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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
November 05 2021 12:13 GMT
#121
Yeah I do not think I have had this much fun with a game in very long time. SC2 became too stressful, AOE4 is just a pleasure to play, win or lose.

I also like that the game is more focused and macro, strategy and tactics and less on micro and reaction speed. It also feels like it is easier to comeback from mistakes compared to SC2.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
November 05 2021 22:22 GMT
#122
This sequal kind of makes me wish they made a sequal to Empire Earth
John 15:13
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6204 Posts
November 06 2021 15:22 GMT
#123
Does AoE4 have a forum or something like TeamLiquid? I'm enjoying it a lot as well.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-06 18:07:37
November 06 2021 18:07 GMT
#124
On November 07 2021 00:22 RvB wrote:
Does AoE4 have a forum or something like TeamLiquid? I'm enjoying it a lot as well.


There is a forum although it is more like a mix between bnet and teamliquid:
https://forums.ageofempires.com/c/age-of-empires-iv/age-of-empires-iv-discuss/31

But if you want better discussions I think reddit is the best option for now:
https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe4/
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11799 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-06 23:32:54
November 06 2021 23:32 GMT
#125
I think the pace of the game is the thing that they got right. Pretty much everything else is decent to good with room for improvements. Think it has a lot of potential if they make good choices going forward, it is already fun. Though I've only played the Norman campaign and the Art of War segments that teaches you mechanics.

Watched ~10h of high level play and apart from early game that is also enjoyable. Rus seems the most fun to watch since they have mechanics that kick in from the start.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51431 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-07 04:24:20
November 07 2021 04:21 GMT
#126
if anyone hasn't been following competitive aoe4, the qualifiers for the first big tournament (online, 20k total prize) just finished

https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/GENESIS

the 3 non-aoe players to qualify were marinelord, vortix and lucifron. while vortix and lucifron aren't active in sc2/wc3 anymore, marinelord is in the dreamhack finals this season which is insane.

edit: also looks like the tl.net equivalent for aoe is https://www.aoezone.net/forums/
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 07 2021 05:06 GMT
#127
Yeah there were some good games, very fun to watch the qualifiers. Looking forward to watching the ro8 next weekend.
When I think of something else, something will go here
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6204 Posts
November 07 2021 08:13 GMT
#128
Watched a couple of games and was fun but France looks really strong. They're able to put on early pressure with the knights without their macro suffering due to the eco bonusses. The early pressure is very strong too because the knights heal up and they kill workers easily.

thanks for the links GTR and MockHamill
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 07 2021 09:08 GMT
#129
Now it's bo5 though, I mean bo3 with France banned, it should be better.

Recommended games :
+ Show Spoiler +
Viper vs Simtom, French vs Mongols + Show Spoiler +
Great opening from Simtom to deny viper's gold and gain a huge lead

Kasva vs tatoh game 3 Abbasid vs French + Show Spoiler +
30+ minutes on age 2 as abbasid, back and forth

Marinelord vs Probe game 3 English mirror + Show Spoiler +
boring citadel map into huge lategame clash for the rest of the game



Can't find links though, you'll probably have to browse twitch
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 07 2021 09:29 GMT
#130
thanks for the quick writeup and notes!
passive quaranstream fan
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-08 00:48:43
November 08 2021 00:43 GMT
#131
[image loading]

I think I like this game
Still can't be sure though, need another 500 hours to investigate further.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10123 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-08 03:25:03
November 08 2021 03:24 GMT
#132
On November 05 2021 21:13 MockHamill wrote:
Yeah I do not think I have had this much fun with a game in very long time. SC2 became too stressful, AOE4 is just a pleasure to play, win or lose.

I also like that the game is more focused and macro, strategy and tactics and less on micro and reaction speed. It also feels like it is easier to comeback from mistakes compared to SC2.

I definitely get the appeal of some of the QoL changes and simplifications. It certainly feels like it caters to a modern gaming audience, both veteran and newbies, for different reasons.

At the same time, the production speed and lack of projectile mechanics makes it feel like too great a departure from AoE2 for my liking, much like SC2 felt compared to BW. I think I'm biased because I may be addicted to the RT aspect of RTS more than the S, and AoE4 balanced the two elements in a way that doesn't appeal to me as much as 2 but it's still a solid release and hats off to Microsoft for continuing to support DE in a way that outshines Blizzard and RM.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51431 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-08 06:51:06
November 08 2021 06:50 GMT
#133
if there are any aussie/nz'ers lurking here, zero effort (ANZ wc3 community i'm a part of) are running a $200 cup this sunday afternoon. i'll be helping out with casting and admin so the more numbers for it the more we're willing to put money in for future tournaments.

https://challonge.com/AoZEWeekly1
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 08 2021 22:30 GMT
#134
I think the game could be just a bit faster and the average game time a bit shorter. Less RNG with the resources would be nice as well.

But overall I really enjoy the game and it's a blast playing with friends right now, as well as seeing people from all RTS communities coming together to play and stream this game .

The civs feel really unique and are a lof of fun.

Great job Relic!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2952 Posts
November 09 2021 08:32 GMT
#135
On November 07 2021 18:08 nojok wrote:
Now it's bo5 though, I mean bo3 with France banned, it should be better.

