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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
February 15 2017 18:28 GMT
#1621
On February 16 2017 03:26 Alventenie wrote:
Compared to some of the people in this thread who had 5-6 in 8 summonings I would call it bad by comparison. I know its not that unlucky, but kinda is bleh to see people get lots of them (guy got 3 in one summon) and yet I only see 5 3* or still not even 1 5*


same thing here, all I got is a 5 Star Fae :/
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 15 2017 21:10 GMT
#1622
For every one guy with 3 5* in a session, there are thousands of dudes like you :D. At least they're honest in this game and tell you the odds of pulling. No surprise there.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-15 23:44:27
February 15 2017 23:43 GMT
#1623
I should complain about RNG in here more often :>
+ Show Spoiler [ 2 5-Star rolls] +

[image loading]
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
February 16 2017 01:14 GMT
#1624
After a total of 70 heros i have just opened my first 5 star tikiyoung and shes rated S class really happy to finally get one
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51567 Posts
February 16 2017 02:30 GMT
#1625
anyone know how well the new units are ranked? i got 2 takumi's so i can wait for a better event to pull.
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IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-16 02:48:51
February 16 2017 02:42 GMT
#1626
On February 16 2017 11:30 GTR wrote:
anyone know how well the new units are ranked? i got 2 takumi's so i can wait for a better event to pull.


Takumi is fantastic. He destroys story mode and he is pretty good in arena too. Only outclassed by a few units like Hector, linde, kagerou, and Lucina when it comes to big dmg

Ephraim is pretty bad
Eirika is only good in specific comps (nino and other buff teams)
Silphe (FE4 sword guy) is bad
Julia is good but I think she is outclassed by Hector and nino. But if you get her, she is not bad at all. She also hard counters nowi, tiki, linde, and Robin.

Didn't know we had a FEheroes thread here. TIL
I'm still so salty my 2nd 5 star was a Camila.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13992 Posts
February 16 2017 03:33 GMT
#1627
got to say though, the incest joke was fucking hilarious, great self-awareness from the writing team
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 16 2017 03:55 GMT
#1628
On February 16 2017 12:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
got to say though, the incest joke was fucking hilarious, great self-awareness from the writing team

Better writing than Fates.
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SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
February 16 2017 04:03 GMT
#1629
Honestly, I think the 5 stars should be rarer since they are THE top of the line. That being said they can't really progress much afterward (although I am sure they will add 6 stars eventually). In return, they should make upgrading from 4 star to 5 star more easily but that is just my opinion. The game is also really hard without 5 stars for some reason (might just be me) when you are playing on a stage that your character are suppose to be the right level for.

Very underwhelmed by this event. Time to bank 100 gem and wait for a more worth while event.
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
February 16 2017 04:09 GMT
#1630
On February 16 2017 12:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2017 12:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
got to say though, the incest joke was fucking hilarious, great self-awareness from the writing team

Better writing than Fates.


Doesn't say that much imo + Show Spoiler +
don't hit me


I got Julia and she is wrecking face so far. Also finding that Marth is frustratingly just worse than Lucina in like every aspect. Really have to abuse the AI to beat her in arena :\ or use 4* Sharena with buffs
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
February 16 2017 07:47 GMT
#1631
On February 16 2017 13:03 SheaR619 wrote:
Honestly, I think the 5 stars should be rarer since they are THE top of the line. That being said they can't really progress much afterward (although I am sure they will add 6 stars eventually). In return, they should make upgrading from 4 star to 5 star more easily but that is just my opinion. The game is also really hard without 5 stars for some reason (might just be me) when you are playing on a stage that your character are suppose to be the right level for.

Very underwhelmed by this event. Time to bank 100 gem and wait for a more worth while event.


Nah it's not just you. The final stages of Lunatic are incredibly hard, even with a fully leveled 5* team. Narcian event hard mode was tough too.

And as of this season, Arena is getting increasingly difficult too. I'm struggling to have 2+ survivors on Intermediate because the enemy team comps are getting increasingly tryhard.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
February 16 2017 08:08 GMT
#1632
Does the greet button work for anyone i have.t seen a single friend online in order to greet them but i constantly get people greeting me how is it that i never can return the favour
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
[-Bluewolf-]
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States609 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-16 18:46:18
February 16 2017 16:22 GMT
#1633
On February 13 2017 22:52 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2017 22:15 [-Bluewolf-] wrote:

I also have the feathers to upgrade a unit to 5-stars. Any thoughts from here on Effie vs Olivia vs Nowi as to which might be the best choice?



My experience vs armored units is that they will not win you many defences. The AI rushes forward from turn 1 so it results in 4v3 followed by 4v1. This is also the reason why I question Hector's SS tier but I guess he gets it all from offense. Also I have young Tiki who absolutely murders him.

So I'd pick one of the latter 2.


I ended up going with Nowi and adding her to my team just allowed me to break a 4400 score (one death during the run):
+ Show Spoiler +
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Beyond the recommendation, part of why I went with her is that my Effie's IV nature wasn't that great. Also turns out I've actually had pretty bad luck with most of my natures with almost all of my "good offense characters" being -ATK (including my Lucina that is -ATK, +HP that is likely the worst stat variance she can have imo). The stat variance is quite frustrating as it means not only do you have low odds of getting a 5-star unit but you also need the right version of that particular 5-star unit to be most effective.

