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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 20:43:59
October 31 2015 20:40 GMT
#1161
On November 01 2015 04:41 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2015 07:45 Ingvar wrote:
On October 31 2015 05:55 FeyFey wrote:
was linked already , for shame that you don't read everything !


Not enough PASSION. The girl is a Random bonjwa and people are discussing whether Sc2 is fast paced.


haha one of the comments was like, why is her race a 4 on a dice xD. But I guess she will have psy blades, stim packs and creep for vision speed boost !
And shoots bunny scarabs that only go off 70% of the time.

Bahahaha

The general consensus right now is that she's probably a mech pilot. Her suit looks like a plug suit from Evangelion, this in-game poster makes it look like she's in some kind of mech, she's in a group called "meka" (mecha), and she's a professional RTS player so it makes thematic sense that she's piloting/commanding something.

I just freaking love the "100% dokidoki" on her poster.

Edit: Also some golden posts:

"I'm going to guess this character is going to have a lot more Twitch based mechanics."

"Should require average of 300 APM to be played properly."

"If they ever add D.Va to heroes of the storm, she is going to be so confused..."
> "Imagine her face when they add a new hero to Overwatch, whose back story is they're a Heroes of the Storm player who mains D.Va."
TL+ Member
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 21:37:34
October 31 2015 21:17 GMT
#1162
Aslong as blizzard doesn't make a TF2 style pyro class i'll be happy with any class they choose to do.

crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
October 31 2015 21:31 GMT
#1163
Are they still inviting people to the Beta?
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
October 31 2015 21:32 GMT
#1164
They've had a few more waves of invites, but there hasn't been one today. I'm pretty sure we don't know how many more waves there will be.
TL+ Member
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 21:44:53
October 31 2015 21:44 GMT
#1165
I would guess they don't invite during the weekend because of limited staff if something go's wrong.

There will be more invites at a later date for sure.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
October 31 2015 21:46 GMT
#1166
On October 31 2015 09:36 Excalibur_Z wrote:
I don't see any screen clutter honestly. The UI is pretty minimalist and you only see a gold glow when you're being healed (plus the name and health of your healer which may or may not be considered clutter), small blue arrows when you're being boosted, and the large words STUNNED or PINNED when you're unable to perform an action (so it's moot). Of course, you also get kill confirmation messages (maybe you'd prefer HLDM-style corner icons?) and most importantly, buff notifications, such as when Widowmaker uses ult to grant wall vision.


Add all that together with reload and muzzle flashes that can take up more than half the screen and it gets very cluttered very quickly.

Most of it has no purpose besides blinding you... Which in an FPS game is absolutely detrimental to game play. I don't need to see a huge eliminated flash on the screen to see that I've killed someone and stunned/pinned could be taken care of with much more sutble queues than big words that take up the screen.

FPS is just one of those games where screen real estate is at a premium. You want to see everything all the time and you don't want anything blocking that view un less it's vitally important
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
November 01 2015 07:09 GMT
#1167
Does anybody know if the beta has a mmr system? The past 50 games seem to be people who just got the beta and were walkovers. Also, I have an extra beta key, is there a way to let someone use it without them having access to the email?
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
November 01 2015 10:22 GMT
#1168
On November 01 2015 16:09 duckk wrote:
Does anybody know if the beta has a mmr system? The past 50 games seem to be people who just got the beta and were walkovers. Also, I have an extra beta key, is there a way to let someone use it without them having access to the email?

There are no beta keys.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-01 10:48:00
November 01 2015 10:46 GMT
#1169
On November 01 2015 06:31 crbox wrote:
Are they still inviting people to the Beta?

They've been sending out waves everyday since Beta began.

Anyway, I highly recommend watching A_seagull to us serfs who haven't been invited to beta. Very skilled player and he's shown a lot of the depth of the game even though beta just came out.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
November 01 2015 11:49 GMT
#1170
Yea watching seagull scrim and get destroyed by the devs is awesome. Devs that are good at their own game, who would of thought it?
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
November 01 2015 12:35 GMT
#1171
Of course they are better than someone who has only played the game for a few hours. Pure aiming skills only take you so far. They have much more experience, know the characters and the maps, the current imbalances, which team composition counters which...
David Kim used to be the best SC2 player in the world in the beginning.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12006 Posts
November 01 2015 12:48 GMT
#1172
On November 01 2015 21:35 Scorch wrote:
Of course they are better than someone who has only played the game for a few hours. Pure aiming skills only take you so far. They have much more experience, know the characters and the maps, the current imbalances, which team composition counters which...
David Kim used to be the best SC2 player in the world in the beginning.


