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The North American offline qualifier will take place from Saturday August 1st to Sunday August 2nd at the Los Angeles Studio. Eight teams will face off for a total of two slots at the ESL One Cologne 2015 tournament.
Two double elimination brackets with eight teams per bracket in a best-of-one format. The top two teams from each group will secure their spot at the ESL One Cologne 2015 tournament.
On August 02 2015 03:02 amazingxkcd wrote: Wait a minute, is NitrO calling now? he's in the IGL seat...
Maybe they just decided to change the seating arrangements. I think Adren is still igl.
edit- they did bootcamp at redbull studios for 5 days. It's probably something they thought would be more productive to change the seating arrangements.
On August 02 2015 04:16 FFW_Rude wrote: Ok i have a stupid noob question. Why do they have their keyboard turns 90° ?
Oftentimes at LANs there isn't much room on the desk, so it allows for more room to move the mouse. It can also be a bit easier on the wrist. A lot of these keyboard turns are seen as a bit... excessive.
Team Liquid is a frustrating team to watch and support. They have this mental slip ups that is so annoying and irritating. I was hoping they would clean these up at their bootcamp, but seems like nothing has change. It's the same old same old. What's the point of having a bootcamp if you aren't going to fix your flaws.
On August 02 2015 04:58 ptbl wrote: Team Liquid is a frustrating team to watch and support. They have this mental slip ups that is so annoying and irritating. I was hoping they would clean these up at their bootcamp, but seems like nothing has change. It's the same old same old. What's the point of having a bootcamp if you aren't going to fix your flaws.
afaik, the bootcamp didnt happen yet, was supposed to happen later.
On August 02 2015 04:58 ptbl wrote: Team Liquid is a frustrating team to watch and support. They have this mental slip ups that is so annoying and irritating. I was hoping they would clean these up at their bootcamp, but seems like nothing has change. It's the same old same old. What's the point of having a bootcamp if you aren't going to fix your flaws.
afaik, the bootcamp didnt happen yet, was supposed to happen later.
They had a 5 day bootcamp at redbull studios this week,
On August 03 2015 05:22 ptbl wrote: Looks like CLG will be advancing to Cologne. Liquid making so many mistakes. I don't ever recall TL taking mid control to neutralize JDM.
Agreed. Man Liquid is always looking good until they make dumb fuckups... I mean it's crazy that they still got 9 rounds even though getting anti eco'd twice and never controlling mid
4 rounds played after Halfpoint. 3 times number advantage for TL. All 4 lost. TL can't even feel comfortable in 5 vs1 situations Edit: 4 out of 6 rounds with Number advantage. All lost
Like i said they seriously need a coach, a proven one, the problem, as you can see it, its that they lacksome basics movements for defense, they dont know what to do with an advantage or how to read enemies movement.
Liquid so good getting a man advantage, but still loses the round. It almost seems Liquid does better when they start with a man down. I hope we have some changes with Liquid.
On August 03 2015 06:19 ptbl wrote: Liquid so good getting a man advantage, but still loses the round. It almost seems Liquid does better when they start with a man down. I hope we have some changes with Liquid.
But what do you want to change? Especially in NA? So few options
How can you lose to the same mid connector push for 6 rounds in a row. It wasn't even like CLG was doing anything super sick strats , just smoke window , smoke catwalk and rush 3 people through mid connector everytime and Liquid fell for it every time.
They will probably have some changes , they kinda need to though. Adren doesn't cut it as an IGL for me. A proper IGL would do wonders with the Talent on this team.
On August 03 2015 06:19 ptbl wrote: Liquid so good getting a man advantage, but still loses the round. It almost seems Liquid does better when they start with a man down. I hope we have some changes with Liquid.
But what do you want to change? Especially in NA? So few options
LG dropped their team mythic and Nihilum dropped their csgo team. They have some good players. Maybe Liquid could grab some players from these two teams.
On August 03 2015 06:19 ptbl wrote: Liquid so good getting a man advantage, but still loses the round. It almost seems Liquid does better when they start with a man down. I hope we have some changes with Liquid.
But what do you want to change? Especially in NA? So few options
LG dropped their team mythic and Nihilum dropped their csgo team. They have some good players. Maybe Liquid could grab some players from these two teams.
but who to go and who to stay? Adren, the week IGL or Flowsick the underperformer? Elige and Nitro? Who are according to daps more concerned with their ingame stats than tactics?
I would keep Elige, Nitro and Adren if you cant find a better awper, otherwise build a team around those 2... get a IGL with decent skills and a riffler/support player.
I dont like an AWPer being In game leader, it feels wrong.
Karrigan does an insane job of being the IGL while being the AWP. Adren's just not a good mid round caller which is extremely huge in this game. I could see flashes of brilliance from Adren when Daps used to call and he only had to focus on the Awping.
Adren is terrible with the AWP and his ingame leading doesn't seem great either, I see no reason keeping him. I can't even think of a singIe NA OPer I'd consider worse than adren. Don't understand why you'd cut fugly, he's the best on the team.
Adren is definitly the one I would cut. He is a very mediocre, or even poor, IGL when it comes to actual games. I know he has a lot of knowledge, but it doesnt seem to transfer in the matches at all and his personnality might also hinder his teammates a lot (negativity etc.. Steel and Daps had great points about that in the Thorin episode about NA). His skills as a player are not that great either, especially compared to the other players in TL. He is the most obvious choice.
Also, I don't think Hiko would work with that team. They need a solid IGL. Other than that, they probably already have the most gifted squad in NA.
On August 04 2015 22:32 Faruko wrote: Ill take Devilwalk, without a doubt.
I'm only following CS:GO since the beginning of the year and usually I only watch NA so excuse me for this question: Isn't Devilwalk kind of known for his behaviour? And not in the positive way? Because I don't think TL would take a player with questionable behaviour.
On August 04 2015 22:32 Faruko wrote: Ill take Devilwalk, without a doubt.
I'm only following CS:GO since the beginning of the year and usually I only watch NA so excuse me for this question: Isn't Devilwalk kind of known for his behaviour? And not in the positive way? Because I don't think TL would take a player with questionable behaviour.
I always saw Devilwalk as a great guy and a really good teammate. Unless i am missing something, you might be referring to the infamous "olofpass" interview after the overpass match where they "pixelboosted" their way to victory. The circlejerking community gave him shit for being so happy about the victory in the interview.
The real reason Devilwalk would not be such a good fit would be because he is not that gifted as a player, which is the reason why he stepped down from playing with Fnatic and became their coach for a long time. Now he wants to be a player again, but I dont know if he can really compete in terms of skills. Then again, he would be there to be the IGL i guess? The other problem would be that he is not from NA and would have to lead an all-NA team. But then again, its not like NA has that many options to offer in terms of good IGLs, especially with Dazed and Steel banned.