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Cricketer12
United States13988 Posts
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On May 10 2017 20:19 Cricketer12 wrote: I started to build a horse team with eliwood cecilia ursula xander yesterday. Amazingly I got rein off a yolo summon today, so replaced ursula for him. Cecilia has a nino tome. Eliwood is at base right now, xander has the +6 def/res adjacent skill (hone cav?). Rein is also at base. Nice! How is it working out? I wonder how effective the highly offensive teams will be with the defensive tiles going forward. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13988 Posts
On May 11 2017 00:06 Logo wrote: Nice! How is it working out? I wonder how effective the highly offensive teams will be with the defensive tiles going forward. Training Rein is the most hilariously easy thing ever, and cecilia uses gronnblade well enough. | ||
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RuiBarbO
United States1340 Posts
I want to put something other than Guard on Titania since she usually kills in one round and the special cd increase is pretty redundant, but I'm not sure what yet. Seal skills seem pretty pointless for the same reason, so probably something like drag back or even pass is what I'll go with. We'll see. | ||
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Varanice
United States1517 Posts
I need to figure out my plan for the next few weeks though, don't really have a solid bonus hero for the next rotation, I don't think. Does anyone remember which starter character is in the rotation next? Anyone theorycrafted some interesting builds for Alphonse/Sharena? I'll share some of my SI builds after finals are over this week. | ||
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ykl
Malaysia541 Posts
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On May 11 2017 11:25 Varanice wrote:I need to figure out my plan for the next few weeks though, don't really have a solid bonus hero for the next rotation, I don't think. Does anyone remember which starter character is in the rotation next? Anyone theorycrafted some interesting builds for Alphonse/Sharena? I'll share some of my SI builds after finals are over this week. I think it rotates Alphonse -> Sharena -> Anna so our boy Alfy is next.On May 11 2017 11:48 ykl wrote: Eventually it may be worth it to upgrade them because they are bonus units in arena every week. That's more of a long-term goal though. You should prioritize other units first though to build a basic lineup. If you have no green or blue then you could use Anna or Sharena to fill in temporarily. Feathers are hard to come by initially and as you continue on they remain relatively rare so powering up any stronger units you find would be my first priority.So, little bit of a noob question on FE:Heroes, is it worth it to upgrade the story trio: Anna, Alfonse and Sharena? I get the whole tingly new player trap feeling with the free stuff. Game also gave me a Matthew, Raigh and Virion for free, not sure how good any of them are or if it is worth to spend time and resources to upgrade and level them. Matthew/Raigh/Virion are super meh so I would only focus on them if you love the characters. A free unit that is very good is Olivia the red dancer. She isn't super strong by herself but her ability is quite rare and makes your stronger characters very dangerous. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On May 11 2017 11:48 ykl wrote: So, little bit of a noob question on FE:Heroes, is it worth it to upgrade the story trio: Anna, Alfonse and Sharena? I get the whole tingly new player trap feeling with the free stuff. Game also gave me a Matthew, Raigh and Virion for free, not sure how good any of them are or if it is worth to spend time and resources to upgrade and level them. If you mean you got matt raigh and virion from the prbs u open at the start of the game i would strongly recommend restarting the game like erase data and start game and keep restarting/rerolling until you hit a decent 5star unit or two. Many people already did this at the release of the game, but its even more critcal for you as many of the missions to get free stuff require you to have strong units, and you would be surprised at how fast a 5star can lvl up to 40 if they are one of the top teir ones. While sharena is decent and the other two okayish having them with ur 5star makes a way better lineup than whatever you have atm. You would be hard pressed to complete grand hero battles (a battle that lets you get new and unique heros) without the advantage of time that others have had to lvlup a variety of units. Edit: basically if u havnt invested a huge amount of time reroll for better stuff | ||
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ykl
Malaysia541 Posts
