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On April 01 2017 00:44 TMG26 wrote:Show nested quote +Shortly after launch, owners of both the original game and Total War™ WARHAMMER II will gain access to the colossal new combined campaign. Merging the landmasses of The Old World plus Naggaroth, Lustria, Ulthuan and the Southlands into a single epic map, players may embark on monumental campaigns as any owned Race from both titles. This is the smartest thing they could do. Release a new stand alone game that updates the first one with new content.
Hopefully they tweek the magic to make it a little more interesting. There are some cool spells, but most feel like a some lack luster buffs or healing spam.
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On April 01 2017 01:40 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2017 00:44 TMG26 wrote:Shortly after launch, owners of both the original game and Total War™ WARHAMMER II will gain access to the colossal new combined campaign. Merging the landmasses of The Old World plus Naggaroth, Lustria, Ulthuan and the Southlands into a single epic map, players may embark on monumental campaigns as any owned Race from both titles. This is the smartest thing they could do. Release a new stand alone game that updates the first one with new content. Hopefully they tweek the magic to make it a little more interesting. There are some cool spells, but most feel like a some lack luster buffs or healing spam.
So its like a new game and an expansion pack at the same time?
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On April 01 2017 02:55 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2017 01:40 Plansix wrote:On April 01 2017 00:44 TMG26 wrote:Shortly after launch, owners of both the original game and Total War™ WARHAMMER II will gain access to the colossal new combined campaign. Merging the landmasses of The Old World plus Naggaroth, Lustria, Ulthuan and the Southlands into a single epic map, players may embark on monumental campaigns as any owned Race from both titles. This is the smartest thing they could do. Release a new stand alone game that updates the first one with new content. Hopefully they tweek the magic to make it a little more interesting. There are some cool spells, but most feel like a some lack luster buffs or healing spam. So its like a new game and an expansion pack at the same time? Stand-alone expansion that can combine with the previous game if you own both.
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Northern Ireland22206 Posts
ok im ok with this being more of an expansion than a game thats independent of the first one
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Yeah its basically the SC2 model of expansions, but also with random DLCs thrown in.
Original schedule (ignoring minor DLC) was:
1. Old World: Empire, VC, Orcs, Dwarfs dlc: Beastmen, WE 2. New World: HE, DE, Lizardmen dlc: Skaven, Tomb Kings 3. Chaos: the four demon gods dlc: Chaos Dwarfs, Ogre Kingdoms
Skaven appears to have been moved to the main set of races for TWW2 (they say 4 are now in, and they are teased at end of the trailer) despite not being in the original plan. Their absence from the body of the trailer and the 3-way look/feel of the trailer is probably due to this change.
The Tomb Kings map area is supposed to be in the combined campaign, and therefore will appear a few weeks after launch. The faction themself will probably be unplayable (and perhaps not interactable too) at first, and will be unlocked by DLC.
Araby, Tilea, Estalia, and/or Kislev might get a proper setup in this iteration too, who knows.
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This is pretty much what I would want about the game. A new, large main map that allows us to play with all the races, but only if you have both games. It sounds like it might not launch with that feature, but that might be due to caution more than anything else. I bet they don’t want everyone downloading their brand new game, a huge patch for the old game and having the new “Super map” across both games all at the same time.
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Looks cool, but I don't think I'll bother with it until I upgrade my computer and get an SSD. I played through 2 campaigns of the current TW:W, and I'm pretty sure half my time was spent on a loading screen.
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this game will be really cool for me, the first one had some meh races for me personally as i just hate dwarfs and find orcs also very meh.
but the new 4 races are all super cool, cant wait. Dont even know who i would play first.
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On April 01 2017 07:24 Sbrubbles wrote: Looks cool, but I don't think I'll bother with it until I upgrade my computer and get an SSD. I played through 2 campaigns of the current TW:W, and I'm pretty sure half my time was spent on a loading screen. I upgraded to an SDD specifically because of this game. I wanted one for while, but this game pushed me over the edge.
