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iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
November 24 2015 21:56 GMT
#1961
On November 25 2015 06:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I made a post about ranked mode not being in the game at launch because it was communicated like that in their forums.
)

So is there any source for your statement or is it just "a feeling" that you got from reading a froum post ???
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-24 21:59:09
November 24 2015 21:56 GMT
#1962
On November 25 2015 06:49 Reaps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 06:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Yeah another sheep detected



Not only you struggle to make constructive criticism but you struggle to make coherent arguments also so you resort to insults and as for me not being able to read i will quote what you said one page ago, i will even put the part in bold just for you!

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 05:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Perfect example why we can't have nice things. Hey one game mode is totally enough!
Ranked mode? Who needs that crap?
A real scoreboard after the game? That would only increase toxicity!
5 minute games are totally fine!!

People who are content no matter what are the worst thing ever. Call it bitching if you want, i am sorry for having an actual opinion on things instead of being a sheep.


On November 25 2015 03:04 Plansix wrote:
If there is anything I have learned from competitive games, its that ranked mode is something that provides feedback that people assume is improvement because a number increases. But the two are only tangentially related.

A kill feed would be nice, however.


And this is still wrong. Elo is the best statistic we have about improvement, even if you don't like it


Pretty funny considering the bolded part doesn't say what you criticized me for. Maybe you should read a few more posts where these initial thoughts were discussed? But attacking me right out of the gate is surely easier!


On November 25 2015 06:56 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 06:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I made a post about ranked mode not being in the game at launch because it was communicated like that in their forums.
)

So is there any source for your statement or is it just "a feeling" that you got from reading a froum post ???

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/19972927799

We’re very excited about a ranked play mode. If this feature does not make launch, it will be one that we focus on post-launch.

Considering that we have so much time still and he cannot even confirm a ranked mode at launch... Yeah very worrying for me.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-24 21:57:07
November 24 2015 21:56 GMT
#1963
double sry
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
November 24 2015 21:56 GMT
#1964
On November 25 2015 06:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I made a post about ranked mode not being in the game at launch because it was communicated like that in their forums.

So is there any source for your statement or is it just "a feeling" that you got from reading a froum post ???
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-24 21:59:15
November 24 2015 21:58 GMT
#1965
On November 25 2015 06:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 06:49 Reaps wrote:
On November 25 2015 06:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Yeah another sheep detected



Not only you struggle to make constructive criticism but you struggle to make coherent arguments also so you resort to insults and as for me not being able to read i will quote what you said one page ago, i will even put the part in bold just for you!

On November 25 2015 05:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Perfect example why we can't have nice things. Hey one game mode is totally enough!
Ranked mode? Who needs that crap?
A real scoreboard after the game? That would only increase toxicity!
5 minute games are totally fine!!

People who are content no matter what are the worst thing ever. Call it bitching if you want, i am sorry for having an actual opinion on things instead of being a sheep.


On November 25 2015 03:04 Plansix wrote:
If there is anything I have learned from competitive games, its that ranked mode is something that provides feedback that people assume is improvement because a number increases. But the two are only tangentially related.

A kill feed would be nice, however.


And this is still wrong. Elo is the best statistic we have about improvement, even if you don't like it


Pretty funny considering the bolded part doesn't say what you criticized me for. Maybe you should read a few more posts where these initial thoughts were discussed? But attacking me right out of the gate is surely easier!



