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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
July 12 2016 06:16 GMT
#161
On July 11 2016 15:00 fishjie wrote:
I still think fireball the pump is too risky until you know what kind of cards they have. that means there is a small window you dont have fireball available, and it could be a lifesaver. poison is pretty safe for reasons you mentioned.

Djagulingu why dont you post your deck? Do you have a poison spell?

Hog trifecta is a skill based deck. I always drop tons of trophies when I try to use it. With legendaries you can drop them and even if you are bad they will still get you an advantage. This is why I hate sparky. Its a dumb all in build but the other side has to play better to defend it. For example, I am aware you can drop your units in a surround so sparky only kills one of them while the rest kill it. However I've lost too many games due to screwing that up. So now instead of using barbs to defeat sparky for a 1 elixer advantage, I always zap first then drop barbs, or distract with spear gobs then drop barbs, for a 1 elixer disadvantage. Most of the time I can win because sparky users are bad, but its still total bs.

I got back into legendary this weekend and was incredibly disappointed to not see any legendaries in shop. This morning I dropped out but got back in. I went on a 5 game lose streak, looked at the profiles and these were people in the 3000s, yet their previous trophy count was 3400-3500. wtf? I went onto reddit and saw that many people had similar experience. Seems the tourneys are bringing back a lot of inactives. Season resets are always rough and push people down, but it has been more rough than normal. I tried hog trifecta again and giant balloon but dropped too many trophies. My card levels for hut rg are highest so I'll stick with that since I am able to stay just on the cusp of legendary with it. Really want an ice wiz or a princess, those seem to work really well with RG.

My deck was giant witch minion horde musketeer mini pekka arrows barbs and... don't even remember the last card. Most likely spear goblins.

I changed that deck into zap, arrows, valkyrie, musketeer, tombstone, giant, barbs, minion horde. This has less troubles against hog shit, I guess? Against collectors, well, I used the infamous newbie strategy of "shoving meaty troops right onto the bridge" to some success. I have poison but it's just level 1, so it doesn't do shit.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-12 08:01:00
July 12 2016 07:54 GMT
#162
On July 12 2016 10:02 fishjie wrote:
How are you able to join tourneys? Everytime I search it shows full tourneys. Even the ones that are available when I click join it says full lol.

The way I do it:

I click refresh and have my fingers ready to click to first tournament and the join button instantly. I do not check how many players there are already in that tournament. I also click the join button before I can see it.

Just try to press that join button as soon as possible.


I did this for a tournament that had like 1/100 members and still failed to get in. So do not think this is a foolproof method. People in my clan say that there is also a site you can visit to join tournaments. I didn't bother yet to check but it seems to be good.


PS: Grtz on the legendary!
I had a good night of sleep.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 13 2016 10:06 GMT
#163
Princess is BY FAR the best card in the game so congrats!

on tourneys i mostly play in private tournies with clannies or hosted ones with passwords etc.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 07:14:09
July 14 2016 07:07 GMT
#164
oh yeah im def in the legendaries too strong camp. im not good at the game ill admit that. but before i got a princess, it took me almost 2 months to get back into legendary arena. i tried lots of different decks but stuck with rg hut cause those cards were high levelled. now that i have princess i have dropped out of arena 9 a coupla times but have always managed to get back in.

i would ideally like a miner because i see lots of miner princess. miner is such a good utility card. it does rocket damage to tower if unmolested. it can take out enemy princess, enemy pumps, and even enemy spawners. it has ridiculous number of combos such as with a mini pekka, minion, goblins, or any other swarm troop. i see a lot of decks i wanna copy. could go up higher in trophies with miner AND princess. and yes i'll shell out cash for it if i see it in the shop

also my win rate against sparky has gone up drastically. its weird because princess isnt supposed to counter sparky. but she can chip away at it and the support troops. and then after a zap and drop some troops to kill sparky, the princess can then be used to support the counter push.

current deck is
RG
Min pek
Canon
Princess
Stab gobs
Fireball
Zap
minion horde

the mini pekka is really good on defense because it can kill miner, wizard, hog, RG, giant, bomber, musketeer, and does pretty well 1v1 vs valk, prince, dark prince. mines only level 6 so that sucks, but a few days from getting it to 7. i tried barbs for defense but currently with bombers and witches being buffed, lots of people use them, and barbs can get shredded by them. with buffs to double prince pekka beatdown, the barbs melt quickly to them as well.

On July 12 2016 15:16 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2016 15:00 fishjie wrote:
I still think fireball the pump is too risky until you know what kind of cards they have. that means there is a small window you dont have fireball available, and it could be a lifesaver. poison is pretty safe for reasons you mentioned.

Djagulingu why dont you post your deck? Do you have a poison spell?

