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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 21 2024 21:21 GMT
#2461
On March 22 2024 06:12 Simberto wrote:
How is the monetization model in that? I heard that it is a bit of a microtransaction hell?

what do you mean its just for cosmetic crap.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46234 Posts
March 21 2024 21:30 GMT
#2462
On March 22 2024 06:12 Simberto wrote:
How is the monetization model in that? I heard that it is a bit of a microtransaction hell?


For D4? Nah, that's all optional and doesn't affect or interrupt gameplay.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11933 Posts
March 21 2024 21:44 GMT
#2463
On March 22 2024 06:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2024 06:12 Simberto wrote:
How is the monetization model in that? I heard that it is a bit of a microtransaction hell?


For D4? Nah, that's all optional and doesn't affect or interrupt gameplay.


Sorry, to clarify, i was asking about Last Epoch.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46234 Posts
March 21 2024 21:46 GMT
#2464
On March 22 2024 06:44 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2024 06:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 22 2024 06:12 Simberto wrote:
How is the monetization model in that? I heard that it is a bit of a microtransaction hell?


For D4? Nah, that's all optional and doesn't affect or interrupt gameplay.


Sorry, to clarify, i was asking about Last Epoch.


Oh! Same answer No microtransaction issues.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-23 14:33:13
March 23 2024 14:33 GMT
#2465
On March 22 2024 06:44 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2024 06:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 22 2024 06:12 Simberto wrote:
How is the monetization model in that? I heard that it is a bit of a microtransaction hell?


For D4? Nah, that's all optional and doesn't affect or interrupt gameplay.


Sorry, to clarify, i was asking about Last Epoch.

You probably think about Lost Ark
n_n
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8690 Posts
March 23 2024 15:41 GMT
#2466
On March 23 2024 23:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2024 06:44 Simberto wrote:
On March 22 2024 06:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 22 2024 06:12 Simberto wrote:
How is the monetization model in that? I heard that it is a bit of a microtransaction hell?


For D4? Nah, that's all optional and doesn't affect or interrupt gameplay.


Sorry, to clarify, i was asking about Last Epoch.

You probably think about Lost Ark


I mean, that depends on the perspective. I personally think both LE and PoE are microtransaction hells, just not in a p2w sense.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46234 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-23 16:09:54
March 23 2024 16:07 GMT
#2467
On March 24 2024 00:41 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2024 23:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
On March 22 2024 06:44 Simberto wrote:
On March 22 2024 06:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 22 2024 06:12 Simberto wrote:
How is the monetization model in that? I heard that it is a bit of a microtransaction hell?


For D4? Nah, that's all optional and doesn't affect or interrupt gameplay.


Sorry, to clarify, i was asking about Last Epoch.

You probably think about Lost Ark


I mean, that depends on the perspective. I personally think both LE and PoE are microtransaction hells, just not in a p2w sense.


What do you mean by this? I don't remember how it was in PoE, but in LE, the microtransaction shop is basically invisible for the entire game, unless you go out of your way to proactively find the one button that opens up the shop. I actually didn't even realize that microtransactions were in the game until after dozens of hours of playing, because the developers do such a good job of not annoying you with cosmetic/optional purchases that cost real money. On the other hand, Diablo 4's microtransactions are a lot more visible (not that you're ever required to purchase anything, and I never found it a big deal to just ignore the occasional indicator or offer).

Did you just mean that the items in the shop are expensive?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8690 Posts
March 23 2024 22:54 GMT
#2468
On March 24 2024 01:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2024 00:41 Miragee wrote:
On March 23 2024 23:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
On March 22 2024 06:44 Simberto wrote:
On March 22 2024 06:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 22 2024 06:12 Simberto wrote:
How is the monetization model in that? I heard that it is a bit of a microtransaction hell?


For D4? Nah, that's all optional and doesn't affect or interrupt gameplay.


Sorry, to clarify, i was asking about Last Epoch.

You probably think about Lost Ark


I mean, that depends on the perspective. I personally think both LE and PoE are microtransaction hells, just not in a p2w sense.


