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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
September 14 2016 23:57 GMT
#201
I must be the only person who liked Beyond Earth, the rising tide expansion made it a good deal better. They fixed up diplomacy a bit and made hybrid affinity styles really good. Although I will say it's definitely lacking in some ways and still has it's problems. Another expansion and it could be as good as civ 5, but probably not as good as alpha centauri which is it's true predecessor. They just need to make the factions more unique, make it so the city state things actually have a purpose, and revamp the unit upgrade system to smooth progession out, maybe add a few units and biomes.

Well I've played every civ game since civ 2, not gonna miss this one even if the reviews are awful.
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
September 15 2016 09:06 GMT
#202
On September 15 2016 08:57 TheFish7 wrote:
I must be the only person who liked Beyond Earth, the rising tide expansion made it a good deal better. They fixed up diplomacy a bit and made hybrid affinity styles really good. Although I will say it's definitely lacking in some ways and still has it's problems. Another expansion and it could be as good as civ 5, but probably not as good as alpha centauri which is it's true predecessor. They just need to make the factions more unique, make it so the city state things actually have a purpose, and revamp the unit upgrade system to smooth progession out, maybe add a few units and biomes.

Well I've played every civ game since civ 2, not gonna miss this one even if the reviews are awful.

I also liked Beyond Earth. Yes the game has it problems for sure, but as a whole I still think it is a good game after the expansion.

The sound of the aliens rippers is so cute
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
September 15 2016 09:14 GMT
#203
I also liked Beyond Earth. A new expansion with some more factions and that gave every faction some more "soul"/personality, it would become really really good!
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8058 Posts
September 20 2016 14:08 GMT
#204
On August 24 2016 17:51 OtherWorld wrote:
Jesus, I just discovered they put as the ruler of France a queen that's probably unknown to 50+% of the French population, and whose only feat is the mass killing of Protestants. Why?...

Well, the fact many people don't know about her is one more reason to have her as a leader (at least you learn something playing the game..?)

I think it's more interesting to have Medicis than Napoleon or Louis XIV for the 6th time. Maybe the rational is also that France was a very interesting nation in the XVIth century, and that having a queen as a leader (and a fairly evil one with that) is cooler than having François 1er or Henry IV.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
September 20 2016 14:23 GMT
#205
the biggest problem of Beyond Earth was that it felt really lacking compared to Civ5, which should not be a problem if BE would have been a budget side game to keep revenue flowing.

At that price, there wasnt much over Civ5 to justify the price
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
September 20 2016 14:27 GMT
#206
On September 20 2016 23:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2016 17:51 OtherWorld wrote:
Jesus, I just discovered they put as the ruler of France a queen that's probably unknown to 50+% of the French population, and whose only feat is the mass killing of Protestants. Why?...

Well, the fact many people don't know about her is one more reason to have her as a leader (at least you learn something playing the game..?)

I think it's more interesting to have Medicis than Napoleon or Louis XIV for the 6th time. Maybe the rational is also that France was a very interesting nation in the XVIth century, and that having a queen as a leader (and a fairly evil one with that) is cooler than having François 1er or Henry IV.

France has never been very Queen-friendly, though, and thus has no memorable queens... (by memorable I mean the likes of Queen Victoria or Elizabeth I)
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Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
September 20 2016 16:57 GMT
#207
France does have an interesting habit of importing leaders. Charlamagne (who I'd love to see as a Civ leader) is more or less German, our new Civ queen was Italian, and Napoleon came from a shitty little island.

But yeah, I think sometimes they're going for difference from other civ games instead of being true to the nature of the Civ. Civ bonuses are ok + Show Spoiler +
except England, which is meh, and US, which is weird. look I'll do the US: Immigration: Trade routes to other civs provide cities with growth and culture. Bam! I've actually said something important about the character of America, which would give it a unique playstyle...
, but leader bonuses are all over the place. Which might be more ok if they end up with 2 leaders per civ, one "traditional" that generally matches that Civ and one "specialized" which gives you a unique take, like Catherine de Medici.

I'd also personally get rid of bonuses that are heavily dependent on starting terrain, as much as I love the flavor they provide. Norway is at least justifiable (though I think it could be reworded to be useful on Pangea), but Brazil's and Japan's seem limiting.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 20 2016 17:12 GMT
#208
On September 20 2016 23:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2016 17:51 OtherWorld wrote:
Jesus, I just discovered they put as the ruler of France a queen that's probably unknown to 50+% of the French population, and whose only feat is the mass killing of Protestants. Why?...

