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Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
July 25 2011 10:59 GMT
#28381
You gotta get yourself some thick skin sir, thats pretty standard affair, maybe throw in some counter troll for funsies, make some fun from a bad situation
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 25 2011 11:27 GMT
#28382
On July 25 2011 19:59 Lyter wrote:
You gotta get yourself some thick skin sir, thats pretty standard affair, maybe throw in some counter troll for funsies, make some fun from a bad situation


With the amount of games ive already played my skin is pretty thick.

Dealing with bad teammates is no problem. I can do that forever.

Dealing with people that blame everyone but themselves? The amount of arrogance it takes to believe you don't do anything wrong ever is simply staggering when you think about it. Sometimes you just gotta vent.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
July 25 2011 13:25 GMT
#28383
pretty sure the majority of the people who act like that are just trolling
Meh.
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
July 25 2011 13:27 GMT
#28384
On July 25 2011 22:25 xZiGGY wrote:
pretty sure the majority of the people who act like that are just trolling


rofl no. They actualy beleave that they are good, doesnt matter that they feed 0-10, its not their fault, you didnt say miss, even tho you clearly said, you dont ward even tho you play carry, they dont give a fuck, they are that bad.
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
July 25 2011 13:36 GMT
#28385
in defense of people who complain about no miss calls, often when people say "mid was called" ill scroll up and see this:

ss

That tells you literally nothing and is basically a useless waste of keyboard fingering. not only is it easy to miss in the chat just by being little, it also gives you zero information. Which hero is missing, or are they both missing? did they run from the river to go to the rune or did u see them go into the forest? if only one hero which hero is it?

its annoying as fuck when you die mid because you have teammates too bad to bother to inform you, and then blame you for dying mid when they typed "ss"
Adonai bless
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 25 2011 13:37 GMT
#28386
map awareness is hard imo.
Get it by your hands...
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
July 25 2011 13:47 GMT
#28387
If your concentrating on killing creeps, denying, focusing on rune control, trying to harrass your mid opponent effectively to force him to use regen or even leave the lane, ferrying courier items, you dont always have the time to realise when 2 dots on the minimap have not been visible for a short while.

I couldn't tell if your comment was sarcastic, if it wasnt then, yeah, map awareness is hard.
Adonai bless
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 25 2011 14:10 GMT
#28388
On July 25 2011 22:47 XeliN wrote:
If your concentrating on killing creeps, denying, focusing on rune control, trying to harrass your mid opponent effectively to force him to use regen or even leave the lane, ferrying courier items, you dont always have the time to realise when 2 dots on the minimap have not been visible for a short while.

I couldn't tell if your comment was sarcastic, if it wasnt then, yeah, map awareness is hard.

protip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
did you know that runes spawn every two minutes. EVERY TWO MINUTES??????????
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 25 2011 14:32 GMT
#28389
On July 25 2011 22:47 XeliN wrote:
If your concentrating on killing creeps, denying, focusing on rune control, trying to harrass your mid opponent effectively to force him to use regen or even leave the lane, ferrying courier items, you dont always have the time to realise when 2 dots on the minimap have not been visible for a short while.

I couldn't tell if your comment was sarcastic, if it wasnt then, yeah, map awareness is hard.


Not really hard in pubs, it's actually quite simple, you read the idiots in your lane, if they turn to go on you, you can safely bet someone is coming, if not, you can always either keep running or turn to go on them.

Otherwise, just pay attention to the colored dots, not hard. There's always a small break in the action for you to peak. It's just so much easier to read the opposing heroes in the lane though.

Either way, its about a second to peak at your minimap, not a million years.
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 25 2011 14:37 GMT
#28390
On July 25 2011 23:32 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 22:47 XeliN wrote:
If your concentrating on killing creeps, denying, focusing on rune control, trying to harrass your mid opponent effectively to force him to use regen or even leave the lane, ferrying courier items, you dont always have the time to realise when 2 dots on the minimap have not been visible for a short while.

I couldn't tell if your comment was sarcastic, if it wasnt then, yeah, map awareness is hard.


Not really hard in pubs, it's actually quite simple, you read the idiots in your lane, if they turn to go on you, you can safely bet someone is coming, if not, you can always either keep running or turn to go on them.

Otherwise, just pay attention to the colored dots, not hard. There's always a small break in the action for you to peak. It's just so much easier to read the opposing heroes in the lane though.

Either way, its about a second to peak at your minimap, not a million years.

also not all heroes can gank effectively so you can direct your attention towards lanes that have effective gankers
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
July 25 2011 14:44 GMT
#28391
you should probably ward if no one else will even if youre carry, it sucks and is not very fulfilling but will probably increase your teams chances of winning in most cases. :/ But then counterwarding ontop of that is too expensive and god help you, reasoning with pub players is something I gave up on a long time ago. (yes I am a pub player, yes my advice is terrible :O)
Meh.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 25 2011 14:45 GMT
#28392
On July 25 2011 23:37 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 23:32 Judicator wrote:
On July 25 2011 22:47 XeliN wrote:
If your concentrating on killing creeps, denying, focusing on rune control, trying to harrass your mid opponent effectively to force him to use regen or even leave the lane, ferrying courier items, you dont always have the time to realise when 2 dots on the minimap have not been visible for a short while.

I couldn't tell if your comment was sarcastic, if it wasnt then, yeah, map awareness is hard.


Not really hard in pubs, it's actually quite simple, you read the idiots in your lane, if they turn to go on you, you can safely bet someone is coming, if not, you can always either keep running or turn to go on them.