You serious :/ I criticized you for complaining about not enough modes while we are 4 weeks in closed beta. I'm starting to think you're just trolling now, I should probably stop taking the bait.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 24 2015 22:00 GMT
#1966
Yeah maybe you should do that if you aren't able to read what i actually said over the span of the last few days.
Only having one game mode now is only part of the overall concern about game modes. Would be helpful if you would get that tbh.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
November 24 2015 22:02 GMT
#1967
"We’re very excited about a ranked play mode. If this feature does not make launch, it will be one that we focus on post-launch." - Jeff Kaplan

Is that what you mean?
2 pages of fighting about a ranking system not being implemented on launch, because of THAT ???
You gotta be kidding, right?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-24 22:06:21
November 24 2015 22:05 GMT
#1968
On November 25 2015 07:02 iXphobos wrote:
"We’re very excited about a ranked play mode. If this feature does not make launch, it will be one that we focus on post-launch." - Jeff Kaplan

Is that what you mean?
2 pages of fighting about a ranking system not being implemented on launch, because of THAT ???
You gotta be kidding, right?

It surely is no bad sign that he cannot confirm a ranked mode 6 months before release.
Sry but blizzard is very bad at adding features for their games, all the sc2 stuff they teasered wasn't ready for lotv release either.
It's all about blizzard's recent history too. If there were no bad examples with other games i probably wouldn't be concerned at all, but that is simply far from the truth.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 24 2015 22:07 GMT
#1969
On November 25 2015 07:02 iXphobos wrote:
"We’re very excited about a ranked play mode. If this feature does not make launch, it will be one that we focus on post-launch." - Jeff Kaplan

Is that what you mean?
2 pages of fighting about a ranking system not being implemented on launch, because of THAT ???
You gotta be kidding, right?

Shocking I know. Blizzard is honest that they are not 100% sure it will make it for launch, but it will happen. Freak out about Blizzard not caring and there not being enough modes yet.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-24 22:09:07
November 24 2015 22:08 GMT
#1970
I wonder how many people its going to take to tell you how much of a whiney child you're being for you to stop clogging up this thread with your nonsense complaints Viper.
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
November 24 2015 22:08 GMT
#1971
On November 25 2015 07:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 07:02 iXphobos wrote:
"We’re very excited about a ranked play mode. If this feature does not make launch, it will be one that we focus on post-launch." - Jeff Kaplan

Is that what you mean?
2 pages of fighting about a ranking system not being implemented on launch, because of THAT ???
You gotta be kidding, right?

It surely is no bad sign that he cannot confirm a ranked mode 6 months before release.
Sry but blizzard is very bad at adding features for their games, all the sc2 stuff they teasered wasn't ready for lotv release either.
It's all about blizzard's recent history too. If there were no bad examples with other games i probably wouldn't be concerned at all, but that is simply far from the truth.

Ok. Just wanted to check you really mean what you mean.
I'm out then.
May the Lord have mercy on your soul.
Peace.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 24 2015 22:09 GMT
#1972
On November 25 2015 07:07 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 07:02 iXphobos wrote:
"We’re very excited about a ranked play mode. If this feature does not make launch, it will be one that we focus on post-launch." - Jeff Kaplan

Is that what you mean?
2 pages of fighting about a ranking system not being implemented on launch, because of THAT ???
You gotta be kidding, right?

Shocking I know. Blizzard is honest that they are not 100% sure it will make it for launch, but it will happen. Freak out about Blizzard not caring and there not being enough modes yet.

Or maybe you simply attack people with strong opinions because that's the thing you enjoy, yep i think that's the case.

I would imagine you simply would stfu sometime considering you always wanna be on the moral highground. I guess i wasn't so wrong before
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-24 22:12:33
November 24 2015 22:12 GMT
#1973
On November 25 2015 07:08 Reaps wrote:
I wonder how many people its going to take to tell you how much of a whiney child you're being for you to stop clogging up this thread with your nonsense complaints Viper.

It would take people i actually respect i guess. You guys are just clowns with no (strong) opinions about anything because "everything will be fine"
Right now we actually are in the phase where it doesn't matter at all if i actually have points, nobody would agree with it regardless.
I attack the game, you attack me, that's how it goes atm.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-24 22:14:15
November 24 2015 22:12 GMT
#1974
On November 25 2015 07:08 Reaps wrote:
I wonder how many people its going to take to tell you how much of a whiney child you're being for you to stop clogging up this thread with your nonsense complaints Viper.