Well, the fact many people don't know about her is one more reason to have her as a leader (at least you learn something playing the game..?)

I think it's more interesting to have Medicis than Napoleon or Louis XIV for the 6th time. Maybe the rational is also that France was a very interesting nation in the XVIth century, and that having a queen as a leader (and a fairly evil one with that) is cooler than having François 1er or Henry IV.

françois 1er would have made much more sense and he's by far not that used in any games, he's the perfect mix between a warleader and a man of culture like the way they want to show the country in CIV6
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 20 2016 20:51 GMT
#209
Considering the game is made in America by Americans, the devs have never given the US civ a good set of bonuses. It is always a middling to weak faction with weird bonuses. It seems like they are always giving bonuses based on an idealized time from before the US was truly powerful instead of giving traits that foreigners or even new immigrants would recognize as America.

When I started playing Civ 2, the series was about taking historically powerful civs that have made their mark in history and seeing what you could do with them. Today, the devs and many of the hardcore fans over at civfanatics prioritize being different from previous civ games. There's increasing demand to throw more obscure civs and obscure leaders into the mix.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
September 20 2016 23:37 GMT
#210
Hmm it's true, in civ 5 I always liked to play as the Iroquois and imagine some idealized version of America instead of actually playing as America. Some of the American UU's have been pretty good though.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-20 23:41:09
September 20 2016 23:40 GMT
#211
I think Roosevelt in Civ4 was pretty good, industrious and something else, Washington has always been mediocre. American UUs always come too late to matter. I think I've started modern wars maybe 5% of all my Civ 5 games.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
September 21 2016 15:04 GMT
#212
Lol Rome no aqueduct
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 21 2016 15:12 GMT
#213
That's true. In my warmonger games, I do most of my fighting in the medieval to industrial era, maybe spilling a bit into WW1 era. I only start fighting earlier than the medieval era if the UU is powerful enough. I'm not fond of airplane UUs either. So I do end up playing civs that have strong medieval to industrial era UUs.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18259 Posts
September 21 2016 15:26 GMT
#214
On September 22 2016 00:12 andrewlt wrote:
That's true. In my warmonger games, I do most of my fighting in the medieval to industrial era, maybe spilling a bit into WW1 era. I only start fighting earlier than the medieval era if the UU is powerful enough. I'm not fond of airplane UUs either. So I do end up playing civs that have strong medieval to industrial era UUs.

Airplane UUs tend to suck, but my warmonger games do tend to draw out into the modern era (barring some ridiculous Ghengis conquest that just overruns everybody), so planes in general are pretty great
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9572 Posts
September 21 2016 17:56 GMT
#215
On September 22 2016 00:26 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 00:12 andrewlt wrote:
That's true. In my warmonger games, I do most of my fighting in the medieval to industrial era, maybe spilling a bit into WW1 era. I only start fighting earlier than the medieval era if the UU is powerful enough. I'm not fond of airplane UUs either. So I do end up playing civs that have strong medieval to industrial era UUs.

Airplane UUs tend to suck, but my warmonger games do tend to draw out into the modern era (barring some ridiculous Ghengis conquest that just overruns everybody), so planes in general are pretty great


Ehhh I usually fight when I get composite bowmen and later on trebs, stop at Enlightment era or so. Some games are peaceful and I don't really need bash skulls in and can go full science.
But there are... sometimes these retarded AIs that think I am an easy target since I haven't upgraded my Crossbowmen into gatling guns before them. And they invade.
And I spend my money since I focused on getting a booming economy and science up. And I push them back. And I invade THEM. and I raze every fucking city to the ground. I pillage their lands and I exterminate the general populace.
And the other AIs denounce me and I have the warmonger debuff.
Then...
THEN
Then I decide the world needs to burn. I do not stop. Not once. Not ever. Not for anyone. The space ship parts turn into nuclear missiles, and UN votes can go fuck themselves.
I have turned into what they wanted to turn me in to.
DOn'T yoU sEE? IT IS aLL THeiR FAulT!
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Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 18:14:36
September 21 2016 18:14 GMT
#216
On September 22 2016 02:56 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 00:26 Acrofales wrote:
On September 22 2016 00:12 andrewlt wrote:
That's true. In my warmonger games, I do most of my fighting in the medieval to industrial era, maybe spilling a bit into WW1 era. I only start fighting earlier than the medieval era if the UU is powerful enough. I'm not fond of airplane UUs either. So I do end up playing civs that have strong medieval to industrial era UUs.

