EPTshotgun seems to have higher base damage, puts my guy in less danger and has better crit chance.
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
shotgun seems to have higher base damage, puts my guy in less danger and has better crit chance. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22003 Posts
On February 07 2016 10:41 Frolossus wrote: why do i ever want to use a sword over a shotgun? shotgun seems to have higher base damage, puts my guy in less danger and has better crit chance. And at close range the shotgun is probably more likely to hit. And some enemies are immune to melee and hit you instead when you try. It looks great in concept. Doesnt work so well in practice imo. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
it does have the advantage of not spending ammo but Shotgun has a decent amount of rounds. | ||
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Talaris
Switzerland753 Posts
On February 07 2016 10:41 Frolossus wrote: why do i ever want to use a sword over a shotgun? shotgun seems to have higher base damage, puts my guy in less danger and has better crit chance. Simple answer, built-in hit and run if you end in melee range. Not sure if you need/want that, but it's a definitive advantage. The flat +20% to-hit for the sword is a joke admittedly, esp. as shotguns get up to +40(?) at 1 tile distance.... could be viable at +30% (so a rookie gets to 95% hit chance and higher level agents wil get 100%) --- or alternatively perhaps give the +2dmg perk also +10 aim, that way stun lancers wont get even more painful :D :D Shouldn't be that OP considering the aikido moves of some enemies... | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Edit: Yes, it can crit. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On February 07 2016 11:21 Plansix wrote: The zero ammo spend is pretty good and you can attack after a full run without putting the run and gun perk on cool down. And if you spec for it, it does really damage almost equal to the shotgun. Edit: Yes, it can crit. Also, before you get Tier 2 weapon, swords do much more damage, especially speccing for it. | ||
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Talaris
Switzerland753 Posts
On February 07 2016 11:20 SagaZ wrote: Can the melee sword crit btw? I never use it.. 10% critchance (like a sniper rifle) if I remember correctly. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22003 Posts
After T1 its damage falls off compared to the shotgun and I'm pretty sure your going to crit a whole lot more with the gun then the sword. One of my 3 Rangers is sword specced and I should get around to changing him since I haven't used his sword in ages. Imo the Phantom Ranger who can run around spotting pods and delivering surprise damage when needed is much better. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 07 2016 11:23 dae wrote: Also, before you get Tier 2 weapon, swords do much more damage, especially speccing for it. It is way better than the base shotgun if you go down that path. And the later weapons have a 25% chance to stun or light enemies on fire. And the upgrades are pretty cheap. | ||
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Coppermantis
United States845 Posts
On February 07 2016 11:23 dae wrote: Also, before you get Tier 2 weapon, swords do much more damage, especially speccing for it. Also, killing things with a sword is badass. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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Plansix
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Deleted User 137586
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On a similar point, anyone else feel like snipers miss way too many shots? I have all the upgrades for them, but I'd rather have three or four grenadiers bomb everything to bits than risk another turn when my sharpshooters do nothing. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
For the geoscape, I find the proving grounds to be a newb trap. I did the advanced training center and guerilla center for the first row and a workshop and proving grounds for the second row with 1 power planet each. I should've done radar instead of proving grounds since it's taking forever to clear the third row. Stupid RNG gave me both power coils in the fourth row. So far, I've been completely underwhelmed by the stuff coming out of the proving grounds. The advantages are minor enough so far that I could wait for the third row. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
Unsurprisingly, the mimic beacon was the most fired upon member of my squad for that mission, haha. | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
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