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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-02 21:15:41
August 02 2015 21:15 GMT
#121
1:7 into 13: 9? With 7 loses on number advantage alone on CT side for TL.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
August 02 2015 21:17 GMT
#122
Oh well GG I guess, pretty slick to just ram it like that in the last round
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 02 2015 21:17 GMT
#123
Like i said they seriously need a coach, a proven one, the problem, as you can see it, its that they lacksome basics movements for defense, they dont know what to do with an advantage or how to read enemies movement.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
August 02 2015 21:18 GMT
#124
that was brutal loss.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 02 2015 21:18 GMT
#125
Deserved for TL. If you don't give a shit about winning and playing the game then you shouldn't go to the biggest tournament.

This is the first time I'm actively in favour of dropping the roster. This is... embarrasing.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 02 2015 21:19 GMT
#126
Liquid so good getting a man advantage, but still loses the round. It almost seems Liquid does better when they start with a man down. I hope we have some changes with Liquid.
Don't mind me
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 02 2015 21:21 GMT
#127
On August 03 2015 06:19 ptbl wrote:
Liquid so good getting a man advantage, but still loses the round. It almost seems Liquid does better when they start with a man down. I hope we have some changes with Liquid.

But what do you want to change? Especially in NA? So few options
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 02 2015 21:29 GMT
#128
How can you lose to the same mid connector push for 6 rounds in a row. It wasn't even like CLG was doing anything super sick strats , just smoke window , smoke catwalk and rush 3 people through mid connector everytime and Liquid fell for it every time.

They will probably have some changes , they kinda need to though. Adren doesn't cut it as an IGL for me. A proper IGL would do wonders with the Talent on this team.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 02 2015 21:35 GMT
#129
On August 03 2015 06:21 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 06:19 ptbl wrote:
Liquid so good getting a man advantage, but still loses the round. It almost seems Liquid does better when they start with a man down. I hope we have some changes with Liquid.

But what do you want to change? Especially in NA? So few options


LG dropped their team mythic and Nihilum dropped their csgo team. They have some good players. Maybe Liquid could grab some players from these two teams.
Don't mind me
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 02 2015 23:03 GMT
#130
On August 03 2015 06:35 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 06:21 TheNewEra wrote:
On August 03 2015 06:19 ptbl wrote:
Liquid so good getting a man advantage, but still loses the round. It almost seems Liquid does better when they start with a man down. I hope we have some changes with Liquid.

But what do you want to change? Especially in NA? So few options


LG dropped their team mythic and Nihilum dropped their csgo team. They have some good players. Maybe Liquid could grab some players from these two teams.

but who to go and who to stay? Adren, the week IGL or Flowsick the underperformer? Elige and Nitro? Who are according to daps more concerned with their ingame stats than tactics?
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
August 02 2015 23:34 GMT
#131
Adren would seem obious to me.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-03 01:21:34
August 03 2015 01:19 GMT
#132
I would keep Elige, Nitro and Adren if you cant find a better awper, otherwise build a team around those 2... get a IGL with decent skills and a riffler/support player.

I dont like an AWPer being In game leader, it feels wrong.

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 03 2015 07:38 GMT
#133
Karrigan does an insane job of being the IGL while being the AWP. Adren's just not a good mid round caller which is extremely huge in this game. I could see flashes of brilliance from Adren when Daps used to call and he only had to focus on the Awping.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
August 03 2015 08:05 GMT
#134
Adren is terrible with the AWP and his ingame leading doesn't seem great either, I see no reason keeping him. I can't even think of a singIe NA OPer I'd consider worse than adren. Don't understand why you'd cut fugly, he's the best on the team.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-03 15:36:42
August 03 2015 15:36 GMT
#135
Liquid`Hiko
Liquid`Devilwalk
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-03 16:53:52
August 03 2015 16:51 GMT
#136
Adren is definitly the one I would cut. He is a very mediocre, or even poor, IGL when it comes to actual games. I know he has a lot of knowledge, but it doesnt seem to transfer in the matches at all and his personnality might also hinder his teammates a lot (negativity etc.. Steel and Daps had great points about that in the Thorin episode about NA).
His skills as a player are not that great either, especially compared to the other players in TL. He is the most obvious choice.

Also, I don't think Hiko would work with that team. They need a solid IGL. Other than that, they probably already have the most gifted squad in NA.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 04 2015 12:01 GMT
#137


Steel's match review for that TL vs CLG cache game.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 04 2015 13:32 GMT
#138
Ill take Devilwalk, without a doubt.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 04 2015 15:19 GMT
#139
On August 04 2015 22:32 Faruko wrote:
Ill take Devilwalk, without a doubt.

I'm only following CS:GO since the beginning of the year and usually I only watch NA so excuse me for this question: Isn't Devilwalk kind of known for his behaviour? And not in the positive way? Because I don't think TL would take a player with questionable behaviour.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 04 2015 20:26 GMT
#140
On August 05 2015 00:19 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 22:32 Faruko wrote:
Ill take Devilwalk, without a doubt.

I'm only following CS:GO since the beginning of the year and usually I only watch NA so excuse me for this question: Isn't Devilwalk kind of known for his behaviour? And not in the positive way? Because I don't think TL would take a player with questionable behaviour.

I always saw Devilwalk as a great guy and a really good teammate. Unless i am missing something, you might be referring to the infamous "olofpass" interview after the overpass match where they "pixelboosted" their way to victory. The circlejerking community gave him shit for being so happy about the victory in the interview.

The real reason Devilwalk would not be such a good fit would be because he is not that gifted as a player, which is the reason why he stepped down from playing with Fnatic and became their coach for a long time. Now he wants to be a player again, but I dont know if he can really compete in terms of skills. Then again, he would be there to be the IGL i guess? The other problem would be that he is not from NA and would have to lead an all-NA team.
But then again, its not like NA has that many options to offer in terms of good IGLs, especially with Dazed and Steel banned.
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