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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On May 21 2021 07:38 Southlight wrote: + Show Spoiler + I have Eula. I routinely do 150-250k damage with her burst and I haven't even bothered setting up proper artifacts/team comps for her. This makes up for Eula's inability to convert her autoattacks, so while she does a good 5-15k on each hit, it holds no cup of tea to Hu Tao's 50k damage charge attack spam during her skill uptime (which shits out overall superior damage numbers than Eula on maximized CD ults with more reliability = why Hu Tao is broken-tier for DPS and Eula is, as Tenten said, "fine"). Here is my mostly F2P friend's Eula. 325k damage. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/4rcuF7y.png) This is how her kit works. You can ignore that her ult is the vast majority of her damage and act like she can compete with other characters while ignoring it, or you eventually you will accept that she is simply flat-out inferior to even Razor without that ult connecting. You can complain about how unreliable the ult is do to the difficulty of landing it, but trying to argue that this ginormous nuke is not what her kit is about is ridiculous. Also, no one said 30, we said realistic, which should be around 12 stacks at with everything running off cooldown (burst into attacks and consuming two brands). 724*(1+(.4824*12)) = 4915% physical Granted talent 10, but this shit scales like crazy along with the phys res down from the brand (which lasts 7 seconds). I will say I personally forgot the skill itself does damage that doesn't scale with itself, so that's a 400->2000 scale off the initial hit that I miscalculated. Either way, close to 5000% remains a bigger nuke than anyone else in the game, including Mona. And it doesn't force you to stop autoattacking. So yes, we should ignore this crazy huge hit and act like it's not a major part of her kit. I agree. I hear Mona is really good without her ult too. Your calculation is totally wrong. You shittalk about about cold hard maths, make qoutes about random actors, but apparently can't do the maths yourself. You've gone and taken impressions from day 1 entertainment videos as gospel and are so rude about it, instead of forming opinions yourself. Where do you even get .4824 from? In fact where are you getting all your numbers from? Lv 10 Lightfall base damage is 725.45% not 724. Then each stack is 148.24% which would be 0.2043. I guess you are applying all sources of resistance shred but it's not going to double stackdamage in most cases. But anything that shreds phys resistance will also affect autoattacks. I've been able to consistently get 13 stacks. I used 30 stacks to demonstrate how impossible your claim of 6000% was. So realistically Lightfall damage is 735.45+148.24*13=2652.68% Which is basically half of whatever you worked out. I seem to get 250k in abyss F12, which seems good, but that's critting and hitting, whilst spending 20 seconds for the cooldown just autoattacking would do average 180k damage anyways. Vast majority of damage the ultimate it is not, unless you get a specialised team just for it. I never said it is not a major part of her kit. Stop making things up. ____________________________________________ I am guessing Harris1st was massing the folding screen from the get go. I visited a few friends and they had what looked like a server room. Apparently it's the best way to get as much adeptal energy whilst not reaching load limit so they just stick them in a room. Had one guy who had two rooms of the stuff. I've always assumed 20k was the max and all the realms stuff was shared. Is there an Adeptal Mirror rank 5 btw or does it stop at 4? So what do people think about the new event Misty Dungeon? It seems to be a way to advertise lesser used characters, except Sucrose and Diona is on there, which is odd but I guess Diona was put on there before they gave her out. And it's not like you can get those characters easily if you want them anyways. Would had been nice if it was Rosario and Yan Fei instead so we can play around with them out in a more natural setting. They should let you playtest characters like this more often. Shame that all the chracters are the same for each trial though. And the ranged trail has a challenge to defeat a cerrtain number of opponents without letting them get in range, only that you don't know what that range is. Thanks Miyoho. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7021 Posts
On May 24 2021 02:02 Dangermousecatdog wrote: I am guessing Harris1st was massing the folding screen from the get go. I visited a few friends and they had what looked like a server room. Apparently it's the best way to get as much adeptal energy whilst not reaching load limit so they just stick them in a room. Had one guy who had two rooms of the stuff. I've always assumed 20k was the max and all the realms stuff was shared. Is there an Adeptal Mirror rank 5 btw or does it stop at 4? So what do people think about the new event Misty Dungeon? It seems to be a way to advertise lesser used characters, except Sucrose and Diona is on there, which is odd but I guess Diona was put on there before they gave her out. And it's not like you can get those characters easily if you want them anyways. Would had been nice if it was Rosario and Yan Fei instead so we can play around with them out in a more natural setting. They should let you playtest characters like this more often. Shame that all the chracters are the