On August 15 2007 11:46 taDa! wrote: Bill, its a waste of time to explain certain things to certain individuals because they simply don't understand any better. Only time will tell if they can actually grow a brain.
True, but I think it's useful when some guys in this topic might not understand why his understanding is so flawed .
I really just need a controller, it's too easy to do mixups on the keyboard, even though if I know what should I be doing...or well, I could play a character like Ken. (for some reason, I don't mix up shoryuuken and hadouken, or not as much as I thought I would) But Makoto is so stylish with that grab -> hayate combo <3
Edit: Did that like twice today (didn't play much) and I felt like a pro!
Hey, I really need some 3s right now. I'm willing to try MAME32k with Kaillera . I had some trouble getting 3s to work with MAME, but this thread helped me figure out what I needed to do to:
(note: this is merely a CLONE of 3s, which means you still need the actual ROM, sfiii3.zip, to play it)
Then in MAME32, make sure you select this particular clone of 3s to play. I haven't tried MAME32k which has Kaillera as well, but I found you can download it here:
http://www.kaillera.com/download.php edit: wtf, this thing crashes whenever it tries to audit one of the 3s roms -_- I'll try to find v0.117 I guess...
Unfortunately, I have to play with my keyboard. But it's the only way I can press 2 buttons at once or accurately move straight up/down/left/right. I'm also more accurate at doing moves with it. I think it's going to take some getting used to compared to the arcade .
I set up the controls like this, similar to the arcade where my index finger is on lp and my ring finger is on hp (although with the left hand rather than the right). T / Y / U - hp / mp / lp G / H / J - hk / mk / lk I / K - hp+mp / hk+mk (for easier EX moves)
Okay so, I found version 0.117 of mame 32 plus plus with kaillera. Unlike version 0.118 and 0.118u1, version 0.117 actually audits 3s without crashing! -_-
BUT, whenever I try to run the game it just exits the game after it finishes loading. -_-;; Any help?
Edit: OHHHH omg stupid... the 0.117 download I found had this other guy's config saved with it, which apparently wasn't working on my machine. So I chose Properties and clicked Restore Default Settings, and now it FINALLY works =P.
Edit 2: ARRRRGH!!! 3s runs fine in MAME32 (without Kaillera support), but runs laggy in the plus plus version with Kaillera support
Edit 3: Ugh, 3s is still running at ~20 fps in MAME32++ v0.117. It's kinda funny, though: the game moves so slow I can almost parry the computer's JABS on reaction . But there's no way this is gonna work for netplay =/. I wonder if this might have something to do with the settings files from the other guy =P.
Edit 4: Okay EVERY game is running laggy in that emu. It's as if I have slow-motion enabled or something, somehow -.- .
WOOHOO! Okay so, 0.117 is still super-laggy (probably because it was built with Visual C++ rather than GCC, that's my best guess), but now magically 0.118u1 (with kaillera) can audit and run 3s!
Okay so, you download that version of MAME+Kaillera here: http://ddememame.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ (scroll to the bottom and download "Mame32 Plus Plus 0.118u1 GCCコンパイル(2007.08.11)")
And if it doesn't run 3s or crashes, try resetting your default game options and also the specific game options for 3s.
On August 17 2007 04:39 CharlieMurphy wrote: I think the japanese arcade sticks are probably much easier to use over the american ones. Probably why I always found joystick to be difficult.
Japanese = Short small lollipop looking stick American = Long baseball bat looking.
It's not just the shape, but the parts inside the stick are different. I have a Japanese stick using Seimitsu. Other Japanese stick might be Sanwa. My Seimitsu is square base and might be difficult for some people to do circular motion, especially 720s. There are also wide variety of the long bat stick as well with varying quality.
If you have huge difficulties doing moves on the arcade, paying 90$ for the Hori Real Arcade Pro won't help. When the japanese came to USA, they still rape on long bat sticks.
I grew up playing on sticks on every system I own since that's what I prefer. I got a joystick(s) for every system. Also I notice there were certain stuff I could better on the pad compared to the sticks.
On August 17 2007 08:39 [X]Ken~D wrote: Also I notice there were certain stuff I could do better on the pad compared to the sticks.
The problem is that often it's pointless to practice on a pad, because you can't show up to the arcade and just use the stick like it's a pad. I played Guilty Gear XX on PS2 and was alright, then I tried to play it in the arcade and it took me like 20 minutes just to get a quarter circle movement correct 1/2 times.
On August 17 2007 09:00 H_ wrote: The problem is that often it's pointless to practice on a pad, because you can't show up to the arcade and just use the stick like it's a pad. I played Guilty Gear XX on PS2 and was alright, then I tried to play it in the arcade and it took me like 20 minutes just to get a quarter circle movement correct 1/2 times.
There is no problem now because the arcade scene is pretty much dead. Most people are limited to playing at home online or when friends come over.
The biggest arcade scene in USA called Evolution moved away from being arcade only to consoles fighters including arcade ports.
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. I had some trouble getting 3s to work with MAME, but this thread helped me figure out what I needed to do to:
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