Hog trifecta is a skill based deck. I always drop tons of trophies when I try to use it. With legendaries you can drop them and even if you are bad they will still get you an advantage. This is why I hate sparky. Its a dumb all in build but the other side has to play better to defend it. For example, I am aware you can drop your units in a surround so sparky only kills one of them while the rest kill it. However I've lost too many games due to screwing that up. So now instead of using barbs to defeat sparky for a 1 elixer advantage, I always zap first then drop barbs, or distract with spear gobs then drop barbs, for a 1 elixer disadvantage. Most of the time I can win because sparky users are bad, but its still total bs.

I got back into legendary this weekend and was incredibly disappointed to not see any legendaries in shop. This morning I dropped out but got back in. I went on a 5 game lose streak, looked at the profiles and these were people in the 3000s, yet their previous trophy count was 3400-3500. wtf? I went onto reddit and saw that many people had similar experience. Seems the tourneys are bringing back a lot of inactives. Season resets are always rough and push people down, but it has been more rough than normal. I tried hog trifecta again and giant balloon but dropped too many trophies. My card levels for hut rg are highest so I'll stick with that since I am able to stay just on the cusp of legendary with it. Really want an ice wiz or a princess, those seem to work really well with RG.

My deck was giant witch minion horde musketeer mini pekka arrows barbs and... don't even remember the last card. Most likely spear goblins.

I changed that deck into zap, arrows, valkyrie, musketeer, tombstone, giant, barbs, minion horde. This has less troubles against hog shit, I guess? Against collectors, well, I used the infamous newbie strategy of "shoving meaty troops right onto the bridge" to some success. I have poison but it's just level 1, so it doesn't do shit.


have you considered just swapping out the giant in your current deck to hog? also i am on the fence about tombstone versus canon. canon does more damage, but tombstone is more versatile cause it can be used for pushing and defense. but zap nullifies it (zap after it dies) as does freeze (freeze after it dies).


BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 14 2016 13:09 GMT
#165
fyi, im in the legendaries are too strong camp too

that being said, i'm also in the "everyone can get a full set of legendaries as f2p anyway so it doesn't matter"

It's too easy to get to legendary arena once you're lvl 9, and from there buying legendaries (as long as you're max donating every day) becomes a piece of cake, as does your overall general card progression

i'm also in the "you don't need legendaries to get to legendary arena" - there are SOO many different non-legendary cheese decks you can run to get well into the 3500's as a lvl 9 if you need to
Merckinator
Profile Joined December 2009
United States15 Posts
July 15 2016 19:27 GMT
#166
What's a good clan for a newb to join? I just tried the game out today and it seems neat. So far it's just been pooping on kids though, but I just hit lvl 3 to unlock clans, so I haven't played it much lol
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
July 19 2016 01:08 GMT
#167
Find a clan with a coupla dozen peeps in it, and request and donate everyday it will help progression a lot

Update, I got an ice wiz in shop and forked out money for it because fuck it. If I see a miner I'll buy him too. Don't plan to spend money on any other legendaries as they don't seem as OP. Before the season end, I made it up to 3250 as highest trophies. Ended the season on 3128 after a bad string of losses over the weekend. Thoughts on legendary arena - it is boring as hell and i lack motivation to progress any more. Everyone is using the same type deck. I threw mine together and then realized that I had subconsciously copied it from everyone else:

RG
Princess
Ice wiz
Minions
Min pekka
Zap
Stab goblins
Canon

Some people replace RG with hog or use both
Minions and stab goblins are often replaced with other swarm units
Some people use inferno tower instead of canon or dont use a defensive building at all
And some people fit in elixer pump

But all the decks have a same feeling to them. It is refreshing to lose to different decks, I don't rage as much when I do. Except sparky. Sparky is bs. Its not OP, but sparky pushes are annoying all ins. I do a lot better vs them but occasionally still lose. RG and sparky is hard to deal with. If they're smart they'll have some cheap fire spirits to knock out your minions or goblins. They'll also play it at 1 minute mark, so up to that point you might think you're playing some standard deck and waste a zap.

Also I've played vs log and lumberjack and for the most part am underwhelmed. Wonder how they will buff them so that they become good. I am also confused why hog trifecta are not using ice spirit instead of skellies. Skellies got nerfed. Ice spirit is like a TWO SECOND zap, seems really powerful.

GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 20:29:21
July 19 2016 20:02 GMT
#168
Finally made it to Arena 5

I'm still only level 6 though and fighting through all these level 8's is annoying

Arena 3 was very difficult to get through but it seems like I just flew threw Arena 4

6 spear goblin
2 balloon
4 fireball
5 mini pekka
4 valkyrie
1 skeleton army
5 musketeer
5 minion horde

edit: and now im back down 150 points

how do all these people have the sparky suicideballs in arena 4 when it's from arena 5 -.-
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
July 22 2016 21:13 GMT
#169
I'm F2P Level 7 and at 2079 points with this deck.