Airplane UUs tend to suck, but my warmonger games do tend to draw out into the modern era (barring some ridiculous Ghengis conquest that just overruns everybody), so planes in general are pretty great
+ Show Spoiler +


Ehhh I usually fight when I get composite bowmen and later on trebs, stop at Enlightment era or so. Some games are peaceful and I don't really need bash skulls in and can go full science.
But there are... sometimes these retarded AIs that think I am an easy target since I haven't upgraded my Crossbowmen into gatling guns before them. And they invade.
And I spend my money since I focused on getting a booming economy and science up. And I push them back. And I invade THEM. and I raze every fucking city to the ground. I pillage their lands and I exterminate the general populace.
And the other AIs denounce me and I have the warmonger debuff.
Then...
THEN
Then I decide the world needs to burn. I do not stop. Not once. Not ever. Not for anyone. The space ship parts turn into nuclear missiles, and UN votes can go fuck themselves.
I have turned into what they wanted to turn me in to.
DOn'T yoU sEE? IT IS aLL THeiR FAulT!

You just described all of my games perfectly.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12241 Posts
September 21 2016 18:19 GMT
#217
On September 22 2016 02:56 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 00:26 Acrofales wrote:
On September 22 2016 00:12 andrewlt wrote:
That's true. In my warmonger games, I do most of my fighting in the medieval to industrial era, maybe spilling a bit into WW1 era. I only start fighting earlier than the medieval era if the UU is powerful enough. I'm not fond of airplane UUs either. So I do end up playing civs that have strong medieval to industrial era UUs.

Airplane UUs tend to suck, but my warmonger games do tend to draw out into the modern era (barring some ridiculous Ghengis conquest that just overruns everybody), so planes in general are pretty great


Ehhh I usually fight when I get composite bowmen and later on trebs, stop at Enlightment era or so. Some games are peaceful and I don't really need bash skulls in and can go full science.
But there are... sometimes these retarded AIs that think I am an easy target since I haven't upgraded my Crossbowmen into gatling guns before them. And they invade.
And I spend my money since I focused on getting a booming economy and science up. And I push them back. And I invade THEM. and I raze every fucking city to the ground. I pillage their lands and I exterminate the general populace.
And the other AIs denounce me and I have the warmonger debuff.
Then...
THEN
Then I decide the world needs to burn. I do not stop. Not once. Not ever. Not for anyone. The space ship parts turn into nuclear missiles, and UN votes can go fuck themselves.
I have turned into what they wanted to turn me in to.
DOn'T yoU sEE? IT IS aLL THeiR FAulT!


ahahahaha. This is me. This is me every time. They couldn't leave well enough alone!
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Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 19:04:03
September 21 2016 19:02 GMT
#218
On September 22 2016 00:04 Yoav wrote:
Lol Rome no aqueduct

The baths is an extra building in the aqueduct district, you can see the aqueduct behind the baths.
but in terms of gameplay it works as an aqueduct replacement.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
September 21 2016 20:20 GMT
#219
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 22 2016 16:15 GMT
#220
On September 22 2016 02:56 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 00:26 Acrofales wrote:
On September 22 2016 00:12 andrewlt wrote:
That's true. In my warmonger games, I do most of my fighting in the medieval to industrial era, maybe spilling a bit into WW1 era. I only start fighting earlier than the medieval era if the UU is powerful enough. I'm not fond of airplane UUs either. So I do end up playing civs that have strong medieval to industrial era UUs.

Airplane UUs tend to suck, but my warmonger games do tend to draw out into the modern era (barring some ridiculous Ghengis conquest that just overruns everybody), so planes in general are pretty great


Ehhh I usually fight when I get composite bowmen and later on trebs, stop at Enlightment era or so. Some games are peaceful and I don't really need bash skulls in and can go full science.
But there are... sometimes these retarded AIs that think I am an easy target since I haven't upgraded my Crossbowmen into gatling guns before them. And they invade.
And I spend my money since I focused on getting a booming economy and science up. And I push them back. And I invade THEM. and I raze every fucking city to the ground. I pillage their lands and I exterminate the general populace.
And the other AIs denounce me and I have the warmonger debuff.
Then...
THEN
Then I decide the world needs to burn. I do not stop. Not once. Not ever. Not for anyone. The space ship parts turn into nuclear missiles, and UN votes can go fuck themselves.
I have turned into what they wanted to turn me in to.
DOn'T yoU sEE? IT IS aLL THeiR FAulT!


It's so nice to see a thread of like minded players.
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