Overall... I've spent some money since I did find the game enjoyable but am at the limit for what I want to put into it. I'll continue to enjoy it during my commutes but the game really is "pay to win" for its competitive scene that just stinks. There are many people who have put the money in to have merged their 5-star units ten times each for +20 to each of their stats. That puts them into a higher arena tier than those with just un-merged 5-star units can reach and those people thus earn more points for each win in arena that ensures a top ranking. No amount of skill, planning, or team composition can beat the fact one is earning less points for each arena victory. Them having stronger units should be reward enough for the very large amount of money they spent over just outright allowing them to buy the top ranked positions.

So for anyone following this thread worried about lacking "top tier" units: don't sweat it. Unless you spend thousands, it is impossible to crack the very top of the ladder, and thus it is best to just aim for being ranked at all. No sense in doing what I did and spending money to get a good base of characters since it doesn't open anything else up like a healthy competitive scene. Otherwise, the game is polished and well suited to mobile, so just enjoy it and see it as a personal challenge to beat stronger units with less ideal ones imo.
The melody of logic always plays the notes of truth.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-16 16:58:40
February 16 2017 16:58 GMT
#1634
I got a -SPD, +DEF Linde .
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-16 17:59:58
February 16 2017 17:57 GMT
#1635
Whoa whoa whoa, how do you know what your characters' IVs are?

Also I got 5* Julia from my most recent summon and she does SO MUCH damage, she has like 45 atk at level 27. I was kinda bummed when I got her since I was hoping for one of the other twins (Sacred Stones being a game I actually played), but I can't complain.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 16 2017 18:07 GMT
#1636
There are a couple IV calculators floating around, you can just google it.
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[-Bluewolf-]
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States609 Posts
February 16 2017 18:12 GMT
#1637
On February 17 2017 02:57 RuiBarbO wrote:
Whoa whoa whoa, how do you know what your characters' IVs are?

Also I got 5* Julia from my most recent summon and she does SO MUCH damage, she has like 45 atk at level 27. I was kinda bummed when I got her since I was hoping for one of the other twins (Sacred Stones being a game I actually played), but I can't complain.


Picture guide on how the IV's work in Fire Emblem Heroes: http://imgur.com/a/dpovR . Essentially each 5 star character will end up with one +3 stat and one -3 stat at level 40.

To determine IV's, use the calculator from: https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/fire-emblem-heroes-iv-calculator
Some of the values are off since they include buffs in a unit's kit at times. However, once you input the level 1 stats that do match up, you should still be able to tell which stat was low/high and by process of elimination know the other since all the other stats should match up.

In the case you don't have a level 1 five star character, you need to wait until around level 40, and then play around with the starting values to see what the IV was of that unit. If you have a 4-star character, there are some of those in there, but the best way to tell their IV to go to the upgrade screen with them since that will show what five star level one stats their unlocked potential will give that can then be used in the calculator. (Units keep their same stat tendencies when they are upgraded).

Alternatively, if you have multiple of a 4-star unit, you can figure out the baseline from comparing two units against each other (assuming they aren't the same IV).

Does that all make sense?

The melody of logic always plays the notes of truth.
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
February 17 2017 00:04 GMT
#1638
On February 17 2017 03:12 [-Bluewolf-] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 02:57 RuiBarbO wrote:
Whoa whoa whoa, how do you know what your characters' IVs are?

Also I got 5* Julia from my most recent summon and she does SO MUCH damage, she has like 45 atk at level 27. I was kinda bummed when I got her since I was hoping for one of the other twins (Sacred Stones being a game I actually played), but I can't complain.


Picture guide on how the IV's work in Fire Emblem Heroes: http://imgur.com/a/dpovR . Essentially each 5 star character will end up with one +3 stat and one -3 stat at level 40.

To determine IV's, use the calculator from: https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/fire-emblem-heroes-iv-calculator
Some of the values are off since they include buffs in a unit's kit at times. However, once you input the level 1 stats that do match up, you should still be able to tell which stat was low/high and by process of elimination know the other since all the other stats should match up.

In the case you don't have a level 1 five star character, you need to wait until around level 40, and then play around with the starting values to see what the IV was of that unit. If you have a 4-star character, there are some of those in there, but the best way to tell their IV to go to the upgrade screen with them since that will show what five star level one stats their unlocked potential will give that can then be used in the calculator. (Units keep their same stat tendencies when they are upgraded).

Alternatively, if you have multiple of a 4-star unit, you can figure out the baseline from comparing two units against each other (assuming they aren't the same IV).

Does that all make sense?



Yes.

So if I upgrade a 4* to a 5*, do the IVs reset? What about when you combine them? Or has nobody figured that out yet?
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 17 2017 00:05 GMT
#1639
Bluewolf's imgur link answers both of those questions. >.>
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[-Bluewolf-]
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States609 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-17 01:50:00
February 17 2017 01:48 GMT
#1640
On February 17 2017 09:04 RuiBarbO wrote:
So if I upgrade a 4* to a 5*, do the IVs reset? What about when you combine them? Or has nobody figured that out yet?


A. They don't reset.
B. When you combine them, your one you choose to keep stays with their IV but gains +2 overall bonus stats from the merge. For a level 40 unit, this would be level 40+1 and they would have two more total stat points than a normal level 40 unit. Also I believe if you use a level 40 and merge it with a level 40+x (like 40+4), the end unit becomes a 40+5 unit with that base units IV rather than the discarded 40+4 unit's IV.
The melody of logic always plays the notes of truth.
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