Total War: Warhammer - Page 99

On January 25 2018 04:48 xDaunt wrote:
I'm about 65 turns into a new Empire campaign.Biggest thing that I've noticed is that none of the usual suspect factions have become runaway factions. Greenskins are keeping the Dwarves in check nicely and actually seem to be stronger. Lothern hasn't been able to unite Ulthuan yet, and Morathi holds a few of the Western settlements there. Naggarond is doing fuckall. Jabba seems to be developing nicely in the jungle, but Kroq-gar is a bum. Settra seems to be doing the best of the TK factions, but I don't have a particularly good idea of what's going on in the Southlands due to my scout being assassinated prematurely. Best of all, Norsca are doing virtually nothing. I actually vaulted into being the number one power far faster than usual due to Middenland being willing to confederate with me before turn 40.

On January 25 2018 07:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Part of me reaaaaally wants to play ME with the Empire but I think I will wait for the Norsca uodate. Dealing with countless stacks of chariots / marauders horsemen is just not my thing.

They are still the best faction by far.

Happy that the elves don’t roll over everything. If DE/HE can be a stalemate, that’s really good news for the game.

On January 25 2018 08:13 Plansix wrote:
Nothing beats the ME Teclis start for raw bullshit. I gave it two tries and said "Maybe when I hate myself I'll do this."

On January 25 2018 21:52 Nezgar wrote:
Started with the Court of Lybaras and it's probably the worst start of any faction that I have played thus far. Tier 1 TK units seem to be the worst all around. The first big fight against the Vampires had me face an army of 16 crypt ghouls and some bats. Turns out that regular skeletons start to waver and fall apart against Crypt Ghouls in less than 10 seconds. Khalida's starting units aren't great either and chariots against Crypt Ghouls turned out to be absolutely useless. Even the monstrous infantry lost their 1v1 against the Crypt Ghouls, not even managing to kill 10 of them before falling apart. Barely won that battle thanks for the 4 Archer units. But by the time I managed to rebuild my army, so did the Vampires and they were sitting pretty behind their walled city. I had to wait for the 2nd army (15 turns of research) to arrive before being able to secure the first province.

After getting rid of the Vamps I was stuck fighting against Lizardmen and Dwarves, both fielding massive armies of fairly heavily armored infantry... and TK absolutely suck against heavy armor until you get to tier 3/4. It took 3 entire armies to beat a single Lizardmen army.

Autoresolve seems to have some problems with TK as well. I was laying siege to a city and the bar showed roughly 40% on the autoresolve bar. When I added 2 more armies, it stayed at 40%.

Late game seems to be as bad as the early game. It's really hard to get past 10 armies unless you are rebel farming for jars and you cannot increase your amount of heroes through buildings. So even in situations where you could usually field like 20 stacks, you are locked to around half of those. And half of them don't have spellcasters.

Most of the unit roster is absolute trash. Tomb Guards don't seem to be able to stand up to other heavy infantry, Ushabti lose against other monstrous infantry and there is a severe lack of anti-large AP units. The only units that seem to be able to carry their weight are Great Bow Ushabti, regular ass archers and the Warsphinx. With the exception of Archers, almost everything worthwhile is locked to 1 unit per province.

Overall I am super underwhelmed with TK thus far.

Also some aspects seem to have been poorly thought-out. For the Court of Lybaras, one of the Books of Nagash is in Ulthuan. That book offers 10 jars per turn and 10% research. But by the time you can reasonable get there and fight through the entire High Elves faction(s), you are already done with all the research and certainly don't need another 10 jars per turn.
Some of the TK specific events give buffs like -15% recruitment cost for whatever reason. Not sure how that one slipped through their QA...

On January 25 2018 04:22 Archeon wrote:
Started a dwarven campaign and can tell you all about it. Staring out at war with 5 factions and having no valuable allies to speak of (or trade with) is quite the task, especially because t2 doesn't do a lot and I can't lean back on wizardry or cav. To boot three of the orc factions have no problem fielding multiple tier 2 armies around turn 10.

And despite having amazing stats Dwarven warriors don't trade that well with orc boys actually.

On January 25 2018 21:52 Nezgar wrote:
Started with the Court of Lybaras and it's probably the worst start of any faction that I have played thus far. Tier 1 TK units seem to be the worst all around. The first big fight against the Vampires had me face an army of 16 crypt ghouls and some bats. Turns out that regular skeletons start to waver and fall apart against Crypt Ghouls in less than 10 seconds. Khalida's starting units aren't great either and chariots against Crypt Ghouls turned out to be absolutely useless. Even the monstrous infantry lost their 1v1 against the Crypt Ghouls, not even managing to kill 10 of them before falling apart. Barely won that battle thanks for the 4 Archer units. But by the time I managed to rebuild my army, so did the Vampires and they were sitting pretty behind their walled city. I had to wait for the 2nd army (15 turns of research) to arrive before being able to secure the first province.

After getting rid of the Vamps I was stuck fighting against Lizardmen and Dwarves, both fielding massive armies of fairly heavily armored infantry... and TK absolutely suck against heavy armor until you get to tier 3/4. It took 3 entire armies to beat a single Lizardmen army.

Autoresolve seems to have some problems with TK as well. I was laying siege to a city and the bar showed roughly 40% on the autoresolve bar. When I added 2 more armies, it stayed at 40%.

Late game seems to be as bad as the early game. It's really hard to get past 10 armies unless you are rebel farming for jars and you cannot increase your amount of heroes through buildings. So even in situations where you could usually field like 20 stacks, you are locked to around half of those. And half of them don't have spellcasters.

Most of the unit roster is absolute trash. Tomb Guards don't seem to be able to stand up to other heavy infantry, Ushabti lose against other monstrous infantry and there is a severe lack of anti-large AP units. The only units that seem to be able to carry their weight are Great Bow Ushabti, regular ass archers and the Warsphinx. With the exception of Archers, almost everything worthwhile is locked to 1 unit per province.

Overall I am super underwhelmed with TK thus far.

Also some aspects seem to have been poorly thought-out. For the Court of Lybaras, one of the Books of Nagash is in Ulthuan. That book offers 10 jars per turn and 10% research. But by the time you can reasonable get there and fight through the entire High Elves faction(s), you are already done with all the research and certainly don't need another 10 jars per turn.
Some of the TK specific events give buffs like -15% recruitment cost for whatever reason. Not sure how that one slipped through their QA...

On January 26 2018 01:08 Manit0u wrote:


Books are random you know (with each playthrough different books will give different bonuses).

As to the units, I think they're trash until you invest into your lord's red line and other research to boost them. Nehekharan Warriors and Tomb Guard actually have pretty beastly stats then (Warriors have much better stats than Storm Vermin for example and they're a T2 unit). It's like having Norscan zerkers but with close to 100 armor. They're legit early-mid game.