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Plansix
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The_Red_Viper
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On November 25 2015 05:50 Plansix wrote: The writer Patrick Rothfuss said the most important thing a creator can do is learn to filter our non constructive criticism, because they are going to receive a lot of it. Blizzard is the same. The volume and frequency of your complains/criticism is not a metric for if it is valid or constructive. In short: Bitching about the same shit over and over doesn’t mean people are going to give a shit. I made a post about ranked mode not being in the game at launch because it was communicated like that in their forums. Apparently nobody gives a damn. It's all fine again! I mean who cares? Only the guy who bitches all the time anyway right? Pretty much what was going on here... It simply baffles my mind how you can care so little about needed features. I only reiterated my other complains because the last news from blizzard showed me that you guys don't care about anything anyway. If the majority is like that we will get the most casual and basic fps experience you can imagine. But i guess that would be totally cool with you guys too... I am out though, even reddit understands that negative feedback is needed. "Even 4 weeks in" (again what a stupid pov, exactly right now is the time blizzard actually is still able to change fundamental things, not 1 week before release..) | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 25 2015 06:01 The_Red_Viper wrote: I made a post about ranked mode not being in the game at launch because it was communicated like that in their forums. Apparently nobody gives a damn. It's all fine again! I mean who cares? Only the guy who bitches all the time anyway right? Pretty much what was going on here... It simply baffles my mind how you can care so little about needed features. I only reiterated my other complains because the last news from blizzard showed me that you guys don't care about anything anyway. If the majority is like that we will get the most casual and basic fps experience you can imagine. But i guess that would be totally cool with you guys too... I am out though, even reddit understands that negative feedback is needed. "Even 4 weeks in" (again what a stupid pov, exactly right now is the time blizzard actually is still able to change fundamental things, not 1 week before release..) Its because I am a different person that you, with different life experiences and interests. I know it hard to understand, but people don't see the world exactly like you do. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 25 2015 05:57 Uranium wrote: Every single time that I've seen a game missing CORE gameplay elements during a beta, the game shipped without those elements. So if you are happy with the state of the game right now, then you'll enjoy it at launch. If you aren't, then don't waste your time. Also, the game is played on 20 tickrate, has no scoreboard, and is made by the same company whose latest offerings are Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm. While there may be a competitive scene, it will be designed from the ground up to be a casual game, so don't expect a lot of support from Blizzard in that regard. Your post contradicts itself. Saying "betas without core elements don't ship with them" and then "this is the company that made Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm" makes you sound like you didn't pay attention to those betas at all. Both of those games started very sparse and went through major changes and additions before release and shortly afterwards. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 25 2015 06:02 Requizen wrote: Your post contradicts itself. Saying "betas without core elements don't ship with them" and then "this is the company that made Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm" makes you sound like you didn't pay attention to those betas at all. Both of those games started very sparse and went through major changes and additions before release and shortly afterwards. Heroes of the Storm continues to get new features well after release. Same with Diablo 3, which is a boxed release with no competitive multiplayer beyond its ladder. Blizzard supports its games well after launch, free to play or otherwise. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On November 25 2015 06:02 Plansix wrote: Its because I am a different person that you, with different life experiences and interests. I know it hard to understand, but people don't see the world exactly like you do. Yeah because that is exactly the problem here, all my problems with the game are totally out there and not pretty basic! Only entitled people could ever have these views! It's even more baffling considering you apparently are into dota2, i would have guessed you had a certain standard now for games. Or maybe you simply attack people with strong opinions because that's the thing you enjoy, yep i think that's the case. | ||
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RagequitBM
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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Expecting some game modes which are common in fps games is extreme too! Srsly how can you even write this nonsense? My beef with the SC2 match making is that it confuses my victories with me getting better at the game.  | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Complaining about not enough game modes 4 weeks into a closed beta.. now that's nonsense. | ||
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Plansix
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Alaric
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Which could be seen as "worrying" (wording too strong) in that, with over 6 months until planned release, they're already anticipating not having the time to implement what has now become a staple (and thus expected by the player population, which is important) game mode for the genre. He's bitching and acting entitled and attacking people left and right, but you're all repeating "it's only 4 weeks in the closed beta" when it's not related to what he's saying at all. There's no need to attack that hard if everyone is missing the other's point. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On November 25 2015 06:32 Reaps wrote: Highly ironic you accuse someone else writing nonsense. Complaining about not enough game modes 4 weeks into a closed beta.. now that's nonsense. It's almost like people don't even read what i wrote. I am not only complaining about gamemodes not being there NOW (even though i actually think they should have more variety even now), they also made it very clear what they think about certain fps modes for overwatch. very underwhelming to read to say the least. But who cares? It's only me bitching again! | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
I don't see the problem with what blizzard said about ranking mode taking so long, maybe they have other priority's first? | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On November 25 2015 06:38 The_Red_Viper wrote: It's almost like people don't even read what i wrote. I am not only complaining about gamemodes not being there NOW (even though i actually think they should have more variety even now), they also made it very clear what they think about certain fps modes for overwatch. very underwhelming to read to say the least. But who cares? It's only me bitching again! Yea pretty much. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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It's pretty easy to play that card whenever you have no real (informed) opinion about the whole thing though, i can see why you go there. | ||
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Uranium
United States1077 Posts
On November 25 2015 06:34 Plansix wrote: What if I told you that Blizzard is marketing to the players who don't give a shit about ranked mode, aka, the vast majority of people who play games? So ranked isn't their #1 concern. Which is exactly what I said. The game is for casuals. So the_red_viper is barking up the wrong tree because the game isn't designed for him, and any attempt to corner the competitive market will be pure lip service. On November 25 2015 06:02 Requizen wrote: Your post contradicts itself. Saying "betas without core elements don't ship with them" and then "this is the company that made Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm" makes you sound like you didn't pay attention to those betas at all. Both of those games started very sparse and went through major changes and additions before release and shortly afterwards. As far as I'm concerned those games are both still incredibly sparse. They literally took successful existing game genres, then REMOVED elements from them, simplified the remaining elements, and then spiced the remaining incredibly bland experience with nostalgic characters that they can sell. As a long-time DotA and Magic: the Gathering player, Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm are fucking disgraceful. Blizzard is dead. Long live Activision. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On November 25 2015 06:44 The_Red_Viper wrote: Yeah another sheep detected Not only you struggle to make constructive criticism but you struggle to make coherent arguments also so you resort to insults and as for me not being able to read i will quote what you said one page ago, i will even put the part in bold just for you! On November 25 2015 05:31 The_Red_Viper wrote: Perfect example why we can't have nice things. Hey one game mode is totally enough! Ranked mode? Who needs that crap? A real scoreboard after the game? That would only increase toxicity! 5 minute games are totally fine!! People who are content no matter what are the worst thing ever. Call it bitching if you want, i am sorry for having an actual opinion on things instead of being a sheep. And this is still wrong. Elo is the best statistic we have about improvement, even if you don't like it | ||
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Plansix
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It just amusing to watch people freak out when they realize their needs are not being pandered to. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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It has to be accessible for casuals, just like lol was accessible for casual players too. That doesn't mean that the game "is for casuals" though. But sure, i worry that only casuals can have fun with it, maybe it really is a big waste of time to hope for something more. | ||
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