What do you mean by this? I don't remember how it was in PoE, but in LE, the microtransaction shop is basically invisible for the entire game, unless you go out of your way to proactively find the one button that opens up the shop. I actually didn't even realize that microtransactions were in the game until after dozens of hours of playing, because the developers do such a good job of not annoying you with cosmetic/optional purchases that cost real money. On the other hand, Diablo 4's microtransactions are a lot more visible (not that you're ever required to purchase anything, and I never found it a big deal to just ignore the occasional indicator or offer).

Did you just mean that the items in the shop are expensive?


LE is less intrusive for sure. It "just" has an illuminated button in the main menu if you press "esc". PoE is more intrusive with the green button in right by the action bar, hotkey for shop is on "M" by default (the key you usually open the map with in RPGs) and stuff like the "free" battle pass, where they pretend it's part of the lore and annoy you with pop ups, announcements in chat etc. In both games most rare equipment mostly looks like dogshit. Tbf, most stuff ingame looks like dogshit as well but that's because "shiny blingbling" is not my thing. If that's your thing, you are out of luck if you are looking ingame. Also, you can't turn off effects by other players, which means every time you seem them it breaks immersion because a lot of the visual effects are just that ridiculous.

That said, I think D4 is much worse than both because it's a full price game with microtransactions and battle pass which pop up everywhere in menus and so on.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 26 2024 15:01 GMT
#2469
D4's advertising is definitely in your face. But the world is bleak and gray and I haven't noticed any of the cosmetics being out of the ordinary. Either that or I haven't seen any because nobody can afford them.

But at the same time, some companies have made billions selling cosmetics in first person games.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 28 2024 17:50 GMT
#2470
PTR patch notes.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-22 18:42:02
April 22 2024 18:40 GMT
#2471
I'm sorry Blizz... there is no coming back from this. AI is now making songs about how bad the game is, what's worse the songs are actually good.

The next few seasons better knock it out of the park. No time hoping the expansion saves you.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zutuztjhg
Profile Joined April 2024
1 Post
April 23 2024 07:33 GMT
#2472
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0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4632 Posts
April 25 2024 12:09 GMT
#2473
On April 23 2024 03:40 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I'm sorry Blizz... there is no coming back from this. AI is now making songs about how bad the game is, what's worse the songs are actually good.

The next few seasons better knock it out of the park. No time hoping the expansion saves you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfLYtoav0zE



So catchy, funny how that one last blizzard fan boy keeps trying to post here with new account :D. How this mental disorder is called? (Other than "Hey lad, D4 bad")
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
ghftzrghf
Profile Joined April 2024
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-26 10:29:36
April 26 2024 08:16 GMT
#2474
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jhgzjtrdsgfs
Profile Joined April 2024
1 Post
April 27 2024 08:30 GMT
#2475
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hgfdhsawer
Profile Joined April 2024
1 Post
April 28 2024 07:32 GMT
#2476
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-04 14:16:36
May 04 2024 13:44 GMT
#2477
New patch notes for general release coming in about a week and half. This was after it did the rounds on the PTR.

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23964909/diablo-iv-patch-notes

Also there was a dev stream yesterday talking about Season 4. Which is essentially just fixes, and overhauls. Will Season 5 be focused on overhauling skills? They also need to bring Colin for every stream.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 06 2024 16:36 GMT
#2478
I heard they have 2 teams. Team even has been superior to team odd so far. I'm pretty hyped for season 4. We'll see if they have anything exciting for season 5 or if they're going to punt everything to season 6 once again.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9588 Posts
May 07 2024 13:18 GMT
#2479
On May 07 2024 01:36 andrewlt wrote:
I heard they have 2 teams. Team even has been superior to team odd so far. I'm pretty hyped for season 4. We'll see if they have anything exciting for season 5 or if they're going to punt everything to season 6 once again.


This was known before Microsoft took them over. What I want to know is, who or how many people on the D4 team lost their jobs due to corporate restructuring and redundancies.
Maybe ATM, they have only 1 team left to come up with future seasons & mechanics.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 07 2024 14:51 GMT
#2480
Considering the seasons so far, one of the teams has had smaller budget, headcount and/or support. It is just there to tread water while the other team makes the bigger changes.

They aren't the only videogame company to have had layoffs over the past year. The obsession over graphical fidelity, among other things, has lead to bloated budgets. AAA games have costs on par with the biggest superhero movies and something is going to give eventually.
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