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lestye
United States4206 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 31 2015 02:13 lestye wrote: I think people are speculating too much. They haven't announced that the new division will be taking over or theyre disbanding the traditional Blizzard esports divisions. Or they are just having that same division handle more than just Blizzard games. There is few reasons Activision to have two production studios and have a bunch of redundant skills. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17456 Posts
On October 31 2015 02:13 lestye wrote: I think people are speculating too much. They haven't announced that the new division will be taking over or theyre disbanding the traditional Blizzard esports divisions. Kotick doesn't talk big unless he backs it up. everything esports will be under Mike Sepso and Steve Bornstein. Steve Bornstein is 2 management rungs above Morhaime on the ATVI executive ladder. http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSnBw225547a 100 BSW20151022 | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
On October 31 2015 00:32 Plansix wrote: It is zero fun to play every once and a while. It’s a game you either dive deep into or ignore. It’s the RTS problem in nutshell. This is exactly how I feel about Overwatch atm. After the initial excitement of getting into the beta and playing a new game, I'm ultimately faced with "do I want to spend a lot of time and become a decent player and enjoy that?" and if the answer is no then I'll just ignore the game. I do have fun just dabbling in some arcade games but I know there are people who take arcade games as seriously as I take SC2 and otherwise they wouldn't play. For whatever reason, some people are able to accept their current ability and have fun, but only with some games and not with others, and those games are different for everyone. I'm sure it's probably true that the current gaming population would have more immediate fun with Overwatch than SC2 multiplayer but for me it's the opposite. There have been weeks or months that I don't play SC2 and then I get the bug to play it and I enjoy picking it up again. For Overwatch so far, I just feel like I don't know the ranges on skills and my accuracy sucks and I can't keep track of all the other players in the game so it's overwhelming and stressful. Maybe if I learn it once then coming back to it won't be so bad. But initially learning it feels more like initially learning a difficult piano piece right now. Can't hear the music of the song at all before spending a lot of time learning the new techniques and working on bringing it up to tempo. | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On October 31 2015 00:19 lestye wrote: Oh wow did you know all these people or did you look up by their Twitch description? Anyway that's awesome. Thanks for the list. No problem! Credit goes to Reddit for most of that list, I just added a couple more like Talespin, Fazz, and Seagull. People I already know and can recommend. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
On October 31 2015 01:02 -Archangel- wrote: All true, that is why I found more fun RTS to play  As for Overwatch, the game looks as fun as older FPS I used to play when I was younger (quake, quake 2, TF1) so I am looking forward to playing it. Sorry but micro interactions in slow motion isn't fun either. Give me fast-paced RTS with a low learning curve and let me control large armies and I am sold. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17456 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On October 30 2015 00:20 Aylear wrote: From Reddit: http://www.twitch.tv/summit1g - CS player http://www.twitch.tv/zp_tv - Tribes player http://www.twitch.tv/stermytv - Arena FPS player (multiple games) http://www.twitch.tv/kudochop - Class based team FPS player (multiple games) http://www.twitch.tv/pyyyour - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/carnagejohnson - Quake/TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/coolmatt69 - Class based team FPS player (multiple games) http://www.twitch.tv/talespinlol - Class based team FPS player (multiple games) http://www.twitch.tv/flame - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/dahang - Quake player http://www.twitch.tv/ohcrocsle - Day of Defeat player http://www.twitch.tv/lolenigma - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/b4nny - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/clockwork - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/2gd - Quake player http://www.twitch.tv/juv3niletv - CoD player http://www.twitch.tv/a_seagull - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/outc1der - Battlefield / Dirty Bomb player http://www.twitch.tv/milleniumtv2 - ? Watching a_seagull right now because he got linked in this thread, and yeah the dude is nuts with Edit: Can also mention that talespin was the best