On May 11 2017 12:59 Shock710 wrote: If you mean you got matt raigh and virion from the prbs u open at the start of the game i would strongly recommend restarting the game like erase data and start game and keep restarting/rerolling until you hit a decent 5star unit or two. Many people already did this at the release of the game, but its even more critcal for you as many of the missions to get free stuff require you to have strong units, and you would be surprised at how fast a 5star can lvl up to 40 if they are one of the top teir ones. While sharena is decent and the other two okayish having them with ur 5star makes a way better lineup than whatever you have atm. You would be hard pressed to complete grand hero battles (a battle that lets you get new and unique heros) without the advantage of time that others have had to lvlup a variety of units. Edit: basically if u havnt invested a huge amount of time reroll for better stuff Hmm, I got Virion from the 2nd prologue mission and right after that mission Matthew and Raigh appeared in my hero inventory basically out of nowhere if that is what you mean by the PRBS (idk what is this tbh). Didn't know those are randomised actually so I may try to reroll if there's really no penalty to restarting. What should I aim for, I'm not quite sure what is a "decent" 5 star. I've kinda recognise that it'd take me a while to catch up level-wise, but from reading the Grand Battle news event, it seems that they rotate in once in a while? So I wouldn't completely miss out on Ursula even if I didn't manage to beat the mission by the time it closes this time around? | ||
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RuiBarbO
United States1340 Posts
On May 11 2017 13:51 ykl wrote: Hmm, I got Virion from the 2nd prologue mission and right after that mission Matthew and Raigh appeared in my hero inventory basically out of nowhere if that is what you mean by the PRBS (idk what is this tbh). Didn't know those are randomised actually so I may try to reroll if there's really no penalty to restarting. What should I aim for, I'm not quite sure what is a "decent" 5 star. I've kinda recognise that it'd take me a while to catch up level-wise, but from reading the Grand Battle news event, it seems that they rotate in once in a while? So I wouldn't completely miss out on Ursula even if I didn't manage to beat the mission by the time it closes this time around? Yeah Virion, Raigh, and Matthew are given to you at the start, without any variation. I think "prbs" is a typo for "orbs." Basically, here's what he means: other than through bonus maps, the only way you get new heroes now is by summoning them with orbs. Now, 5 star characters in general are quite a bit stronger than their 4 star counterparts (especially if they have special weapons like Falchion), and it's also really costly to upgrade someone from 4 stars to 5 (20,000 feathers and 20 big badges, to be exact). So at the start of the game, when you have tons of orbs and no feathers or badges, it's infinitely easier to just get lucky and pull a 5 star from summoning. To figure out whether you should reroll, you go to the summoning page and spend all your orbs and see if you get a good 5 star character (I don't know where you find an up-to-date tier list, probably Reddit or someone here will know), and if you spend all your orbs and get nothing, you erase your data and start again. One other tip: whenever you summon, you start by picking a "focus" - basically a group of heroes you'll have a higher chance of pulling as a 5 star. Out of the focuses available right now, I'd recommend going with either the female mages (Linde and Julia are definitely top-tier) or Path of Radiance (Ike in particular is very good). | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On May 10 2017 11:24 RuiBarbO wrote: Is it just me or are the new arena maps way harder? I think the defensive bonuses move a lot of the previous thresholds I was abusing so that now, for example, my Nowi can't one-shot Marth or use bowbreaker to 1-round kill Takumi. That and I'm still stuck with using freaking Titania for bonus points unless I want to turn Zephiel into a 5*. I find them easier actually but maybe that's just the new arena matchmaking update too or something. I encounter way less "bullshit" teams. Also it probably depends on your strategy. I'm using a defensive style, I just let the opponents crash into me and usually I can pick where the fight will happen. The AI seems really easy to manipulate around the new maps, and they leave you quite a bit of time to set up too (unlike some of the old maps where you can be in range of like 2-3 horse emblem dudes within the first turn :D). Just got a 4842 deathless on my second run, with Nowi (+2), Hector, Sheena, Ike. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On May 11 2017 13:51 ykl wrote: Hmm, I got Virion from the 2nd prologue mission and right after that mission Matthew and Raigh appeared in my hero inventory basically out of nowhere if that is what you mean by the PRBS (idk what is this tbh). Didn't know those are randomised actually so I may try to reroll if there's really no penalty to restarting. What should I aim for, I'm not quite sure what is a "decent" 5 star. I've kinda recognise that it'd take me a while to catch up level-wise, but from reading the Grand Battle news event, it seems that they rotate in once in a while? So I wouldn't completely miss out on Ursula even if I didn't manage to beat the mission by the time it closes this time around? Yep sry its been so long since the start i forgot theres a couple u get for free that arent part of the rotation. And yes that was a typo for orbs opps im on my phone. But basically heroes that ur looking out for are hector, ryoma, thraja, linde, kagero, reinhart, nowi, lucina those are off the top of my head and btw nowi comes in a 4star form, so just reroll for a 5star mentioned above. Even tho the banners are rotating for example ursula this is her 2nd time coming out and who knowes if she or the others who have come back again will return for a 3rd time as new. However specials events that provide orbs dont seem to be rerunning and some of them are gated by "lunatic" mode aka lvl40 units that can be pimped out in skills that wouldnt normally have. Aside from using skill inheritance most low star units dont cut it (unless ur mkv) however you dont have the option to pimp out lesser characters atm due to just having started with no bank of feathers or badges and a sheer lack of units. Ur best bet is to have two 5stars lvl 40 (dw theyll hit that fast especially with this 1.5x exp event and that fact that they wreck face. Remember if a unit dies in mission/traininh battle they dont retain any exp they got instead it would be like if they never participated.) And sharena and someone else who u like. Later on ur game is open to whoever u want to build or use orbs to get. But currently the advice im giving is so that u dont miss out on stuff and feel like theres no way to catch up to current players because u cant beat grand hero battle or get orbs from quests arent achievable due to weak units or feel u cant do anything in arena (having 5stars in arena matters a ton, as their unique weapon access to higher tier skills and the fact they are 5stars give you more points for more feathers/and now orbs) | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On May 11 2017 13:51 ykl wrote: Have you used your orbs to summon yet? If you have, you could let us know what you got and we could tell you how worthwhile your pulls are.Hmm, I got Virion from the 2nd prologue mission and right after that mission Matthew and Raigh appeared in my hero inventory basically out of nowhere if that is what you mean by the PRBS (idk what is this tbh). Didn't know those are randomised actually so I may try to reroll if there's really no penalty to restarting. What should I aim for, I'm not quite sure what is a "decent" 5 star. I've kinda recognise that it'd take me a while to catch up level-wise, but from reading the Grand Battle news event, it seems that they rotate in once in a while? So I wouldn't completely miss out on Ursula even if I didn't manage to beat the mission by the time it closes this time around? | ||
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ykl
Malaysia541 Posts
On May 11 2017 21:20 calgar wrote: Have you used your orbs to summon yet? If you have, you could let us know what you got and we could tell you how worthwhile your pulls are. Just done my first set of 5: Fir, Henry, Frederik, Stahl, Tharja. Tharja at 5 star, everything else at 3. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13988 Posts
On May 11 2017 23:03 ykl wrote: Just done my first set of 5: Fir, Henry, Frederik, Stahl, Tharja. Tharja at 5 star, everything else at 3. Tharja is ok if you have support for her tome. But you can (should) restart for something better. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On May 11 2017 23:33 Cricketer12 wrote: Tharja is ok if you have support for her tome. But you can (should) restart for something better. yeah, try rerolling for 2 5stars, if u have the time. Tharja is a great hero once u get going shes amazing with the right support like nino and shes not too bad raw due her to high speed. or roll a single hector, i dont think hes dropped off from the highest teir in any list regardless of meta | ||
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ykl
Malaysia541 Posts
