EPTGrey Goo - new RTS from original C&C devs - Page 5
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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algue
France1436 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17942 Posts
On December 29 2014 00:07 SKC wrote: Focusing on multiplayer and focusing on ESPORTS is not the same thing though. Hearthstone was obviously a game focused on multiplayer but it didn't even have a spectator mode. From all multiplayer games, and there is a lot of them, very few are developed with competition in mind. listening carefully to the entire grey goo section in the youtube video you'll see they aer specifically referring to competitive multiplayer aka hard core very competitive 1v1 and 2v2 matches... which is what incontrol likes. he is not talking about 4 player versus AI on a money map.... or anything else.. he is discussing the aspect of RTS he is most passionate about which is competitive multiplayer. replays have been an essential part of RTS games' competitive multiplayer aspect since 2000. which is why Grey Box is falling all over themselves to explain that they'll support 3RD PARTY recording methods. because they know having no replays is bad. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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TigerKarl
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Too bad, because Blizzard always needed competitors to make great games. No single competitor results in shitty games like Heart of the Swarm. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
On December 31 2014 02:03 TigerKarl wrote: From hearing these guy talk in their promo videos they seem to have no clue. Too bad, because Blizzard always needed competitors to make great games. No single competitor results in shitty games like Heart of the Swarm. A competitive game with no micro but rewarding "tactics" instead..... Yeh not gonna work. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17942 Posts
the limited edition "steel box" version is 40 Euros ![[image loading]](http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/post-11-1419945995.jpg) | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17942 Posts
On December 31 2014 02:03 TigerKarl wrote: From hearing these guy talk in their promo videos they seem to have no clue. Too bad, because Blizzard always needed competitors to make great games. No single competitor results in shitty games XXXXXXXXXXX. the "X"s are my edit. great point man. Greg Black , Dustin Browder, Tim Morten, and i could keep going. it seems like half the C&C team is on SC2 David Kim is from Relic and CoH. i hope this game turns out great and introduces some new ideas into the RTS genre. but, i doubt it'll happen. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On December 31 2014 03:17 Hider wrote: A competitive game with no micro but rewarding "tactics" instead..... Yeh not gonna work. It worked in C&C Generals. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17942 Posts
this is what happens when your release date is precipitated by the project running out of cash. grey box/petroglyph looks like a fly-by-the-seat-of-their-pants chicken outfit. | ||
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KrOmander
United Kingdom78 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Generals had no micro??? The game where army sizes were pretty small, meaning losing one or two units to sloppy control could spell defeat??? | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On January 04 2015 00:49 ahswtini wrote: Yeah, you're right. There was very little macro so micro was all there was to do. Generals had no micro??? The game where army sizes were pretty small, meaning losing one or two units to sloppy control could spell defeat??? I think this game looks interesting but I know the feeling of expecting something cool and being disappointed by things being unfinished, low quality, glitchy, etc which is what it looks like will happen here for me. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On January 04 2015 00:49 ahswtini wrote: Generals had no micro??? The game where army sizes were pretty small, meaning losing one or two units to sloppy control could spell defeat??? It had as much as this game has from what I seen. In Both games units move slow and kill each other fast so no real micro like in SC2 is possible. Some faster units let you micro but there were only a few of those. You would micro air and commando units and multitasks. Macro just like in this game was pretty simple. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10167 Posts
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TaShadan
Germany1982 Posts
On January 04 2015 20:57 Godwrath wrote: Being super fast or not, it was micro nonetheless, and you could be very cost efficient with it, atleast in my experience (i had a 90% winrate, doesn't mean much, no matchmaking, but i was fairly above average nonetheless), while playing USA on vanilla. I stopped playing the game because people would just disconnect against me after seeing the stats =/ I agree. Slower speed does not mean there is less micro. BW for example is slower than SC2, still it has more micro involved in most situations. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
On January 04 2015 21:04 TaShadan wrote: I agree. Slower speed does not mean there is less micro. BW for example is slower than SC2, still it has more micro involved in most situations. No it's not. BW units have pretty fast movement speed. | ||
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