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No epics/legendaries necessaryyy. Need to level my rares though qq. Matches are hard and I go through 200-point swings depending on how on point I am in matches/bit of luck.
Writer
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 21:49:32
July 22 2016 21:49 GMT
#170
I have stopped playing for a few weeks, I don't know what are the new OP decks for f2p near legendary arena after the new cards/updates. I dropped to 2.8k, but I got a lumberjack. What decks can I use to get back to 3k+ with princess and lumberjack available (not necessarily using one, but I don't have other legs)?
Thanks
WriterMaru
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
July 25 2016 11:02 GMT
#171
On July 23 2016 06:49 Poopi wrote:
I have stopped playing for a few weeks, I don't know what are the new OP decks for f2p near legendary arena after the new cards/updates. I dropped to 2.8k, but I got a lumberjack. What decks can I use to get back to 3k+ with princess and lumberjack available (not necessarily using one, but I don't have other legs)?
Thanks

Fast hog rider decks are fucking unstoppable right now with zero fucking counters in the game. You can just 1a2a3a with that shit into 5k.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 25 2016 13:39 GMT
#172
So I knew I stopped for a bit for a reason; it seems like everyone, and their mama's want a hog in my clan...
Life?
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1460 Posts
July 25 2016 14:02 GMT
#173
I got Sparky and I went up to 2000 until I dropped down back to 1800. Dammit.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
July 25 2016 20:47 GMT
#174
Get legendary cards, they help a lot against hogs, esp ice wiz which buy you tons of time against their push

Otherwise, drop a canon in the mid, never overcommit in any lane if u know they have a hog, otherwise it will ruin you
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 25 2016 20:59 GMT
#175
On July 25 2016 20:02 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 06:49 Poopi wrote:
I have stopped playing for a few weeks, I don't know what are the new OP decks for f2p near legendary arena after the new cards/updates. I dropped to 2.8k, but I got a lumberjack. What decks can I use to get back to 3k+ with princess and lumberjack available (not necessarily using one, but I don't have other legs)?
Thanks

Fast hog rider decks are fucking unstoppable right now with zero fucking counters in the game. You can just 1a2a3a with that shit into 5k.

not really

the most dominant decks at that level mostly involve triple legendary (payfecta) + arbitrary win condition. RG, hog, sparky, lavahound, you name it

musketeer and valk are still great alternatives to payfecta though, (and particularly with trifecta because hog pushes the valk. the musketeer not so much)
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-26 19:37:41
July 26 2016 18:22 GMT
#176
Twice in two games, my opponent drops a pump 0.4 seconds into the game and I get the single hand out of the following deck that can't punish this shit:

- Hog Rider
- Goblins
- Spear Goblins
- Barbs
- Musketeer
- Valkyrie
- Zap
- Fireball

I had 4 of the bottom 5 with the remaining as the next card.

EDIT: Remainder of the games are:

1- People who play with 5 more elixir than I do (at least that's the only explanation I can get for a person with 4.5 average elixir cost cycling as fast as I do with 3.3)
2- People who play with decks that can only win against mine
3- People who play gimmick decks
4- People who play bullshit but get away with it because I can't punish them within 15 seconds because I get the only distribution that prevents me to do that.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 26 2016 19:57 GMT
#177
if your opponent has 1 elixir (and realistically 2-3) then just drop valk/musket one lane and then when he starves himself to counter it drop something else in the other gg

I don't understand how anyone can be mad if you have an opponnent who is stupid enough to pop an elixir collector at 0s before building up first

you literally can counter it with any card and any deck by abusing their elixir starving

you could even just fireball it if you wanted to
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
July 26 2016 21:01 GMT
#178
On July 27 2016 04:57 BrTarolg wrote:
if your opponent has 1 elixir (and realistically 2-3) then just drop valk/musket one lane and then when he starves himself to counter it drop something else in the other gg

I don't understand how anyone can be mad if you have an opponnent who is stupid enough to pop an elixir collector at 0s before building up first

you literally can counter it with any card and any deck by abusing their elixir starving

you could even just fireball it if you wanted to

They did build up into 10 before putting down their pumps and I had nothing to punish them. In both games. I have no idea how much of a luck is needed to put down a pump at 10 and get away with it, against a hog goblins rush deck of all decks.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
July 26 2016 21:14 GMT
#179
Why can't we see our ping in the game. I have a lot of moments where I think it's laggy when it should not :/.
WriterMaru
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 27 2016 11:35 GMT
#180
On July 27 2016 06:01 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 04:57 BrTarolg wrote:
if your opponent has 1 elixir (and realistically 2-3) then just drop valk/musket one lane and then when he starves himself to counter it drop something else in the other gg

I don't understand how anyone can be mad if you have an opponnent who is stupid enough to pop an elixir collector at 0s before building up first

you literally can counter it with any card and any deck by abusing their elixir starving

you could even just fireball it if you wanted to

They did build up into 10 before putting down their pumps and I had nothing to punish them. In both games. I have no idea how much of a luck is needed to put down a pump at 10 and get away with it, against a hog goblins rush deck of all decks.


this is a COMPLETELY different situation

waiting and placing a pump at 10 is a very legitimate strategy, especially if you have supporting defense "kill" cards in your hand which can handle pretty much anything (good example is cannon + zap or something)
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