Seems they ended up 7-7 today. Something like 1-17 yesterday. They close in pretty quickly as understanding and map awareness increases.
electrondude
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany27 Posts
November 01 2015 13:05 GMT
#1173
So after playing a bunch of games 20+ i think . I´m not so sure about this game while it takes some aspects from fps and provides different fps playstyles (quake cs etc ) it also includes a bunch of realy bad fps tropes like the never moving sniper , turret sections aimbots and more . Tbh to many things have some sort of autoaim . Also the maps are so dull . Its just a variant of 1 big choke+ 2 smaller entrances(sometimes only for certain classes) . Don´t get me wrong its trying to bring so many genre together and i quite enjoy the variety of playstyles . But overall it seems they try to level the playingfield so you don´t need any aim . Maybe its just the frustration speaking and or fatigue
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 01 2015 13:06 GMT
#1174
On November 01 2015 05:40 Aylear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2015 04:41 FeyFey wrote:
On October 31 2015 07:45 Ingvar wrote:
On October 31 2015 05:55 FeyFey wrote:
was linked already , for shame that you don't read everything !


Not enough PASSION. The girl is a Random bonjwa and people are discussing whether Sc2 is fast paced.


haha one of the comments was like, why is her race a 4 on a dice xD. But I guess she will have psy blades, stim packs and creep for vision speed boost !
And shoots bunny scarabs that only go off 70% of the time.

Bahahaha

The general consensus right now is that she's probably a mech pilot. Her suit looks like a plug suit from Evangelion, this in-game poster makes it look like she's in some kind of mech, she's in a group called "meka" (mecha), and she's a professional RTS player so it makes thematic sense that she's piloting/commanding something.

I just freaking love the "100% dokidoki" on her poster.

Edit: Also some golden posts:

"I'm going to guess this character is going to have a lot more Twitch based mechanics."

"Should require average of 300 APM to be played properly."

"If they ever add D.Va to heroes of the storm, she is going to be so confused..."
> "Imagine her face when they add a new hero to Overwatch, whose back story is they're a Heroes of the Storm player who mains D.Va."


Would be epic if she sets up a mobile computer somewhere and controls multiple bunny bots on the field with different purposes!
mecha is fine too though !
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12006 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-01 13:19:38
November 01 2015 13:19 GMT
#1175
On November 01 2015 22:05 electrondude wrote:
So after playing a bunch of games 20+ i think . I´m not so sure about this game while it takes some aspects from fps and provides different fps playstyles (quake cs etc ) it also includes a bunch of realy bad fps tropes like the never moving sniper , turret sections aimbots and more . Tbh to many things have some sort of autoaim . Also the maps are so dull . Its just a variant of 1 big choke+ 2 smaller entrances(sometimes only for certain classes) . Don´t get me wrong its trying to bring so many genre together and i quite enjoy the variety of playstyles . But overall it seems they try to level the playingfield so you don´t need any aim . Maybe its just the frustration speaking and or fatigue


From what I have seen aim is important. Seagull that I have been watching ends up top or near the top of his team regardless of hero. Plenty of room to do stuff better than others.

It isn't a pure aim game though, that I can agree with.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-01 13:58:30
November 01 2015 13:55 GMT
#1176
On November 01 2015 22:05 electrondude wrote:
So after playing a bunch of games 20+ i think . I´m not so sure about this game while it takes some aspects from fps and provides different fps playstyles (quake cs etc ) it also includes a bunch of realy bad fps tropes like the never moving sniper , turret sections aimbots and more . Tbh to many things have some sort of autoaim . Also the maps are so dull . Its just a variant of 1 big choke+ 2 smaller entrances(sometimes only for certain classes) . Don´t get me wrong its trying to bring so many genre together and i quite enjoy the variety of playstyles . But overall it seems they try to level the playingfield so you don´t need any aim . Maybe its just the frustration speaking and or fatigue


McCree ultimate has an aimbot which is announced to everyone before being active and can't go through shields

Soldier 74 ultimate has a soft aimbot where you have to put the reticle on the hitbox for it to work. don't know if he announces when he triggers his ultimate.

turrets are countered by AoE (most likely Farah)

don't know what's going to end up being considered OP in a competitive sense, but from a viewing perspective Mercy (heals & resurrection) and Reinhardt (tank + huge shield) seem to be some of the more important classes to have in a team comp

heard Lucio might be considered OP but I have no idea what's in his kit other than I think he has a Heal over Time

in terms of McCree & Soldier 74, if there's a player carrying the game with them, it's because they can aim without the need of their ultimate. if the player can't aim without the ultimate, they might get some kills with the ultimate, but they'll be a drag on the overall team most of the time
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22065 Posts
November 01 2015 13:58 GMT
#1177
Soldier 74 also announced "I got you in my sights" when he ults.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 01 2015 14:22 GMT
#1178
I don't understand soldier 74's ultimate. From what I have seen he has to put the crosshair over the model to use it. So that makes it different from aiming normally how? Also he seems so very bland compared to every other character.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 01 2015 14:29 GMT
#1179
On November 01 2015 23:22 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I don't understand soldier 74's ultimate. From what I have seen he has to put the crosshair over the model to use it. So that makes it different from aiming normally how? Also he seems so very bland compared to every other character.


his weapon spread normally starts going everywhere after the initial "X" amount of bullets of spraying

his ultimate guarantees ignores the spread and gaurantees his bullets hit the enemy hitbox if he puts his ultimate reticle over an enemy
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
November 01 2015 15:48 GMT
#1180
if waves are coming out every day, im hoping that when i get my new pc, blizz will be hoping to test out their game on my specs with the new processors
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