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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 12 2017 15:54 GMT
#1601
Seems like the amount of points you can win in an arena battle depend on the sum of your heroes' rating. And higher-starred heroes => more stats => more rating.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 16:12:36
February 12 2017 16:06 GMT
#1602
so i dont get the point of merging my heros together, apparently u can only do it if they are the same star rating, (you can do it if they arent but it doesnt give bonuses just a transfer of SP).

However once u upgrade their potential they lose all of the bonuses (i guess they keep the extra sp) i thought to merge my characters when they were both 5 stars but that seems impossible atm cause upgrading a hero to 5 stars seems freaken impossible without a ton of grinding.

I have a ton of low star duplicates and i dont know what to do with them or even why merging is even in the game cause it seems like a temp-boost to a character that doesnt really help for all the trouble its worth.

also according to this tier list, my team sucks balls
https://rankedboost.com/fire-emblem-heroes/tier-list-best-heroes/

i have a bunch of "C" and "D" heros on my team, i dont even have any of the B class heros....the only good one i have is that bigboobed girl who wears black and rides a dragon.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
[-Bluewolf-]
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States609 Posts
February 12 2017 16:47 GMT
#1603
On February 13 2017 01:06 Shock710 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
so i dont get the point of merging my heros together, apparently u can only do it if they are the same star rating, (you can do it if they arent but it doesnt give bonuses just a transfer of SP).

However once u upgrade their potential they lose all of the bonuses (i guess they keep the extra sp) i thought to merge my characters when they were both 5 stars but that seems impossible atm cause upgrading a hero to 5 stars seems freaken impossible without a ton of grinding.

I have a ton of low star duplicates and i dont know what to do with them or even why merging is even in the game cause it seems like a temp-boost to a character that doesnt really help for all the trouble its worth.

also according to this tier list, my team sucks balls
https://rankedboost.com/fire-emblem-heroes/tier-list-best-heroes/

i have a bunch of "C" and "D" heros on my team, i dont even have any of the B class heros....the only good one i have is that bigboobed girl who wears black and rides a dragon.


That seems to be a bit different from the tier list I use of: http://feheroes.wiki/Tier_List. For example, in my list, Azura is rated as "SS" that I agree with. "Sing" is just a broken ability and Blue units are strong in this meta. (If you search for her name on the full tier list page, they give the full justification for the ranking). Meanwhile, in your tier list, they rate her a "B" that doesn't make any sense to me.

Agreed that the merging seems kind of pointless if one has better than 4-star characters. However, you can release extra characters by sending them home for feathers that will allow for one to slowly make more 5-star characters though...
The melody of logic always plays the notes of truth.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 12 2017 21:10 GMT
#1604
AFAIK merging also reduces the feather cost for upgrading that character, so there's no reason to send someone home over merging if you were gonna upgrade the other copy of the character.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 02:22:45
February 13 2017 02:14 GMT
#1605
On February 13 2017 06:10 TheYango wrote:
AFAIK merging also reduces the feather cost for upgrading that character, so there's no reason to send someone home over merging if you were gonna upgrade the other copy of the character.

Is the reduection in feathers to upgrade permanent? If i merged 2 1stars into one and then increased the star potential wpuld going from 2stars to 3 also be cheaper? If not the reduction would have to be quite massive imagine having a 4 star character and u have a copy 2 stat character to get any bounses dont u have to lvl up that 2 star with badges and feathers which kinda negates the reduction?

Or if u were lucky/unlucky to get the same 4 star characters
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 09:14:35
February 13 2017 07:50 GMT
#1606
My season finish: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I imagine Rank still needs to be refreshed, just got this score.

7 advanced wins, 2 featured heroes, at least 7 deaths I lost track.. But certainly room for improvement.
I think you get higher base scores if the enemy team is all 40s, which is what I'm hitting now.

e: Rank got updated to 25505, so looks like 3500 feathers for me this season.
[-Bluewolf-]
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States609 Posts
February 13 2017 13:15 GMT
#1607
Final finish for me: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Had two or three deaths during the run. Did find out from elsewhere that points are indeed sort of based on the total stats of one's team. Or, to be more precise, it matches your team against others based on those stat totals which means you get opponents that will give you more points with more character stats. It also means that using high stats characters over utility characters can lead to an overall higher score (beyond the advantage 5-star units give to the potential score with their extra stats).

It is competitive enough that some players will quit once they see the list of teams it matched them with if they "Advanced" team doesn't offer the maximum score that they are aiming for. (You lose the sword icon but quitting at that point doesn't end the 7-streak run). A relatively complete guide about all of this can be found at: 4,500+ Arena Guide.

