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ICarrotU
Profile Joined February 2011
United States254 Posts
September 02 2011 04:29 GMT
#30621
On September 02 2011 12:10 Dead9 wrote:
i come bearing bad news

Patch 2.0.23
+ Show Spoiler +
Bastard Sword removed from the game
+ Show Spoiler +
Assassin's Shroud
-Bastard Sword replaced with a Broadsword
-Recipe cost increased by 200

Runed Axe
-Renamed to Runed Cleaver
-Bastard Sword replaced with a Broadsword
-Damage lowered from 65 to 55


dumb move imo, RC already stands for remote control



Trolling? This was implemented months ago, the current patch is 2.1.6.

Though I do agree, like many of the 'recent' changes it's dumb and unnecessary.
dotamaster
Profile Joined October 2010
104 Posts
September 02 2011 08:58 GMT
#30622
Maelk casting will be fun.

Not so sure about HoN's nyan cat.
Who shall win the Dota genre wars?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 02 2011 09:19 GMT
#30623
On September 02 2011 13:29 ICarrotU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 12:10 Dead9 wrote:
i come bearing bad news

Patch 2.0.23
+ Show Spoiler +
Bastard Sword removed from the game
+ Show Spoiler +
Assassin's Shroud
-Bastard Sword replaced with a Broadsword
-Recipe cost increased by 200

Runed Axe
-Renamed to Runed Cleaver
-Bastard Sword replaced with a Broadsword
-Damage lowered from 65 to 55


dumb move imo, RC already stands for remote control



Trolling? This was implemented months ago, the current patch is 2.1.6.

Though I do agree, like many of the 'recent' changes it's dumb and unnecessary.

another meaningful layer removed from the once-deep strategical value in item progression during the laning phase metagame
+ Show Spoiler +
everyone was talking about claymores
+ Show Spoiler +
but hon doesn't even have claymores
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
September 02 2011 09:21 GMT
#30624
Whatever happened to Honcast? They haven't posted anything in a week and have casted two Bo3's total since the 14th.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17872 Posts
September 02 2011 09:27 GMT
#30625
On September 02 2011 18:21 wonderwall wrote:
Whatever happened to Honcast? They haven't posted anything in a week and have casted two Bo3's total since the 14th.


Was wondering that myself. It seems like they started covering some tournaments (qualifiers etc.) and then everything went quiet.

XanderK mentioned something about this new project he's involved in called "MOBA Weekly" (hate the name).

Here it is:
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 09:36:01
September 02 2011 09:34 GMT
#30626
so i was watching this moba weekly show they're doing with commentators from dota, hon, lol and tobi goes off on kellymilkies or however you spell her name and it was a very interesting story. check this video out.

http://www.twitch.tv/complexity/b/294033285 starts rant at 1:36:20

here's some of the tldr
-left in a middle of a match in dota tournament and was control of the main camera for the audience.
-tobi doesnt see her as a professional caster.
-kelly broke up with moonglade the day of his first match in gsl.
-hug liquid huk on live stream before his first game.

haha just thought it was interesting and funny since i guess the dota community werent to fond of her also.

Edit: nice someone post it right above me but the sound is off sync on youtube version.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 02 2011 14:35 GMT
#30627
On September 02 2011 18:34 Diizzy wrote:
so i was watching this moba weekly show they're doing with commentators from dota, hon, lol and tobi goes off on kellymilkies or however you spell her name and it was a very interesting story. check this video out.

http://www.twitch.tv/complexity/b/294033285 starts rant at 1:36:20

here's some of the tldr
-left in a middle of a match in dota tournament and was control of the main camera for the audience.
-tobi doesnt see her as a professional caster.
-kelly broke up with moonglade the day of his first match in gsl.
-hug liquid huk on live stream before his first game.

haha just thought it was interesting and funny since i guess the dota community werent to fond of her also.

Edit: nice someone post it right above me but the sound is off sync on youtube version.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=197929&currentpage=27#529
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
September 02 2011 14:55 GMT
#30628
Just wanted to come in and say i pretty much had the worst game of life last night, lol. Farmed with KotF for 40 straight minutes just to realize that I couldn't solo 1 v 5 vs a farmed emerald warden despite having a refresher.
kiykiy
Profile Joined July 2009
233 Posts
September 02 2011 15:34 GMT
#30629
On September 02 2011 23:55 Sm3agol wrote:
Just wanted to come in and say i pretty much had the worst game of life last night, lol. Farmed with KotF for 40 straight minutes just to realize that I couldn't solo 1 v 5 vs a farmed emerald warden despite having a refresher.


Isn't that where you re supposed to make sure you have a buyback, use your team as bait and backdoor?
lalala
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
September 02 2011 15:47 GMT
#30630
Sometimes I watch casters of games and think I could do much better or you could pull someone randomly off the street and they would have better social awareness, etiquette, and voice qualities to cast. It makes it hugely refreshing when actually good casters are part of an event or show.

