Well obviously, but I would like have the possibility to LOSE to culture, and I don't like engineering the game setup toward a specific type of victory.

I was just wondering if that is a common thing or if I am doing something differently.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8844 Posts

January 20 2022 06:44 GMT

#1163

id lean towards saying you do something differently. what difficulty is this?
all the games ive opted for domination or science im usually not getting big culture boosting techs or buildings and therefore have never run into the problem of having an unwanted culture victory.
you must either be playing on a low enough difficulty where you can do anything and be so ahead of the opponents that it doesnt matter, or your path to your chosen victory condition is too inefficient.

zatic

Zurich15365 Posts

January 20 2022 07:59 GMT

#1164

Could be. I am usually playing Emperor. I am getting 1 or 2 theater squares to get policies, and for most of the games that's not a problem. But as I am capturing more cities, more squares, more works, more wonders, my culture just goes through the roof. Like in the post game ranking it's a hockey stick chart that shoots up as fewer enemies remain. Usually as I am about to conquer the last remaining Civ I am getting the culture victory.

Anyway it's not terribly important and disabling culture victory is an easy fix, if not the ideal one.

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

January 20 2022 17:00 GMT

#1165

I haven't played in a while and I'm playing on easier difficulties. Once you've conquered half the capitals, maybe beeline as much as possible for the remaining capitals while avoiding capturing so many cities?

zatic

Zurich15365 Posts

March 11 2022 11:31 GMT

#1166

So, finally finished winning a game with every Civ.

Personal ranking of best/worst Civs:

Best:
Netherlands
Spain
Pericles / Greece

Worst:
Brasil
Vietnam
Arabia

Vietnam was by far the worst, took me forever to bring myself to go through a full game with them. It's not even that they are super weak, but the district planning is so incredibly annoying that it takes out all the fun. Somewhat similar with Brasil, plus the useless unique unit.

I love building around rivers so Netherlands always felt great. All my Netherland games I became super overpowered quickly. Similar with Spain if you have an early second continent, it's kind of silly. And Pericles + Himiko is also kind of silly.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8844 Posts

March 11 2022 12:35 GMT

#1167

what difficulty and victory condition did you go for?
were the victory conditions the "recommended" choice for the civ you played or did you do whatever was available? (eg science/domination on a "culture" civ)

zatic

Zurich15365 Posts

March 11 2022 13:49 GMT

#1168

I usually try to go for a victory which seems natural for each Civ but don't force it. So for example if Religion becomes too annoying I might switch to Science or Culture instead.

I worked with a game config of a random leader pool where I deselected all leaders which I had won with from. All victory conditions, continents, standard, Emperor. I add from Corporations, Heroes, Society, Apocalypse game modes here and there to have some variety.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

November 14 2022 23:35 GMT

#1169

So this basically confirms that Civ 7 has either been delayed, or had to restart development.

P.S.

+ Show Spoiler +

It's a leader pack and possibly some Scenarios. It was leaked last week.

Trondheimerdinger

United States28 Posts

November 15 2022 05:14 GMT

#1170

Is this game still worth buying? I loved Civ V but haven't played VI yet.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8844 Posts

November 15 2022 05:24 GMT

#1171

unless civ 7 gets released in the near future, i would recommend civ 6. i was coming from civ 5 also and was skeptical about civ 6 but after having played it a fair bit now, overall i think its a pretty good iteration.
theres a few things you have to get used to though, and i think how you receive this things will depend on person to person. personally i still get annoyed as hell when im less than 10 turns into the game and i find that theres horsemen coming at me because my first warrior scouted in the wrong direction. also the loyalty system making early game domination more tedious is probably a negative for players who really like domination victories.

Latham

9572 Posts

November 15 2022 09:27 GMT

#1172

On November 15 2022 14:14 Trondheimerdinger wrote:
Is this game still worth buying? I loved Civ V but haven't played VI yet.

Get it on a deep deep sale with every DLC possible. Right now it's 90% off on Steam and I think that's the best deal you're ever gonna get.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/289070/Sid_Meiers_Civilization_VI/

absolutely no reason to pay full price for a 2016 game.

zatic

Zurich15365 Posts

November 15 2022 09:55 GMT

#1173

Yeah def get the full bundle on sale. I played it from beginning and with all addons and civs I must say it is an excellent Civ iteration. Definitely worth it!

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

November 15 2022 16:52 GMT

#1174

This is my favorite iteration of Civ. I liked Civ 5 as well but I think it went too far in encouraging tall vs wide empires. Many of the previous civs encouraged infinite city sprawl. This feels more in the middle for most factions.