On May 11 2017 23:53 Shock710 wrote: yeah, try rerolling for 2 5stars, if u have the time. Tharja is a great hero once u get going shes amazing with the right support like nino and shes not too bad raw due her to high speed. or roll a single hector, i dont think hes dropped off from the highest teir in any list regardless of meta Okay, I started over and rushing for 20 orbs for the first pull. The redownloads are a pain. Edit: Oh got a Cordelia (4), Jagen, Nino, Gaius and Donnel. Looks strictly worse than before. Meh. | ||
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RuiBarbO
United States1340 Posts
On May 11 2017 23:53 Shock710 wrote: yeah, try rerolling for 2 5stars, if u have the time. Tharja is a great hero once u get going shes amazing with the right support like nino and shes not too bad raw due her to high speed. or roll a single hector, i dont think hes dropped off from the highest teir in any list regardless of meta Two 5 stars might take a while though, so if you just want to get to the game then there are some 5 stars you could probably go with solo to start. Ryoma, Ike, Lucina, Linde, Marth, Nowi... Maybe throw Julia and Hector in there too. Most of those guys have huge attack and speed and basically just destroy anything for a large portion of the game, while Hector and Nowi are more high-defense, high damage, counter-at-all-distances units. Just don't settle for a 5 star staff user or you'll be disappointed. Edit: Okay, I started over and rushing for 20 orbs for the first pull. The redownloads are a pain. Edit: Oh got a Cordelia (4), Jagen, Nino, Gaius and Donnel. Looks strictly worse than before. Meh. Yeah, that's what I mean. Imo if you just wanna play, one 5 star is fine. | ||
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ykl
Malaysia541 Posts
On May 12 2017 00:28 RuiBarbO wrote: Two 5 stars might take a while though, so if you just want to get to the game then there are some 5 stars you could probably go with solo to start. Ryoma, Ike, Lucina, Linde, Marth, Nowi... Maybe throw Julia and Hector in there too. Most of those guys have huge attack and speed and basically just destroy anything for a large portion of the game, while Hector and Nowi are more high-defense, high damage, counter-at-all-distances units. Just don't settle for a 5 star staff user or you'll be disappointed. Edit: Yeah, that's what I mean. Imo if you just wanna play, one 5 star is fine. Huh, rerolled several times with no 5s but finally rolled into a 5 star Alm and a 4 star Marth. Other 3 are Raigh, Jagen Cherche. Worth keeping? Too bad Alm and Marth are both the same type, might be awkward to stack them both together into a team right? | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
Marth is kinda useless at 4star being a falcion user as such. So definitely dont keep that. Heres a list of a semi-rating on stand alone power. So u dont need to post and wait for every reroll. But i do wanna hear the results when u decide to keep :D Fantastic just keep (not in any order) + Show Spoiler + -Ike [Melee but his unique weapon allows him to counter attack regardless of distance, tanky with good attack] -Lucina [everyones lovable girl, has falcion weapon that owns dragon heroes and has built in healing, very fast so she can double hit others] -Ryoma [Melee but unique weapons allows him to counter attack, hes basically Ike with slightly different distribution of stats] -Linde [High magic attack, high speed, cute outfit what more do u want just one of the best base mages] -Hector [melee with unique weapon that allows him to counter attack regardless of distance, stupidly high def and high atk] -Kagero [a glass cannon, that blows up all infantry units] -Julia [Her unique weapon wrecks dragons and gives a slight defensive boost to her, very high magic damage] -Nowi [a melee MAGIC user with a unique weapon to counter attack regardless of distance, tanky and uses magic rather than physical] -Reinhart [basically a guy riding a horse with a magic shot gun, has great closing distance due to horse and crazy fire power with the shotgun] -Marth [worse than someone else pretending to be him] If your not hitting these guys, just reroll. I personally dont agree with Marth being on the list just because his other skills kinda blow and thus require skill inheritance These next heroes are worth having, if u rolled two 5stars that arent mentioned from above. + Show Spoiler + -Eirika -Young Tiki -Effie -Thraja -Takumi -Alm -Ephraim -Azura -Robin (male) -Klein -Chrom Theres a couple more that are alright...but w/e heres a start, i think i got everyone in the top list. Again alot of these heroes have very unique weapons at 5stars so hitting a 4star version just sucks  because the requires to upgrade for you are going to be months away, and until then they're as good as any other free unit (aka stat distribution). | ||
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