Tribes: Ascend sniper in the game for a while. I'll bet he's utterly ridiculous as Widowmaker, but I haven't seen his stream yet. This is a great list and I'm enjoying watching these people. | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On October 31 2015 02:51 deth2munkies wrote: This is a great list and I'm enjoying watching these people. No problem! Quote the updated list though, added a couple of really good ones: On October 30 2015 07:58 Aylear wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/summit1g - CS player http://www.twitch.tv/zp_tv - Tribes player http://www.twitch.tv/stermytv - Arena FPS player (multiple games) http://www.twitch.tv/kudochop - Class based team FPS player (multiple games) http://www.twitch.tv/pyyyour - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/carnagejohnson - Quake/TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/coolmatt69 - Class based team FPS player (multiple games) http://www.twitch.tv/talespinlol - Class based team FPS player (multiple games) http://www.twitch.tv/flame - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/dahang - Quake player http://www.twitch.tv/ohcrocsle - Day of Defeat player http://www.twitch.tv/lolenigma - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/b4nny - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/clockwork - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/2gd - Quake player http://www.twitch.tv/fazz http://www.twitch.tv/juv3niletv - CoD player http://www.twitch.tv/a_seagull - TF2 player http://www.twitch.tv/outc1der - Battlefield / Dirty Bomb player http://www.twitch.tv/milleniumtv2 - ? I can personally recommend: http://www.twitch.tv/a_seagull for being good with Pharah and awesome with Junkrat. He's got some crazy skill shots. http://www.twitch.tv/2gd and http://www.twitch.tv/fazz play together (they are streaming as of writing) and they play offbeat heroes like Zenyatta and Symmetra and making them look brilliant. Fazz is the best Zenyatta I've seen so far. http://www.twitch.tv/talespinlol is a looong time competitive player who was the best sniper in Tribes: Ascend by far. He's on a journey through all the characters right now and hasn't settled on a class yet, but if he settles on Widowmaker he is probably going to be completely insane again. http://www.twitch.tv/coolmatt69 doesn't miss with Reaper, and he plays with Talespin. Offensive teleports are more of a thing than you'd think they'd be. http://www.twitch.tv/clockwork is the best Scout player in TF2 (playing for the best, currently undefeated team). He plays Tracer in Overwatch, which is a match made in heaven. He's the guy who had the 23 kill streak YouTube video that was linked in here earlier. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17456 Posts
https://battleborn.com/en/news/view/en-join-battleborns-closed-technical-test-on-october-29/ these 2 games look like direct competitors so far i prefer Overwatch over Battleborn. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On October 31 2015 03:28 JimmyJRaynor wrote: if u r upset about not getting into the Overwatch Beta there is a beta for a similar game called Battleborn going on now. it seems they are letting everyone in. there is an NDA though. https://battleborn.com/en/news/view/en-join-battleborns-closed-technical-test-on-october-29/ these 2 games look like direct competitors so far i prefer Overwatch over Battleborn. Thanks! Yea they gave me my key straight away, will play until I get invited to OW. | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On October 31 2015 00:17 Dangermousecatdog wrote: So basically SC2 isn't fun to play? I don't know, I have a lot of fun with SC2. If it ever loses it's steam, I just take my leave for another game for at most a couple of months but SC2 for as many problems it might have is always the most "fun" to go back to for me personally, more so than any moba or fps. There's a certain gratification that I get from playing Starcraft more than any other game. Anyways to get back on topic, I think just from my base impressions of playing Overwatch for a couple days that this game will be the next evolution of the "Team Fortress" genre because this is going to be the game where it's fun enough for people to get into when you're playing with friends (the social aspect in mobas makes it all the more appealing for example), the interface is extremely well done even in it's alpha state and the game has that Blizzard level of polish even this early in development (art, movement, shooting mechanics, etc). You're playing Team Fortress objectives with characters that fits into the TF archetype but it has more diversity in terms of characters and the shooting mechanica might appeal to more people. I'm not entirely this will be the next big hit like League but I think Blizzard is on the right direction for making this game attractive to people that aren't really into FPS's like how Hearthstone is able to reach an audience with a little to moderate interest in the TCG genre. I could totally see someone who might not be into Counter Strike or other games where you die within a couple of shots because Overwatch puts an emphasis on requiring roles that doesn't rely on having to have precise aim. That's not to say I don't think this game takes skill, I just think that because the of way the game is designed, it makes it so I could see people who might be put off by a hardcore FPS like CS could totally get into Overwatch. It really makes sense to me why Blizzard from a development standpoint decided on making Overwatch the way it is. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
