I think Conquest 8 is my favorite chapter in the game. There's plenty of threats and just so many ways to approach it, making it just fantastic for various challenge runs.

This female only run so far is pretty fun, with going almost broke despite selling almost everything and only having four heal staves left. Got the bottom three villages but didn't clear out the top right because I wanted the guard guage on Effie to reliably beat the Nosferatu vantage boss.

Cricketer12

United States14003 Posts

May 22 2016 05:27 GMT

#1183

On May 22 2016 14:25 chocorush wrote:
I think Conquest 8 is my favorite chapter in the game. There's plenty of threats and just so many ways to approach it, making it just fantastic for various challenge runs.

This female only run so far is pretty fun, with going almost broke despite selling almost everything and only having four heal staves left. Got the bottom three villages but didn't clear out the top right because I wanted the guard guage on Effie to reliably beat the Nosferatu vantage boss.

It's my favorite in conquest. 2nd overall.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

May 22 2016 07:40 GMT

#1184

Messing around with some of the child paralogues on my Rev save, it's really striking to me how vastly different the map quality is between the shared paralogues and the route-specific ones. While the Conquest ones are a step up from Birthright's, even Birthright's make an attempt at doing some interesting things, with mixed results.

With the singular exception of Sophie's paralogue, all of the other shared child paralogues (Kana, Dwyer, Midori, Shigure) feel like someone designed it in half an hour, and nobody playtested it before shipping it out. Sophie's paralogue isn't anything special, but it at least makes a nominal effort, with meaningful side goals, mixed enemy composition, and multiple paths through the level.

In a way, this is kind of what bothers me most about Fates: the strange mix of things that are well-thought out and huge steps forward for the series along with those that feel like the developers weren't even trying and just threw it in. We got great maps like Conquest 10, but we also got total trainwrecks like Birthright 18. I want to say this is just the consequence of making 3 games in the same time you would normally have made one: a lot of low-quality filler ends up in the game mixed in with the good stuff. But Awakening was also kind of guilty of the same thing if you compare the difference between it's best and worst maps as well, so IDK.

chocorush

696 Posts

May 22 2016 12:07 GMT

#1185

I just skip shared paralogues now in Conquest. Not only are they boring, but they really screw with the balance of the route with how much exp they give you.

Jaedrik

113 Posts

May 29 2016 04:04 GMT

#1186

You know Light Song?

https://soundcloud.com/jaedrik/male-light-song-lost-in-thoughts-all-alone

... I tried :D

ShiaoPi

TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts

May 29 2016 14:11 GMT

#1187

conquest map 12....

that moment after turn 16 finishes and you realize you totally misunderstood that you have to either escape or defeat the boss within 16 turns and not either run away in 16 or defeat the boss without a limit >_>
And I would have totally made it in time had I not been too focused on getting all the treasure and defeating the reinforcements too

Yes, I am not a very smart person

deth2munkies

United States4051 Posts

May 29 2016 15:00 GMT

#1188

On May 29 2016 23:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
conquest map 12....

that moment after turn 16 finishes and you realize you totally misunderstood that you have to either escape or defeat the boss within 16 turns and not either run away in 16 or defeat the boss without a limit >_>
And I would have totally made it in time had I not been too focused on getting all the treasure and defeating the reinforcements too

Yes, I am not a very smart person

Treasure isn't super hard, but getting those reinforcements can be. You'll get it second time

Frudgey

Canada3367 Posts

May 29 2016 18:12 GMT

#1189

Yes, I am not a very smart person

That happened to me as well!

I think the wording of the chapter is a little ambiguous to be honest.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

May 29 2016 18:15 GMT

#1190

It's worded as "Escape in 16 Turns or Defeat Boss" when it would be clearer if it was written as "Escape or Defeat Boss in 16 turns".

That said, I mostly don't bother to stay around defeating reinforcements like that. Fates's XP curve is such that the returns on wasting time to overlevel are pretty low when the XP curve drops so harshly for being overleveled.

chocorush

696 Posts

May 29 2016 22:27 GMT

#1191

I find its pretty hard to find turns to deal with those reinforcements if you're trying to take out Ryouma too.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

May 29 2016 22:30 GMT

#1192

It's pretty easy to do so on Hard, but that's cuz the Hard version of the map is kind of a joke with the DV placement.

Cricketer12

United States14003 Posts

June 21 2016 09:28 GMT

#1193

So Heirs of Fate was fun. Map 6 is exponentially easier from the second attempt onwards though.

Anyone interested in doing another Conquest draft?

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

June 21 2016 09:32 GMT

#1194

Still can't get this game on collectors edition in europe rip.

Cricketer12

United States14003 Posts

June 21 2016 09:43 GMT

#1195

On June 21 2016 18:32 Kipsate wrote:
Still can't get this game on collectors edition in europe rip.

You still trying? Fucking RIP m8.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

June 21 2016 12:01 GMT

#1196

From the outset, it was going to be hard for HoF 6 to be too difficult. The sheer number of good units the map gives you means its hard to make a challenge without it being ridiculously unfair. I'm ok with them erring on the side of the map being a bit too easy. As is, its already a better executed version of Rev endgame (more interesting things going on).

As for the whole pack, 5+6 are the stand out best maps, but 2 and 4 are also decent (1 and 3 suffer from using weak maps as their starting points, so there's a limit to how much they can improve). With the discount rate for the whole pack, I think it's a wothwhile pickup.

Honestly I'm ready to say that Hidden Truths + Heirs of Fate just supplant Revelation as the Fates story finale (and a better use of your $20 too). Together they do a better job of explaining Anankos and the IK than Rev does.

On June 21 2016 18:28 Cricketer12 wrote:
Anyone interested in doing another Conquest draft?

My last playthrough is on hold at c20 due to me forgetting to bring my 3ds with me to Japan, but if you're willing to wait a few days, sure.

If nothing else, it'll give me an excuse to try this Sky Knight avatar -> Falcoknight Jakob stuff I heard about from Gwimpage.

On June 21 2016 18:32 Kipsate wrote:
Still can't get this game on collectors edition in europe rip.

Just bite the bullet and buy Conquest, man. Your waifu is waiting!

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

June 21 2016 15:01 GMT

#1197

For the US release, I waited a month then just bought Birthright from Amazon then Conquest/Rev as DLC. My 3DS has enough space left for it. I was pretty annoyed at the whole thing.

Cricketer12

United States14003 Posts

June 21 2016 19:21 GMT

#1198

On June 21 2016 21:01 TheYango wrote:

Show nested quote +

My last playthrough is on hold at c20 due to me forgetting to bring my 3ds with me to Japan, but if you're willing to wait a few days, sure.

Sure thing bud

Edit: Japan? That sounds fun.

Frudgey

Canada3367 Posts

June 21 2016 23:21 GMT

#1199

God I still haven't done my draft run. I haven't even started!

I feel like I let everyone down.

It was still fun to participate in the draft!

Cricketer12

United States14003 Posts

June 22 2016 01:18 GMT

#1200

On June 22 2016 08:21 Frudgey wrote:
God I still haven't done my draft run. I haven't even started!

I feel like I let everyone down.

It was still fun to participate in the draft!

Loooool #brokenpromises