At this point its less about the complaints and more about him calling people names and sheep for not agreeing with him. And saying we have problems with people with "strong opinions". As if all opinions that are strong automatically have merit.

Edit: case and point above. We are clowns because we are not throwing a fit over a video game. And because he posts like an asshole and just calls people names, he says people "are attacking him rather than his points." Classic entitled gamer baby.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 24 2015 22:14 GMT
#1975
Ranked mode makes no sense for solo queueing in a game this team based.

Sure it may turn off the COD kiddies who are obsessed with prestiging over and over and over and over...again, but there's really no reason to have it for OW. Dedicated servers is something that they said (somewhere, I don't remember where) is in the cards, and servers can have their own ranking systems.

What does make sense is a killfeed, because I want to know just when and how my team is always fucking dead every time I get back to the front.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 24 2015 22:18 GMT
#1976
On November 25 2015 07:12 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 07:08 Reaps wrote:
I wonder how many people its going to take to tell you how much of a whiney child you're being for you to stop clogging up this thread with your nonsense complaints Viper.

At this point its less about the complaints and more about him calling people names and sheep for not agreeing with him. And saying we have problems with people with "strong opinions". As if all opinions that are strong automatically have merit.

Edit: case and point above. We are clowns because we are not throwing a fit over a video game. And because he posts like an asshole and just calls people names, he says people "are attacking him rather than his points." Classic entitled gamer baby.

I "call you names" (damn so toxic, pls don't include stats for the game amiright) because you deserve it. All you do is playing the moral high ground, like a true internet clown.
But you know what? I will do the same now, i peace out and won't ever post here again. Waste of time to the extreme.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
November 24 2015 22:18 GMT
#1977
On November 25 2015 07:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 07:08 Reaps wrote:
I wonder how many people its going to take to tell you how much of a whiney child you're being for you to stop clogging up this thread with your nonsense complaints Viper.

It would take people i actually respect i guess. You guys are just clowns with no (strong) opinions about anything because "everything will be fine"
Right now we actually are in the phase where it doesn't matter at all if i actually have points, nobody would agree with it regardless.
I attack the game, you attack me, that's how it goes atm.



Yes we are clowns with no strong points (lol as if any of your points were strong) because we tell you how unreasonable and childish you are being.

What you don't know is that I also have concerns about Overwatch, I also think certain things are missing that NEED to be added, but the difference between me and you I am actually willing to wait until release before I judge as I am sure a hell of a lot of things will be added by then but apparently that makes me a clown, great logic of yours.

How you have got to that amount of posts on TL I will never know.. oh yea probably by spamming useless shit. Genius.

Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 24 2015 22:19 GMT
#1978
Which is what we wanted like 5 pages ago.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
November 24 2015 22:34 GMT
#1979
On November 25 2015 07:14 deth2munkies wrote:
Ranked mode makes no sense for solo queueing in a game this team based.

Sure it may turn off the COD kiddies who are obsessed with prestiging over and over and over and over...again, but there's really no reason to have it for OW. Dedicated servers is something that they said (somewhere, I don't remember where) is in the cards, and servers can have their own ranking systems.

What does make sense is a killfeed, because I want to know just when and how my team is always fucking dead every time I get back to the front.


... how is it anymore team oriented than any Moba...or CS?

People can solo carry in those games just as likely as in this one.

Your argument makes literally no sense to me.

Its a team focused game so you cant have a ranking system for individual players? Its like this in literally every moba and CSGO and noone seems to be under the delusion that solo rankings shouldnt exist because its a team game...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 24 2015 22:37 GMT
#1980
Ranked modes in team games are weird because you get people who are very good at one specific part of the game, but will lose tons of ranking if that is taken away. I don't think its useless, but people tend to overvalue as a "true measurement of skill". Its is a metric of being able to preform in any one part of the game really well. But it isn't holistic.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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