I looked at Steam DB and these would be my recommended bundles. I wouldn't recommend base Civ 6 without the expansions, especially if you are coming from Civ 5 with its expansions.
Civ 6 Platinum - $15 - includes both expansions and all DLCs except the recent New Frontier pass ones
Civ 6 Anthology - $30 - includes both expansions and all DLCs including the recent New Frontier pass ones

The New Frontier pass DLCs include game modes that are meant to spice up the gameplay for veterans. Many are not historical and you should probably turn off most if not all of them all if you are playing for the first time.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

November 15 2022 18:28 GMT

#1175

....... again this is because Civ 7 is delayed and missed a internal deadline.

Gonna be a lot of pissed off German players lol

https://civilization.com/news/entries/new-leaders-coming-to-civilization-vi/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_II_of_Bavaria

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

November 15 2022 20:42 GMT

#1176

I saw it's free for people who have the anthology, whether they bought it as a bundle or bought all the components separately. I already made a list of 3-4 civs from the New Frontier Pass to try out the next time I play the game.

zatic

Zurich15365 Posts

November 16 2022 06:54 GMT

#1177

Huh, I thought I read somewhere last year that Civ6 is finished and that there will be no more content. Guess I will install that game one more time and give it a roll as Ludwig :D

Why would Germans be pissed off though, I think it's great they mix in some less obvious leaders. It's kind of boring would we always get the Panzer and Uboat Germany in every Civ.

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

November 16 2022 16:45 GMT

#1178

Late game UUs tend to be lackluster as well. The German UU is usually (always?) off the earliest tank so it can be ok but having an earlier UU to mix it up is great. The Americans almost always gets a fighter plane and the Japanese frequently get a fighter plane too. The Russian Cossack is frequently the latest UU that makes a significant difference in the game.

I just read up on Ludwig II a bit. Such a strange choice, even though they have him as part of the great builder pack. He's not so much a great builder but more of somebody who built a lot of stuff because he had no real job after the unification of Germany.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

November 17 2022 00:17 GMT

#1179

So it appears the leaders will not be released all at once but throughout November 21st to March 2023... perhaps after the sixth and final Leaders are dropped we will get Civ 7 being revealed/teased.

Up first are Abraham Lincoln (representing the United States), Queen Nzinga Mbande (Kongo), and Sultan Saladin (Arabia), all arriving as part of the diplomacy focused Great Negotiations Pack on 21st November. 2K is yet to provide launch dates for the Leader Pass' five remaining DLC releases, but all are due before the end of March 2023.

Expect the second DLC - the Great Commanders Pack - to feature Tokugawa (Japan), Nader Shah (Persia), and Suleiman the Magnificent (Ottoman Empire), while pack three, Rulers of China Pack, adds Yongle, Qin Shi Huang the Unifier, and Wu Zetian. It's worth noting some additional DLC stipulations here: Nader Shah is only available to players that own the Persia & Macedon Scenario Pack, and Suleiman the Magnificent is dependent on owning Civilization 6's Gathering Storm expansion.

Pack four - titled Rulers of the Sahara Pack - features Ramses (Egypt), Ptolemaic Cleopatra (Egypt), and King Sundiata Keita (Mali), and the focus switches to Great Builders for pack five, with appearances from Theodora (Byzantines), Sejong (Korea), and Ludwig II (Germany). Again, there are additional DLC requirements here: King Sundiata Keita is tied to Gathering Storm, Theodora requires the New Frontier Pass and Byzantium & Gaul Pack, and players will need the Rise & Fall expansion to make use of Sejong.

Rounding out the Leader Pass' six DLC releases, presumably in March next year, is the Ruler of England Pack, featuring Elizabeth I (England), Varangian Harald Hardrada (Norway), and Victoria - Age of Steam (England).

Source

Bacillus

Finland2036 Posts

November 17 2022 08:27 GMT

#1180

I recently tried to get into Civ 6 again and it's still a really mixed bag for me. I don't enjoy the UI at all and now I also get some lockups on AI turns, which kind of kills the 'one more turn' cycle quite effectively. Lots of stuff seems really interesting and contrasting to the Civ 5, but it also feels really mobile-like and cheap and cluttered at times. Lots of decisions seem potentially interesting, but also unnecessarily obscure and not necessarily that exciting once you get past the initial confusion.

Maybe with Civ 7 approaching, I'll figure out the time to sit down with Civ 6 and really get past the UI clutter and nuisances and see how good of a game it is under the surface.

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