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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14023 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-18 05:30:32
August 18 2017 05:26 GMT
#1001
Isn't Game one Germany scandinavia england and the balkans and game two is greater Western Europe as the elves the Skaven as the moors and CK2 style sunset invasion aztecs?

I'm really happy for skaven fun times but I was hopeing that they'd save Skaven for game three and the Egyptian super necros.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
August 18 2017 06:07 GMT
#1002
Campaigns will be as followed: the old world campaign we started with, and the vortex campaign as its new world equal. "Below" that you will have the small story campaigns as with the beastmen. Overlapping all you will have the big campaign with the whole world included. Rules will be adjusted for each campaign (for example no chaos invasion probably for the big campain).

Source: www.pcgamesn.com
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7914 Posts
August 18 2017 06:33 GMT
#1003
On August 18 2017 14:26 Sermokala wrote:
Isn't Game one Germany scandinavia england and the balkans and game two is greater Western Europe as the elves the Skaven as the moors and CK2 style sunset invasion aztecs?

I'm really happy for skaven fun times but I was hopeing that they'd save Skaven for game three and the Egyptian super necros.

Bretonnia is some weird fucked up medieval France mashed up with arthurian legends, Estalia and Tilea are Italy and Spain, Sylvannia is Romania and Kislev is kievan russia.

So it covers more or less our own old World.

England would be high elves even if their real equivalent would in fact be Atlantis.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21904 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-18 09:23:27
August 18 2017 09:22 GMT
#1004
On August 18 2017 11:50 B.I.G. wrote:
So in part 2 they will just add warhammer north and south america or also include warhammer Asia and north Africa? I thought part 3 will be about chaos so Chaos wastes made more sense?

Part 2 is North America (Dark Elves), South America (Lizardman), Africa (Khemri and assorted other minor nations) and Atlantis (High Elves)

Asia isn't really fleshed out in Warhammer lore, There is Chaos Dwarfs and Ogres in central Asia but thats about it, we know Cathey is to the east but there is no real background on them.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
August 18 2017 11:27 GMT
#1005
Hmm, part 2 adds Khemri ?

I thought it was dark elves, skaven, lizardmen and high elves.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21904 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-18 11:41:24
August 18 2017 11:35 GMT
#1006
On release your right.

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That is the campaign map for TW:W 2.

Note the Land of the dead, great desert and shifting sands in the south-east continent (africa)
Those are Khemri lands, so I would say it is highly likely they will be added as DLC.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 18 2017 11:36 GMT
#1007
Tilea are the Italians and Estalia are the Spanish respectively. Britain is Albion.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-18 11:40:51
August 18 2017 11:39 GMT
#1008
Yeah it seems likely. It's sorta weird because we already have 8 factions, 4 more added, 12. If they add tomb kings, they will only have 3 factions for the part 3 (ogres, chaos dwarves, chaos daemons). I guess then part 3 will be more about fleshing out the game rather than expanding the world, which i guess will be fine by me.

Oh well, they can also milk with DLCs for the unplayable factions anyways, like Estalia with the huge pikes :D
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7914 Posts
August 18 2017 12:12 GMT
#1009
On August 18 2017 20:36 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Tilea are the Italians and Estalia are the Spanish respectively. Britain is Albion.

Wasn't there a Tilean general Curious Gaesar who tried to invade Albion?

When GW goes camp and goofy, it's usually spectacular.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
August 18 2017 15:28 GMT
#1010
I wonder if turn wait times are going to become a problem again in the big campaign. And especially with the third game and the uber campaign.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11588 Posts
August 18 2017 21:53 GMT
#1011
On August 18 2017 21:12 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 20:36 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Tilea are the Italians and Estalia are the Spanish respectively. Britain is Albion.

Wasn't there a Tilean general Curious Gaesar who tried to invade Albion?

When GW goes camp and goofy, it's usually spectacular.


A lot of the Empire stuff is really funny if you speak German.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 18 2017 22:32 GMT
#1012
On August 13 2017 06:29 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 05:31 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Before RTW, the AI were programmed to try to make preset armies. In the first STW, armies were even made in preference to the Daimyo's personality. For some reason this was scrapped during RTW and thereafter, cities just made whatever was the most expensive resulting in crapsack stacks. Also the AI never had any ability to actually fight as an army. it's always all too easy to pick apart the AI in battles.