I also have the feathers to upgrade a unit to 5-stars. Any thoughts from here on Effie vs Olivia vs Nowi as to which might be the best choice?

The melody of logic always plays the notes of truth.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 13:54:31
February 13 2017 13:52 GMT
#1608
Finally did Narcian hard mode as well. Had to blow 3 stamina potions and keep making small changes to strategy each run, it's a pretty solid challenge.

On February 13 2017 22:15 [-Bluewolf-] wrote:

I also have the feathers to upgrade a unit to 5-stars. Any thoughts from here on Effie vs Olivia vs Nowi as to which might be the best choice?



My experience vs armored units is that they will not win you many defences. The AI rushes forward from turn 1 so it results in 4v3 followed by 4v1. This is also the reason why I question Hector's SS tier but I guess he gets it all from offense. Also I have young Tiki who absolutely murders him.

So I'd pick one of the latter 2.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
February 13 2017 14:25 GMT
#1609
how does everyone have like 3+ 5star characters have u guys just rolled them out of summoning or found some way to grind out those feathers and badges?
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
February 13 2017 14:29 GMT
#1610
I just got lucky, rolling 4 in ~8 summoning sessions. 2 Orbs short of a 9th session and I'm 2 dry atm so I'm fairly confident in my chances of getting a 5th soon.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3370 Posts
February 13 2017 18:01 GMT
#1611
Ugh, I'm getting frustrated by FE:H. My goal was to just play until I've gotten through Story Mode on Normal and summoned my favorite characters, but I've now beaten everything up until the last two chapters of Lunatic, where everything one-shots all of my chars. Don't have a single one of my favorite characters yet. So now the only way to get orbs is to play the daily missions which is too slow for me.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 13 2017 18:07 GMT
#1612
it's a common stage with these gacha style games. just log in daily and collect orbs. you'll get used to it
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
February 13 2017 18:18 GMT
#1613
On February 13 2017 23:29 Laurens wrote:
I just got lucky, rolling 4 in ~8 summoning sessions. 2 Orbs short of a 9th session and I'm 2 dry atm so I'm fairly confident in my chances of getting a 5th soon.


First roll in my new summoning session: 5* lucina xD

Great addition to my team, she will be replacing my Cain
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
February 15 2017 08:02 GMT
#1614
eirika ephraim seliph and julia are out, and paralogues are a thing, I can only imagine the reason being the incest joke
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
February 15 2017 10:17 GMT
#1615
10 extra orbs with the paralogues and the quests, awesome. Sadly I didn't get Takumi from deep devotion, but still cool to see new heroes.

Some more good news btw, Nintendo listening to feedback .

[image loading]


Awesome changes.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
February 15 2017 10:32 GMT
#1616
Yeah great changes all around.

Also happy to see that the extra Paralogue missions aren't all lvl 40, after how brutal the final Lunatic missions and Narcian hard quest were I was worried all new content would be equally hard.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-15 11:16:57
February 15 2017 11:04 GMT
#1617
On February 13 2017 23:25 Shock710 wrote:
how does everyone have like 3+ 5star characters have u guys just rolled them out of summoning or found some way to grind out those feathers and badges?

Just got lucky with summons tbh. I don't spend any money, but played through the whole story except for 9-5 lunatic. So that's 134 Orbs. Combined with the other free orbs you get, I did around 8 or 9 full summons, plus some where I only opened neutral summons looking for Takumi (without success...).

I started my account with 5* Lyn/Tharja in the first summon and since then got 5* Robin/Camilla/Maria/Catria.

So that's six 5* heroes for me, just through luck.

I've only spent feathers on upgrading some heroes to 4* so far. Some good 4* heroes are way better than crappy 5*s
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
February 15 2017 12:17 GMT
#1618
I've done 4 or 5 summons now and still no 5*. Bad luck definitely showing lol. My last summon was 5 3* heroes.

Some of my 4s are decent but would be nice to have a 5* as well. The upgrade is quite substantial to do from 4* to 5*.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 15 2017 16:17 GMT
#1619
Actually, not pulling a 5* out of 5 full summons isn't really that rare ;D. You've got like 20% chance of that happening to you. That's within "average luck" to me.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
February 15 2017 18:26 GMT
#1620
Compared to some of the people in this thread who had 5-6 in 8 summonings I would call it bad by comparison. I know its not that unlucky, but kinda is bleh to see people get lots of them (guy got 3 in one summon) and yet I only see 5 3* or still not even 1 5*
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