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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
unbidden is the harder one to fight since they keep spawning from that portal. build up a 100k+ tach lance battlecruiser deathball (make sure you toss in a few ships with the support auras) and slam the portal system. prethoryn is pretty easy, just need a bunch of smaller fleets to snipe their planets and keep a big one to knock out their fleets. all the military stations can be a PITB though. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Knd0mR0.png) :D ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/652lFHU.png) do you want to get purged? 'cause that's how you get purged | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24601 Posts
On July 19 2016 07:20 Noocta wrote: My current game is going a bit crazy with the endgame Crsis. The Prethoryn Scourge controls a third of my galaxy, I control anotehr third, and a few empires control the last part. I was kinda lucky / unlucky that the scourge spawned at the other side of the galaxy, so I couldn't go there to stop them, and they ate all the weak empires there and spread very fast. I kinda hold a frontier against them now, but the other endgame crisis, the Extradimensional Invaders, appeared in the MIDDLE of the Prethoryn Scourge. Now they're both fighting each others and I'm a bit clueless how to approach finishing them, given accessing the primary portal of the invaders is basically impossible. lol Fun game.  Haha, that is amazing. I think you can beat the Unbidden by sending out a decoy fleet for them to chase while taking your main fleet and gunning for the system with the portal in and then blowing it up. You might not get out alive but it's a really fun and tense way to play at least. | ||
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nothingmuch
448 Posts
On July 19 2016 14:23 Cyro wrote: + Show Spoiler + :D do you want to get purged? 'cause that's how you get purged That's an amazing planet name in that context. Did you rename that? edit: I wish I could have some endgame challenge from the crisis' they always arrive way too late for me. Let's hope they add some dynamic triggers or a cascading series of endgame crisis in some later patches/dlcs. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
That's an amazing planet name in that context. Did you rename that? Nop, just found it :D | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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gTank
Austria2604 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:24 nothingmuch wrote: That's an amazing planet name in that context. Did you rename that? edit: I wish I could have some endgame challenge from the crisis' they always arrive way too late for me. Let's hope they add some dynamic triggers or a cascading series of endgame crisis in some later patches/dlcs. that planet is a great find haha. About endgame crisis, its bound to certain researches I think. And if you end up in a galaxy without some nerdy race, the crisis breaks out really late unless you go for the research. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
alternatively, spawn them using console commands! i once had prethoryn arrive in my ringworld system, i had a warp inhibitor fortress covered in PD with 6 tach lance fortresses around it. shortest intergalactic invasion ever. | ||
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nothingmuch
448 Posts
On July 20 2016 00:49 ticklishmusic wrote: unbidden is psi jump drives, robots is if you do the +10% research thing (but can be prevented from starting in your empire by giving full rights). prethoryn is random. alternatively, spawn them using console commands! i once had prethoryn arrive in my ringworld system, i had a warp inhibitor fortress covered in PD with 6 tach lance fortresses around it. shortest intergalactic invasion ever. That's what I'm saying- the invasions come so late that you're completely prepared for them. They should not be linked to tech or date but rather the player (or even an ai) passing some "power ceiling". It could easily be some function of population and tech or fleet strength. I've had games where I was taking out fallen empires after 70 years, it makes no sense that I have to twiddle my thumbs for at least another 40-80 years for some "challenge" to arrive (I guess I could just "win" and end the game but meh). | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
robots is if you do the +10% research thing (but can be prevented from starting in your empire by giving full rights) Sentient AI! And make sure to give your robots lots of love AFAIK another empire can abuse sentient AI and then there will be a significant chance of the bad AI spreading to your own bots even if you treat them perfectly | ||
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
WTF, I may have "liberated" a few planets her e and there but c'mon guys. Give me a break. After solving energy problems, I'll show them who is the boss. Considering I'll not teared apart from inside because of ethnic difference between self-genetically-engineered "Meta race". (compulsory master race meme). What a game. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On July 20 2016 22:21 ticklishmusic wrote: TIL if you liberate a fallen empire you basically "unfall" them and they build fleets and expand. Plus they're friendly to you so you can ally/defpact and trade research agreements for +25% to all research. OPOP. Isn't it %25 bonus if you don't research that tech yet and they already have it? I "divide and conquer" till now and annexed them since now but they always have pathetic in every front. I believe it is even better to liberate them more by sectoring them and harvest juicy minerals and such. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
The problem that arises is when you have to backstab them  | ||
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nothingmuch
448 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
trade research agreements for +25% to all research Quick correction since i see this mistake a lot - it's -25% to research time. This actually results in researching 33.3% faster, because negative percentages are not the same as positive: With a 100 second research and default speed: 100 seconds = research 1 200 seconds = research 2 300 seconds = research 3 with a 75 second research (-25% time): 75 seconds = research 1 150 seconds = research 2 225 seconds = research 3 300 seconds = research 4 You get 4 researches in the time it'd take to get 3 (133.33% of base speed, 4/3) As another way of looking at it, a -50% research time would result in researching twice as fast. There's an exponential(?) scale here - each percentage of research speed increase is worth the same as the one before it, but each percentage of cost reduction is worth a lot more than the previous one. This is relatively simple math stuff but it trips a lot of people up at first | ||
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Simberto
Germany11792 Posts
On July 21 2016 11:38 Cyro wrote: Quick correction since i see this mistake a lot - it's -25% to research time. This actually results in researching 33.3% faster, because negative percentages are not the same as positive: With a 100 second research and default speed: 100 seconds = research 1 200 seconds = research 2 300 seconds = research 3 with a 75 second research (-25% time): 75 seconds = research 1 150 seconds = research 2 225 seconds = research 3 300 seconds = research 4 You get 4 researches in the time it'd take to get 3 (133.33% of base speed, 4/3) As another way of looking at it, a -50% research time would result in researching twice as fast. There's an exponential(?) scale here - each percentage of research speed increase is worth the same as the one before it, but each percentage of cost reduction is worth a lot more than the previous one. This is relatively simple math stuff but it trips a lot of people up at first The relationship is not exponential, it is anti proportional (If you are talking about research time percentage compared to research done in amount of time.) | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
And my ass is handed to me by the nearest neighbor. GG wp, will play against cheater AI for sure 11/10. Coding a semi-competent AI is that hard? | ||
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