Then I watch things like MOBA weekly and wonder why the fuck anyone watches garbage like that. Like seriously, that's a show? Those people enjoy making that ' show' ? Not only that but tobiwan who I assume is going to want to go big with dota2 doesn't realize that moba is a retarded term originating from a pedo scammer?

The irony of him complaining about professionalism about kelly and then proceeding to dump everything he knows about her private life on a show where's he's supposed to talk about MOBAs anyway is hilarious. Add that to the fact that he just spent 4 days casting the first dota 2 international tournament and he hardly ever knows what the fuck is going on. You could pull a random pubber with a distinct accent off these boards or any dota community and they could replace tobi. He complains that kelly doesn't know basic shit about heroes or items and doesn't even listen to the other caster when in reality he is barely one step ahead of her in that he knows nothing about basic strategies, drafting, or how to do anything but be a play-by-play commentator.

Shit like this is why if I don't enjoy playing dota2 or find a nice group of people to play with regularly I'm gonna give casting a go. If I do that I'm sure I'll make mistakes of my own and have haters but honestly casters like tobi have zero desire in improving their casting craft and sit lazily in their ' who the fuck follows this guy ' viewerbase.

Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
September 02 2011 16:39 GMT
#30631
On September 03 2011 00:34 kiykiy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 23:55 Sm3agol wrote:
Just wanted to come in and say i pretty much had the worst game of life last night, lol. Farmed with KotF for 40 straight minutes just to realize that I couldn't solo 1 v 5 vs a farmed emerald warden despite having a refresher.


Isn't that where you re supposed to make sure you have a buyback, use your team as bait and backdoor?

I tried, but sadly, the other team always had tp's so whenever I'd start I'd get 3 people instantly tp'ing back. It dragged the game out longer, but all I accomplished was raxing one side.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 16:44:13
September 02 2011 16:43 GMT
#30632
On September 02 2011 23:55 Sm3agol wrote:
Just wanted to come in and say i pretty much had the worst game of life last night, lol. Farmed with KotF for 40 straight minutes just to realize that I couldn't solo 1 v 5 vs a farmed emerald warden because of having a refresher.

^^; ftfy
Meh.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 16:54:26
September 02 2011 16:51 GMT
#30633
On September 03 2011 01:43 xZiGGY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 23:55 Sm3agol wrote:
Just wanted to come in and say i pretty much had the worst game of life last night, lol. Farmed with KotF for 40 straight minutes just to realize that I couldn't solo 1 v 5 vs a farmed emerald warden because of having a refresher.

^^; ftfy

Eh, most likely. I was going for the epic teamfight destroyer, but by the time I got it, my team was too weak to do anything with a 10 second immobilization/stun/silence, lol.

But I'm bad and didn't know any better. Would a better KotF carry build be something more like elder parasite, HotBL, runed cleaver, and behemoths heart?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 17:18:03
September 02 2011 17:17 GMT
#30634
Kotf's ult doesn't stun or silence. Well, maybe there's a ministun.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
September 02 2011 17:27 GMT
#30635
Unless they changed it, there is not ministun. It's just a root.
Stuck.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
September 02 2011 17:31 GMT
#30636
On September 03 2011 02:27 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Unless they changed it, there is not ministun. It's just a root.

Revealed, Disarmed, Immobilized, 85 Magic damage per second.
Notes

Interrupts channeling spells.
While Root is cleansable, it applies the effect to (already) Magic Immune targets.



From the Hon wiki.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 02 2011 17:32 GMT
#30637
On September 03 2011 02:27 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Unless they changed it, there is not ministun. It's just a root.

It interrupts channeling spells, but doesn't ministun. (This may have been changed in the remake though)

Also, on carry keeper :
Carry keeper tends to involve going alch bones mock refresher heart demonic shiva's, fitting in boots of travel at some point in there. It's really not very good (in my opinion). Push heavy or initiation heavy keeper is a lot more useful earlier.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
September 02 2011 17:42 GMT
#30638
here's my tree build:
ring of teacher
mana potions
chalice
sol bulwurk
boots
mock
demonic

with this build you can push lanes really fast. i hate seeing alch bones after the nerf its just a dumb investment i think. you can maintain the same gpm with stacking and microing your frogs.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 02 2011 17:47 GMT
#30639
Imo the most important thing is once u hit 6 keep an eye out for scenarios where u can get a good ult off to get kills or save someone. Try to not let such a powerful, very short cd ult just be wasted while u afk shift a into neuts when you could be helping your team enourmously
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 02 2011 18:10 GMT
#30640
On September 03 2011 02:47 FinestHour wrote:
Imo the most important thing is once u hit 6 keep an eye out for scenarios where u can get a good ult off to get kills or save someone. Try to not let such a powerful, very short cd ult just be wasted while u afk shift a into neuts when you could be helping your team enourmously

That's any jungle all jungles should carry tps and have either stiders or ghost marchers to reach team fights when it looks like one developed
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