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Maybe they'll sell the Total War: Warhammer trilogy bundle together as an SSD that you just plug into your PC.
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Australia4514 Posts
TotalWar Warhammer II?
April fools?
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Seems legit. I'm pretty hyped.
Skaven <3
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Lol, they said fourth race to be confirmed. C'mon it's Lustria's isthmus + Ulthuan probably, it's obvious it's going to be skaven. Excited about a combined campaign.
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I just got this game and I'm floored by the strategic depth and tactical complexity. I started a game on normal as Empire and ramped up the difficulty to hard later on. I took out almost all of Sylvania, couldn't breach the capitals, then the chaos warriors came and started wrecking my shit. My one province that can produce Demigryph Knights got destroyed and I'm playing on the back foot with 3 full armies barely holding them back from Altdorf. I'm at about turn 150 and the looting penalties make it so that I can't reliably predict how much money I'll have on any given turn.
Still I'm having a blast and I hope to defeat Archaon if he'll take a fight with my triple-stack of armies so that I can reclaim the provinces that I lost and hopefully tech up to Demigryphs again (thinking about just re-making the buildings in a safer province).
I can't believe I've only played as one of the races and I have like 40 hours of solid play time and the long campaign objectives are still so far off. What a game.
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Yeah, it's a great game. I have sunk 270 hours into it since I got the game at release last year. And the majority of those hours have been spent playing as Empire, whom I think are the most fun to play given their challenging strategic situation and the diversity of their units. My only gripe with the game is that artillery units seem to be badly undertuned. Mortars and Steam Tanks do work, but everything else is just lack luster. Hellblaster volley guns are auto-resolve heroes, but they can't do shit on the actual tactical map. So frustrating.
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The replay value of this game is insane. I've played for 200+ hours and completed the grand campaign something like 12 times with various factions, and probably will do at least one or two more before the sequel hits.
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On May 27 2017 02:29 xDaunt wrote: Yeah, it's a great game. I have sunk 270 hours into it since I got the game at release last year. And the majority of those hours have been spent playing as Empire, whom I think are the most fun to play given their challenging strategic situation and the diversity of their units. My only gripe with the game is that artillery units seem to be badly undertuned. Mortars and Steam Tanks do work, but everything else is just lack luster. Hellblaster volley guns are auto-resolve heroes, but they can't do shit on the actual tactical map. So frustrating.
Multiplayer is pretty good too in this one.
Definitely the best TW game (WH was exactly what TW needed and vice versa).
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On May 27 2017 02:29 xDaunt wrote: Yeah, it's a great game. I have sunk 270 hours into it since I got the game at release last year. And the majority of those hours have been spent playing as Empire, whom I think are the most fun to play given their challenging strategic situation and the diversity of their units. My only gripe with the game is that artillery units seem to be badly undertuned. Mortars and Steam Tanks do work, but everything else is just lack luster. Hellblaster volley guns are auto-resolve heroes, but they can't do shit on the actual tactical map. So frustrating.
Very much agree on Empire being the most fun in campaign (though I actually prefer WE on unit roster) due to how many enemies they have and how many different strats you can try. Fortress Riekland or blitz and try to hold, losing stuff all the time? Ally Bretonnia or plow through them? When to take on the Vampires? Sally forth and kill Chaos, or wait until they clear the map between you and them? It's all possible and all fun.
Played an awesome WE Durthu campaign on VH the other day where I basically completely ignored my start zone and just blitzed the North, took out the Norscans, and was waiting across the Chaos wastes with three full stacks when Archaeon came knocking.
Won the game without ever occupying human, dwarf, greenskin or vampire lands that one random Dwarf hold up there.
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So at what date can i realistically expect to play the Tomb Kings. Any sophisticated guesses? Game looks tempting indeed but without Settra the Imperishable I dont see the point.
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