Weird, the game would be much better without those retarded ass stacks. I've ran into composition so stupid they were uber underdogs against 3 times cheaper armies.

I've noticed that the ai also loves to sepukku its whole cavalry on heavily defended flanks before the main engagement starts. Stuff like 3 boar boys charging two demigryphs and a halleberd and other kamikaze attacks like that.

I guess it's still really bloody difficult to make a strategy game ai that doesn't play like an absolute retard.


Are you telling me 8 Grudgethrowers isn't a viable army?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 18 2017 22:54 GMT
#1013
I have low demands. I just want the magic to function better and cannons to be useful again large creatures.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
August 19 2017 05:02 GMT
#1014
So I kinda want to de-noobify myself a bit in this game because although I've played a few campaigns I'm a lazy casual who just wanted to roflstomp the entire map on very easy so I still suck. As such questions:

-whats the difficulty setting difference? I heard that on very hard mode AI's units will generally be stronger than yours. Not a big fan of handicaps like that.
-Am I right in assuming the right approach to a campaign is first confederate and conquer until you have like 4 provinces while focusing on growth and income buildings, all on one army, and save teching up until your region is stable?
-When do you start adding armies and how many should you have?
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7914 Posts
August 19 2017 08:33 GMT
#1015
On August 19 2017 14:02 B.I.G. wrote:
So I kinda want to de-noobify myself a bit in this game because although I've played a few campaigns I'm a lazy casual who just wanted to roflstomp the entire map on very easy so I still suck. As such questions:

-whats the difficulty setting difference? I heard that on very hard mode AI's units will generally be stronger than yours. Not a big fan of handicaps like that.
-Am I right in assuming the right approach to a campaign is first confederate and conquer until you have like 4 provinces while focusing on growth and income buildings, all on one army, and save teching up until your region is stable?
-When do you start adding armies and how many should you have?

That really depends what race you play.

Also, in harder difficulty, you won't be able to confederate easily early on.

If you play, say, the Empire, you need very technologically advanced armies very quickly (because their base units suck really badly) and I recommend turtling a bit early on with 1-2 provinces.

If you play greenskins, you can make obscenely cheap stacks that can actually pillage every round nearly what their cost, and that won't actually really cost you anything. As long as you have a place to ravage, you can essentially have free stacks relatively early.

That being said, the fun of the game comes from the immense flexibility it offers. Read a thread somewhere by a guy playing the crooked moon who resettled immediately to the karaks bordering the chaos wastes. So really, everything is possible.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 19 2017 16:20 GMT
#1016
Yeah, optimal strategy depends upon whom you are playing. However, and as a general rule, I think that the game favors smaller numbers of elite armies than large numbers of shit armies due to how maintenance works. This places a lot of pressure on teching and going hard vertical. But if you are playing someone like the Greenskins that needs to stay aggressive, then you will have to tailor your strategy a bit.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
August 19 2017 16:35 GMT
#1017
does TW WH 2 include all of the races/campaigns from the first one?? like if i buy TW2, can i play as/against empire and dwarves? what about the dlc from the firsst one?
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 19 2017 16:44 GMT
#1018
On August 20 2017 01:35 Endymion wrote:
does TW WH 2 include all of the races/campaigns from the first one?? like if i buy TW2, can i play as/against empire and dwarves? what about the dlc from the firsst one?

No, you need to own the first game and the DLC from the first game to use those factions on the grand campaign map.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21904 Posts
August 19 2017 17:28 GMT
#1019
TW:WH 2 is a completely stand alone game containing Dark Elves, High Elves, Skaven and Lizardmen (and future dlc factions).
Its only if you also own TW:WH 1 that you can combine everything into a joined grand campaign.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
August 19 2017 18:10 GMT
#1020
On August 20 2017 01:44 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2017 01:35 Endymion wrote:
does TW WH 2 include all of the races/campaigns from the first one?? like if i buy TW2, can i play as/against empire and dwarves? what about the dlc from the firsst one?

No, you need to own the first game and the DLC from the first game to use those factions on the grand campaign map.

jesus really??? so i have to drop like ~$120 to play the fully experience legally?
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
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