same for each trial though. And the ranged trail has a challenge to defeat a cerrtain number of opponents without letting them get in range, only that you don't know what that range is. Thanks Miyoho. Purely from the number of recipes, there is no Mirror No5. I can tell you in 2 days for sure, then I have the 20k coins done  I did quite some folding screens, but mostly the birch fence thingy and lion statues EDIT: I have 10k adeptal energy purely with fences ^^ I really like the new event. Found my inner Keqing with this event. She is so fun to play, I really want her now lol A bit too easy though. Could be quite a bit harder, especially the "goals. I got 95% of them by accident on the first playthrough. Did have to do the healing one twice cause my shields were too good and I couldn't quite heal the required amount because of the missing damage taken All in all a nice event too get people out of their comfort zone IMO | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Where do you even get .4824 from? In fact where are you getting all your numbers from? Lv 10 Lightfall base damage is 725.45% not 724. Then each stack is 148.24% which would be 0.2043. I guess you are applying all sources of resistance shred but it's not going to double stackdamage in most cases. But anything that shreds phys resistance will also affect autoattacks. I've been able to consistently get 13 stacks. I used 30 stacks to demonstrate how impossible your claim of 6000% was. So realistically Lightfall damage is 735.45+148.24*13=2652.68% lol. 20k in two days jeez. I think I'll hit rank 9 in ~two days but probably won't hit 20k until later in the week/near the weekend. I noticed I leapfrogged spazer a week or so ago in terms of pure energy but I think that's because the server racks are nice for energy/load but not necessarily for total energy... so me just making random plants and attempting to build a wall (expensive/time-consuming like sheesh) seemed to be more overall energy. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On May 24 2021 02:02 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Your calculation is totally wrong. You shittalk about about cold hard maths, make qoutes about random actors, but apparently can't do the maths yourself. You've gone and taken impressions from day 1 entertainment videos as gospel and are so rude about it, instead of forming opinions yourself. Where do you even get .4824 from? In fact where are you getting all your numbers from? Lv 10 Lightfall base damage is 725.45% not 724. Then each stack is 148.24% which would be 0.2043. I guess you are applying all sources of resistance shred but it's not going to double stackdamage in most cases. But anything that shreds phys resistance will also affect autoattacks. I've been able to consistently get 13 stacks. I used 30 stacks to demonstrate how impossible your claim of 6000% was. So realistically Lightfall damage is 735.45+148.24*13=2652.68% Which is basically half of whatever you worked out. I seem to get 250k in abyss F12, which seems good, but that's critting and hitting, whilst spending 20 seconds for the cooldown just autoattacking would do average 180k damage anyways. Vast majority of damage the ultimate it is not, unless you get a specialised team just for it. I never said it is not a major part of her kit. Stop making things up. ____________________________________________ I am guessing Harris1st was massing the folding screen from the get go. I visited a few friends and they had what looked like a server room. Apparently it's the best way to get as much adeptal energy whilst not reaching load limit so they just stick them in a room. Had one guy who had two rooms of the stuff. I've always assumed 20k was the max and all the realms stuff was shared. Is there an Adeptal Mirror rank 5 btw or does it stop at 4? So what do people think about the new event Misty Dungeon? It seems to be a way to advertise lesser used characters, except Sucrose and Diona is on there, which is odd but I guess Diona was put on there before they gave her out. And it's not like you can get those characters easily if you want them anyways. Would had been nice if it was Rosario and Yan Fei instead so we can play around with them out in a more natural setting. They should let you playtest characters like this more often. Shame that all the chracters are the same for each trial though. And the ranged trail has a challenge to defeat a cerrtain number of opponents without letting them get in range, only that you don't know what that range is. Thanks Miyoho. Don't care about this Eula debate but if people come off as rude to you its probably because they are annoyed that you condescended them. You do that in almost *every* post you make when you disagree with someone. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/cjzoLJt.png) If it spawns over there again I've got no clue, man. I can't even see where the first island is anymore. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On May 24 2021 14:32 Slaughter wrote: lolDon't care about this Eula debate but if people come off as rude to you its probably because they are annoyed that you condescended them. You do that in almost *every* post you make when you disagree with someone. On May 24 2021 07:09 Harris1st wrote: Ah so you get the adeptal energy from the outside and conserve the inside space. Clever. I also got rank 8 today. It's nice that everything furniture is replicated again but because it only considers the highest adeptal energy I guess it means you should make one realm where you make it the way you want to and have another made how you would like it. Unless how you like it reaches 20k adeptal energy anyways. it might just be a preference, but playing around with the furnishing sets for the 10 different furnishing set rewards makes me aware of how much better the Liyue furniture sets look. Or it could just be that Liyue stuff just look more expensive and exotic to Westerners. Might be the reverse in China.Purely from the number of recipes, there is no Mirror No5. I can tell you in 2 days for sure, then I have the 20k coins done I did quite some folding screens, but mostly the birch fence thingy and lion statues EDIT: I have 10k adeptal energy purely with fences ^^ I really like the new event. Found my inner Keqing with this event. She is so fun to play, I really want her now lol A bit too easy though. Could be quite a bit harder, especially the "goals. I got 95% of them by accident on the first playthrough. Did have to do the healing one twice cause my shields were too good and I couldn't quite heal the required amount because of the missing damage taken All in all a nice event too get people out of their comfort zone IMO I already have Keqing, can confirm she is fun and simple to play with, even if on the power side she is lower than most other dps characters. What I rather like is Albedo. Damage might seem a bit on the low side but has comfortable conditions for the AoE damage boost. Characters move out of damage circle? Just switch and reapply. Mona is the character I really want from that event. Though replaying Mona reminds me of how wierd her sprint and dash is. Also playing it reminds me that I really should build up my Sucrose even if she is at C0. Basically the only easy grouping/disabling character I have. EM is supposed to have increase effects for Electro-Charged, Superconduct, Overloaded, Swirl, and Shatter sometime afterall. As well as self infused anemo is plain useful dealing damage to shields which abyss seems to be chockful off in the future. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7021 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Latham
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I see Kazuha and that giant Samurai monster to fight. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Slaughter
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Spazer
Canada8033 Posts
On June 02 2021 07:33 Slaughter wrote: Not a good sign that I am more annoyed with or can't be bothered to do (tea pot) a lot of the recent content. Like this Hilichurl thing, so boring and just adds things to do. This event is pretty bad. Having to search for the right hilichurl to talk to is a waste of time. Doing the actual task is busywork, but it's typically no worse than normal commissions. Then you have to change the time and fight the Wei, which is normally fine... but they made it 10x tankier for no reason. Overall, it just feels incredibly pointless. Today's was particularly dumb because they make you fight 2 hydro and 1 electric fatui. It turns the encounter into an annoying.dps check in the open world. At least we're on track for more Dragonspine-like content. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Odd. Hoping for fun Midway Atoll stuff next week, at least. Exactly when PSO2NG releases though, lol. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
As it is I think the event was pleasant. It's not terribly fustrating like the food delivery event. You get to wander around various locations on the map. Takes 10 mins or less per day. The only problem I think is that you have to find the right hilichurl in a rather large area, which is unneccessary and to select the right time to find Wei, which is just an annoying. | ||
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Latham
9568 Posts
Up close the piece of shit has only AoE attacks and from range he casts these seals that spawn either right under you or predict the direction you're running towards. Not to mention the ridiculous AoEs they have. Takes like 2 full sprints to get out of them, and you'll be damn lucky to even get the timing right and not get hit by the aftershocks. Also, if his attacks hit you they put a seal on your character that continuously damages you, kinda like Childe but worse because the barriers around the arena don't dispel this seal... Definitely the worst part of the week to have to fight this gigantic piece of shit. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Will defer to Spazer - I think he's overly tiresome when you don't have sufficient amounts of shields (ie. Diona) and it thus de-facto forces character requirements, which was my worry from the get-go with shields (very binary mechanic WRT damage). Dodging the AOE itself hasn't seemed that bad though, just requires timing iframes correctly on the one or two hits prior to get out of range. I think it makes the fight a slog, though I know you can technically also just iframe out of all 3 hits while DPSing as long as your stamina uptime is fine. I know every single attack can be iframe'd without running out of stamina. Not really a good video for the fight itself because obviously iframing everything isn't what you want to do be doing on a weekly basis, but does show the fight isn't entirely BS from a mechanics perspective, just... not brainless. I just don't know I feel about lack of brainlessness on a weekly kill (so says the guy playing Grey Raven lel). | ||
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