Recommended games :
+ Show Spoiler +
Viper vs Simtom, French vs Mongols + Show Spoiler +
Great opening from Simtom to deny viper's gold and gain a huge lead

Kasva vs tatoh game 3 Abbasid vs French + Show Spoiler +
30+ minutes on age 2 as abbasid, back and forth

Marinelord vs Probe game 3 English mirror + Show Spoiler +
boring citadel map into huge lategame clash for the rest of the game



Can't find links though, you'll probably have to browse twitch


The tournament was fun, even if the balancing issues got quite obvious rather early on. With Bo5 coming up, the tournament should be even better. I hope to see some other match-ups soon enough. And maybe even some neglected Civs.

Watching the tournament I was wondering though: Koreans are (for some people in)famous for dominating the RTS scene. Is there even such a thing as a Korean AoE scene?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10123 Posts
November 09 2021 13:27 GMT
#136
On November 09 2021 17:32 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2021 18:08 nojok wrote:
Now it's bo5 though, I mean bo3 with France banned, it should be better.

Recommended games :
+ Show Spoiler +
Viper vs Simtom, French vs Mongols + Show Spoiler +
Great opening from Simtom to deny viper's gold and gain a huge lead

Kasva vs tatoh game 3 Abbasid vs French + Show Spoiler +
30+ minutes on age 2 as abbasid, back and forth

Marinelord vs Probe game 3 English mirror + Show Spoiler +
boring citadel map into huge lategame clash for the rest of the game



Can't find links though, you'll probably have to browse twitch


The tournament was fun, even if the balancing issues got quite obvious rather early on. With Bo5 coming up, the tournament should be even better. I hope to see some other match-ups soon enough. And maybe even some neglected Civs.

Watching the tournament I was wondering though: Koreans are (for some people in)famous for dominating the RTS scene. Is there even such a thing as a Korean AoE scene?

Koreans were very strong in the early AoE2 scene, back when almost no one knew what they were doing, but AFAIK the scene died out rather quickly. Brood War was far more popular, and there were many options for RTS games over there that we didn't really dive into in the West.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 09 2021 15:04 GMT
#137
On November 09 2021 17:32 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2021 18:08 nojok wrote:
Now it's bo5 though, I mean bo3 with France banned, it should be better.

Recommended games :
+ Show Spoiler +
Viper vs Simtom, French vs Mongols + Show Spoiler +
Great opening from Simtom to deny viper's gold and gain a huge lead

Kasva vs tatoh game 3 Abbasid vs French + Show Spoiler +
30+ minutes on age 2 as abbasid, back and forth

Marinelord vs Probe game 3 English mirror + Show Spoiler +
boring citadel map into huge lategame clash for the rest of the game



Can't find links though, you'll probably have to browse twitch


The tournament was fun, even if the balancing issues got quite obvious rather early on. With Bo5 coming up, the tournament should be even better. I hope to see some other match-ups soon enough. And maybe even some neglected Civs.

Watching the tournament I was wondering though: Koreans are (for some people in)famous for dominating the RTS scene. Is there even such a thing as a Korean AoE scene?


Not for a long time. I do remember in AOE3, the best player was a korean player named iamgrunt, but that was between 2005-2008. Don't think any Koreans have popped up since then that I know of.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10123 Posts
November 09 2021 15:33 GMT
#138
On November 10 2021 00:04 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2021 17:32 Swisslink wrote:
On November 07 2021 18:08 nojok wrote:
Now it's bo5 though, I mean bo3 with France banned, it should be better.

Recommended games :
+ Show Spoiler +
Viper vs Simtom, French vs Mongols + Show Spoiler +
Great opening from Simtom to deny viper's gold and gain a huge lead

Kasva vs tatoh game 3 Abbasid vs French + Show Spoiler +
30+ minutes on age 2 as abbasid, back and forth

Marinelord vs Probe game 3 English mirror + Show Spoiler +
boring citadel map into huge lategame clash for the rest of the game



Can't find links though, you'll probably have to browse twitch


The tournament was fun, even if the balancing issues got quite obvious rather early on. With Bo5 coming up, the tournament should be even better. I hope to see some other match-ups soon enough. And maybe even some neglected Civs.

Watching the tournament I was wondering though: Koreans are (for some people in)famous for dominating the RTS scene. Is there even such a thing as a Korean AoE scene?


Not for a long time. I do remember in AOE3, the best player was a korean player named iamgrunt, but that was between 2005-2008. Don't think any Koreans have popped up since then that I know of.

He also won the huge pot at Microsoft's AoE2 tournament in 2001:

https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/International_Tournament/2001
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
November 09 2021 16:49 GMT
#139
On November 03 2021 21:54 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2021 21:27 Latham wrote:
On November 03 2021 21:19 Harris1st wrote:
Thanks for the tip with Xbox Game Pass! Downloaded it yesterday and played the first mission (introduction).
Really need to find the option to change language. German is unbearable.
Do you guys hotkey your town center? Because pressing "H" you always jump there and I just want to produce workers mid combat like I'm used to with Starcraft


I set "cycle through TCs" to tilde ( ` )... it's IMO one of the most important hotkeys in the game. you HAVE TO constantly make workers especially in the early/mid game when you're on only 1 TC, maybe making a 2nd. Once you're up to 3+ some lapse in macro can be permitted, because with 3 you'll catch up either way.

[image loading]


Cool, I don't think I know half the hotkeys available. I was just binding TCs to 5.



Should keep grouping them to 5, I use to bind key to cycle through TC to make workers, that was not a great idea at all.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51431 Posts
November 09 2021 20:34 GMT
#140
epic game i casted last night, just shows what potential the game has.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1200363824?t=02h11m24s
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