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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
Although I have always thought that is was not legal to do so, there are many games that people claim NO WHERE in the rules were there any mention of Backdooring illegal, this creates a lot of differences in a lot of games between the teams. Is this just an ethical issue or a rule that is found somewhere? | ||
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chrusher97
Canada806 Posts
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uidf
Seychelles370 Posts
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
Is it merely going behind somebody while they're in a lane (say in the river of mid lane) and then just going to kill them? How is that illegal? :-/ | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
like if the creeps are at your 2nd tower, but you attack their base and finish off that side, that's backdooring | ||
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Lycaeus
United States1420 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32269 Posts
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imRadu
1798 Posts
example: 1st enemy tower on bottom lane is on 10hp, creeps are fighting at your tower, you go and kill the enemy tower it is however legal to stay in the enemy base(or keep shooting a tower) and kill all his buildings even if your creep wave died as long as you got there with your creeps. backdooring, item pooling (trading items),some heroes(depending on dota map version),more than 2 necro books,more than 2 euls/guinso's are illegal in most leagues pooling has exceptions like you are allowed to trade ring of regen, tangos etc | ||
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
Edit: The type of "backdooring" imRadu describes where you destroy the first tower in your lane without any creeps near you-- assuming it's indeed banned now (I wouldn't doubt it, except it seems super over-restrictive, like playing BW with a no rush rule... in leagues!)-- was not only legal when I played, but common. It was a great way to make some fast gold. | ||
Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
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pfff
Belgium1352 Posts
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
Banning backdooring is kind of like giving vision in BW. | ||
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dronefromhell
Canada199 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
On May 29 2007 08:48 Tadzio00 wrote: Wow, so many different views on what backdooring is. Back when I played, admittedly a year or two ago, backdooring in DOTA involved the act of bypassing one or more defensive towers to attack the mains. So instead of killing the two enemy towers in your lane, you'd be "bypassing" if you snuck past them and destroyed buildings that were responsible for opponent creep spawns. In DOTA ROC, the Tauren was particularly good at this because of his earthquake spell, which could snipe buildings outside of any tower attack range (and, incidently, his own visual range) and do considerable damage. But pretty much any hero could do it eventually, if not with their epic skill then with super gear and move speed. Edit: The type of "backdooring" imRadu describes where you destroy the first tower in your lane without any creeps near you-- assuming it's indeed banned now (I wouldn't doubt it, except it seems super over-restrictive, like playing BW with a no rush rule... in leagues!)-- was not only legal when I played, but common. It was a great way to make some fast gold. This isn't possible anymore, you have to kill the towers before you can damage the main building And what you're calling "backdooring" is tower skipping, which is different, and not possible as i said. The towers and barracks are invulnerable until you kill all of the towers in a line | ||
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s4rk
Philippines137 Posts
back then, you could even go directly to the throne and destroy it, bypassing all the towers. It may seem cheap, but it's a way of making games more exciting, since most people back then would whore items when they have already destroyed 2 unit producing buildings, and it basically kept the game interesting that a team would have to resort to 'tactics' where they would gather at a spot and directly go to the throne. Those were the good old days. I remembered a tourney where in the final game, it went down to a race to destroying each others thrones, and the team that won had a time stopper and were able to destroy the throne when their own only had ten hp remaining.. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Pubs, the general consensus is that you shouldn't backdoor. Idk why it happened this way, probably because most people are noobs and have no idea how to stop a competent backdoor attempt. It's looked down upon and laughed at if you do it in a pub and if you win with it people call you pussy and other bs like that. However, there is no written rule anywhere stating that backdoor is illegal. Also, if you look at the game info during a game of dota in the TDA rules it says backdooring IS indeed legal. CAL league backdooring is legal simply because if you're in a league you should know how to defend a backdoor, it is kinda comparable to a cheese strat or an all out attempt because if you don't have aegis and you try to do that shit you will get counter-pushed. And it's not like only one side has the availability to backdoor. Nowadays backdooring applies to any kind of tower excluding the very first towers because in order to attack the inner or base towers/buildings you have to destroy the previous towers. Backdooring is fine in my book, usually in inhouses 5v5 with friends we don't backdoor unless we absolutely have no other way of winning. It's more of an etiquette thing than anything else. | ||
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brambolius
Netherlands448 Posts
that could surpsise ur enemies in starcraft 2-_- | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
By the way, I don't consider taking down a red tower (in deny health) backdooring, you have the opportunity to deny it, just as I have the chance to farm it. And backdooring isn't easily countered, if their carry hero gets big (TB/SFiend) it really puts a damper on your pushes. (After around 40-50 min mark with decent teams). Basically ack1027 summarized the concept of BD, don't do it unless you have no way of winning or if the game has dragged on longer than it should. | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
On May 29 2007 12:26 Judicator wrote: No it shouldn't be banned, in TDA backdooring is legal after the game has extended for one hour which is more than reason enough to start backdooring because every hero (if competent) would be farmed at that point. By the way, I don't consider taking down a red tower (in deny health) backdooring, you have the opportunity to deny it, just as I have the chance to farm it. And backdooring isn't easily countered, if their carry hero gets big (TB/SFiend) it really puts a damper on your pushes. (After around 40-50 min mark with decent teams). Basically ack1027 summarized the concept of BD, don't do it unless you have no way of winning or if the game has dragged on longer than it should. he was being sarcastic edit: Don't give advice or try to define backdooring if you guys don't know wtf it is plz;( | ||
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