I'm not entirely this will be the next big hit like League It probably won't be if its not F2P since an upfront-fee is a major barrier for people in the easy. If its F2P, I think it is a real possibility that it could overtake LOLs throne as the biggest game within a couple of years. But most likely, it will be $20 upfront + microtransactions in forms of skins/weapons. That's the safer solution and is almost guaranteed generate hundreds of millions of dollars. That's not to say I don't think this game takes skill, I just think that because the of way the game is designed, it makes it so I could see people who might be put off by a hardcore FPS like CS could totally get into Overwatch. The thing about this game that stands out to me is how it appeals to so many different players. I was watching a stream of Summi1t, who said he didn't like Tracer cus it had too much movement speed (which wasn't for him). Then I watched another stream said he didn't like Hanzo cus too much aim, loved Trazer.. And you probably also hear some (girls typically) say they prefer support/tanks because they have shitty mechanics (that's my stereotype!). And as you say, you are going to attract alot more people than Counterstrike which is a lot of waiting --> 100-0 --> more waiting. Some of that is still in OW since you can play high precision + high damage dealer heroes. But you can also opt for heroes where you constantly battle. It's probably the FPS game that the most amount of people will find some type of pleasure in. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On October 31 2015 04:28 Hider wrote: It probably won't be if its not F2P since an upfront-fee is a major barrier for people in the easy. If its F2P, I think it is a real possibility that it could overtake LOLs throne as the biggest game within a couple of years. But most likely, it will be $20 upfront + microtransactions in forms of skins/weapons. That's the safer solution and is almost guaranteed generate hundreds of millions of dollars. The thing about this game that stands out to me is how it appeals to so many different players. I was watching a stream of Summi1t, who said he didn't like Tracer cus it had too much movement speed (which wasn't for him). Then I watched another stream said he didn't like Hanzo cus too much aim. And you probably also hear some (girls typically) say they prefer supports because they have shitty mechanics (that's my stereotype!). And as you say, you are going to attract alot more people than Counterstrike which is a lot of waiting --> 100-0 --> waiting. Some of that is still in OW since you can play high precision + high damage dealer heroes. But you can also opt for heroes where you constantly battle. Exactly my thoughts. This agme manages to be extremely good while also appealing to a huge audience. It's like some kinda mega hybrid. | ||
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shin ken
Germany612 Posts
A friend (who was rocking the servers for 2 days straight right from his first match, as he was an Enemy Territory pro) allowed me to borrow his acc to test the game for a day. Long story short: I'm incredibly bad in the game and lost for hours upon hours, doing stupid stuff and being mostly dead. I really hope there's no ELO in this game yet, because by now the acc is probably in ELO hell. On a positive note: There was no-one flaming me or being rude even though I probably stressed the nerves of my teammates to extreme levels. I guess that's the upside of a very closed beta. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On October 31 2015 02:49 Hider wrote: Sorry but micro interactions in slow motion isn't fun either. Give me fast-paced RTS with a low learning curve and let me control large armies and I am sold. You already have that with sc2. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
Really? Sc2 has a low learning curve? And Sc2 isn't fast-paced. Units move fast, but you don't have any engagements for the most of the game. Fast-paced = Lots of engagements all the time and everywhere + fast-moving units. No developers has yet been able to develop such an RTS game (yet). | ||
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kongoline
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