Otherwise, just pay attention to the colored dots, not hard. There's always a small break in the action for you to peak. It's just so much easier to read the opposing heroes in the lane though.

Either way, its about a second to peak at your minimap, not a million years.

also not all heroes can gank effectively so you can direct your attention towards lanes that have effective gankers


Also true, but pubbies throw 4 people out there and just run around leaving the one hero they should gank, unganked.
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 25 2011 14:50 GMT
#28393
On July 25 2011 23:45 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 23:37 rabidch wrote:
On July 25 2011 23:32 Judicator wrote:
On July 25 2011 22:47 XeliN wrote:
If your concentrating on killing creeps, denying, focusing on rune control, trying to harrass your mid opponent effectively to force him to use regen or even leave the lane, ferrying courier items, you dont always have the time to realise when 2 dots on the minimap have not been visible for a short while.

I couldn't tell if your comment was sarcastic, if it wasnt then, yeah, map awareness is hard.


Not really hard in pubs, it's actually quite simple, you read the idiots in your lane, if they turn to go on you, you can safely bet someone is coming, if not, you can always either keep running or turn to go on them.

Otherwise, just pay attention to the colored dots, not hard. There's always a small break in the action for you to peak. It's just so much easier to read the opposing heroes in the lane though.

Either way, its about a second to peak at your minimap, not a million years.

also not all heroes can gank effectively so you can direct your attention towards lanes that have effective gankers


Also true, but pubbies throw 4 people out there and just run around leaving the one hero they should gank, unganked.

i love it when there are 5 people bottom 3 minutes in and they all dive for 1 hero in the forest below the sentinel tower
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
July 25 2011 15:15 GMT
#28394
On July 25 2011 23:32 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 22:47 XeliN wrote:
If your concentrating on killing creeps, denying, focusing on rune control, trying to harrass your mid opponent effectively to force him to use regen or even leave the lane, ferrying courier items, you dont always have the time to realise when 2 dots on the minimap have not been visible for a short while.

I couldn't tell if your comment was sarcastic, if it wasnt then, yeah, map awareness is hard.


Not really hard in pubs, it's actually quite simple, you read the idiots in your lane, if they turn to go on you, you can safely bet someone is coming, if not, you can always either keep running or turn to go on them.

Otherwise, just pay attention to the colored dots, not hard. There's always a small break in the action for you to peak. It's just so much easier to read the opposing heroes in the lane though.

Either way, its about a second to peak at your minimap, not a million years.


this. its really not that difficult to keep an eye on the minimap.

and analogy i like to use is driving and glancing at the rear mirror. I do this fairly often, and am so used to it i do it unconsciously. the trick is to just glance for a second, read what you see quickly and look back to the front and focus on driving. same applies to hon/dota. quick glances at minimap to see what's missing or what's going on.

How do certain teams counter-gank extremely well by tping to towers? they always have an eye on the minimap
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
July 25 2011 16:14 GMT
#28395
usually people get tunnel vision when they are slightly losing their lane or are about to initiate a gank attempt, because in those situations 100% attention to the task at hand is optimal. this is when a miss call can come in handy.
a good rule of thumb when solo queuing tho is to never rely on pub allies for anything.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 25 2011 16:24 GMT
#28396
On July 25 2011 22:25 xZiGGY wrote:
pretty sure the majority of the people who act like that are just trolling


i wish they were
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Nancomerian
Profile Joined March 2010
Serbia18 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 21:18:21
July 25 2011 21:13 GMT
#28397
On July 25 2011 23:44 xZiGGY wrote:
you should probably ward if no one else will even if youre carry, it sucks and is not very fulfilling but will probably increase your teams chances of winning in most cases. :/ But then counterwarding ontop of that is too expensive and god help you, reasoning with pub players is something I gave up on a long time ago. (yes I am a pub player, yes my advice is terrible :O)



I will quote you next time you spam me ziggy! :D

but on side note, you can always keep an eye on other 3 toons ^^ not that hard
SSDD
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 21:31:26
July 25 2011 21:24 GMT
#28398
On July 25 2011 22:47 XeliN wrote:
If your concentrating on killing creeps, denying, focusing on rune control, trying to harrass your mid opponent effectively to force him to use regen or even leave the lane, ferrying courier items, you dont always have the time to realise when 2 dots on the minimap have not been visible for a short while.

I couldn't tell if your comment was sarcastic, if it wasnt then, yeah, map awareness is hard.


All that combined is still about half as much of the shit you need to take care of while playing BW and still have constant map awareness.

Now I say this comment assuming you've played BW or I guess... SC2...but the map awareness in HoN is a lot easier to handle. It takes me less than a blink of an eye to glance at the map and see if all the colors are accounted for. Maybe it's just because of BW that I find it a joke to do in comparison. Dunno. I can't count the number of times I am saying GET BACK into the mic as I watch an enemy PASS A WARD to gank someone...and then they do exactly that...

While it is annoying when people just say "SS" and don't give shit for info...what it does do is give you a queue that someone is indeed missing and that it might be prudent to play a little bit more cautiously if not actually look at your map.

Regardless I learned the hard way that in a pub game you can rely on no one but yourself. Luckily the game gives you the tools necessary to do that.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
July 26 2011 01:53 GMT
#28399
Watch 4 MSi games; see a flux, a parasite and a revenant appearance pretty awesome strats coming up. Big congrats to DWi getting picked up by coL as well =D
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Kurai
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada167 Posts
July 26 2011 03:23 GMT
#28400
would anyone mind teaching me and 3 friends how to play HoN? >.< we played LoL but never dota and we get completely wrecked
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