On November 21 2009 04:21 Sammie wrote:
You know what I think! I think that I haven't been here in a while!!! WHATS GOOD TL?

P.S whats good means whats up in "G" for all you non G's I m totally a "G"now FYI


G's don't end phrases with FYI , FYI .

In other news: all's good in the hood.

Besides those boot changes, dumb fuckers.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
November 20 2009 23:08 GMT
#12655
nigga y u gotta fuck wit mah kicks
jpopidol
Profile Joined November 2008
108 Posts
November 20 2009 23:28 GMT
#12656
fill me in, who is this chu`?
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
November 20 2009 23:39 GMT
#12657
On November 21 2009 08:28 jpopidol wrote:
fill me in, who is this chu`?


http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/players

He's currently #3 on the non-EM PSR ladder with a 2.67 / 1 / 2.29 K/D/A. Kinda makes him the super-carry of HoN, I guess. Looks like Testie's closing in fast, though, and with a better K/D/A ratio.
Sammie
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada27 Posts
November 20 2009 23:44 GMT
#12658
FYI G's can do whatever they like! Which means I can end ALL MY SENTENCES WITH FYI,

Dee to the EE to the EVAZTAYTA whats good nigga! you trolling!? pC out home skillet!

Does this Jpop Character not know who I am? Lol I'm pretty sure we played a dota game together wayy back!

pC Bladders!
If swimming makes you lose weight... then explain whales
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 23:53:49
November 20 2009 23:53 GMT
#12659
keep the thread clean plz

edit; mokyu!
@QxGDarkCell ._.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
November 20 2009 23:58 GMT
#12660
i need support to overthrow cold_bid
who's with me?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
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