EPTOn October 29 2015 10:27 johnbongham wrote:
Watching some streams. Game seems slow and boring.
Watching some streams. Game seems slow and boring.
You would be wrong.
General Discussion - Page 50
| Forum Index > General Games |
Please be advised: We will be closing this General thread in 24 hours. It will remain searchable. After that we will require new threads to discuss topics. Questions should go in the stickied Q&A thread, screenshots and PotG will go in the PotG sticky, QQ/Rage/Complaints should go in the QQ/Rage thread. If you want to talk about maps or strategies open a new thread. Any comments or concerns will be logged please forward them to ZeromuS. This new forum is still fluid so we will try this out. General TL rules will still apply to new threads. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12257 Posts
You would be wrong. | ||
|
zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On October 29 2015 13:06 Kuroeeah wrote: The game is really fun and polished but is lacking something about it right now. its over simplified in my opinion (for a few classes). i mean i didnt get beta, so this is just what i've seen. they've removed a lot of things that took some thinking/execution in the TF series through out the years. but that's what blizzard games are unfortunately, its about making things easy for the player base so that they dont quit 2 weeks into the game. qwtf is still my favourite tf. | ||
|
Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On October 29 2015 11:32 jalstar wrote: LoL's F2P model was one of the best for consumers in 2009 and it's one of the worst in 2015. The F2P sector has gotten much better and very few games still have power-giving items that are real money only. Everyone (besides Dota) is going for a pay-to-grind-less system and LoL's is one of the most time consuming, if not the most, for players who don't pay. Imo it doesn't really matter. You can play and pretty much do everything in LoL for free except for minor shit like skins or as you say to ease the grind. They should get paid for their work and you can throw down less money on LoL then what games today retail for and still get most of what the average person would want. Hell after playing LoL for so long I even felt that I needed to spend at least something on the game, just to show my appreciation. I probably played LoL as long as I did WoW and if you stack up the amount of cash I put into each game its not even close~ | ||
|
soanparlell
United States49 Posts
I know there have been some complaints about the /ease/ of the game, which I am unsure about. Blizzard games are usually new player friendly (unlike, say, Dota 2) but also had the complexity that is almost impossible to master. Hearthstone would be the perfect example of that style, and Team Fortress was always fun no matter your skill level. In between the nature of skill shots, the art of positioning, and the use of cooldowns (and ultimates), it seems like there is a lot of very small details that can be used to outplay one's opponents. What I am saying is, Blizzard give me a beta key, because all I can do right now is theory craft with no experience! | ||
|
Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On October 29 2015 14:19 soanparlell wrote: I'm curious to see what Overwatch is like playing it. As a TF2 fan, I got burnt out after playing it regularly for a few months, because while the classes are fun and versatile, the big problems with the game for me were the 16-32 player lobbies (which made classes like the scout more difficult), and that the experience of playing a class became stagnant after a time (I left before they started make lot of different guns, so that might be different.) I know there have been some complaints about the /ease/ of the game, which I am unsure about. Blizzard games are usually new player friendly (unlike, say, Dota 2) but also had the complexity that is almost impossible to master. Hearthstone would be the perfect example of that style, and Team Fortress was always fun no matter your skill level. In between the nature of skill shots, the art of positioning, and the use of cooldowns (and ultimates), it seems like there is a lot of very small details that can be used to outplay one's opponents. What I am saying is, Blizzard give me a beta key, because all I can do right now is theory craft with no experience! Yeah maybe as someone that doesn't like the TF genre is probably the reason why I don't really have the desire to go back to it but I do like Overwatch more than I ever liked TF2. I'm very curious in what old school TFC thinks of Overwatch, I think this game would be their wet dream. | ||
|
Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
My only shooter experience is Far Cry, I'm gonna be sooo bad at this :p | ||
|
Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
On October 29 2015 18:36 Amestir wrote: Randomly got in the beta, awesome! My only shooter experience is Far Cry, I'm gonna be sooo bad at this :p Salt. | ||
|
Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
 I'm sorry bro | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
you can play and pretty much do everything in LoL you can play like 10 champions out of more then a 100 so thats just not true. Either way these discussions about whether they are unlocked or not or comparisons to other models are kinda useless aren't they? I thought there was confirmation that all heroes are going to be unlocked(which is fucking gr8 for consumers). That means that the model is probably just going to be cosmetics, alternate voices/announcers like Dota(which is awesome). Or is there still vagueness about what kind of payment model it is going to be? | ||
|
Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
PM me your battlenet account & password and I accept your apology. | ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22648 Posts
On October 29 2015 19:39 Kipsate wrote: can you gift beta, a friend of mine got it and he doesn't even intend to play it(rip that always happens). you can play like 10 champions out of more then a 100 so thats just not true. Either way these discussions about whether they are unlocked or not or comparisons to other models are kinda useless aren't they? I thought there was confirmation that all heroes are going to be unlocked(which is fucking gr8 for consumers). That means that the model is probably just going to be cosmetics, alternate voices/announcers like Dota(which is awesome). Or is there still vagueness about what kind of payment model it is going to be? There are no keys so you cannot share the beta. All you can do is share the Bnet account, note that this is against the ToS tho so do at your own risk. | ||
|
Bacillus
Finland2112 Posts
| ||
|
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On October 29 2015 20:45 Bacillus wrote: Has anyone come across any decent videos from the high mobility characters? Most of the stuff I've seen so far is from very casual streamers and such and they're mostly playing the tankier characters. The slower stuff don't really excite me that much from spectator viewpoint at least, I'd need to play it first to appreciate any of that. The game has a rocket jumping character, that is all I need as a old Quake2/3 player  | ||
|
Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
On October 29 2015 20:45 Bacillus wrote: Has anyone come across any decent videos from the high mobility characters? Most of the stuff I've seen so far is from very casual streamers and such and they're mostly playing the tankier characters. The slower stuff don't really excite me that much from spectator viewpoint at least, I'd need to play it first to appreciate any of that. Someone linked this yesterday, for some reason its 480p and it's too flashy for me to tell wtf is going on as I haven't even played the game but might be what you're looking for. + Show Spoiler + | ||
|
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
Good thing at the end the game will say who did most damage to enemy team and that value is worthy more than last hits or kill streaks. | ||
|
WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
Seems okay from the few streams I watched but games seems rather repetitive as of yet. | ||
|
nanaoei
3358 Posts
On October 29 2015 20:56 -Archangel- wrote: Kill streaks are counted differently in Overwatch. You don't need to kill enemy to get a kill counted, you just need to do some damage to it as part of team effort. When a red skull shows up on screen together with elimination message you did the last hit, but the game does not care about that and counts those together with any other where you didn't do last hit. Good thing at the end the game will say who did most damage to enemy team and that value is worthy more than last hits or kill streaks. not quite as much when there's an important healing role in the game. it's really similar to the stats presented in heroes of the storm. they don't really reflect that you dealt useful damage, but they do tell a short story about the circumstances if you understand the picks. people just spam or constantly deal damage on the forefront to buffer this stat and later claim that they did their part. it's somewhat disgusting since it's common practice for ranked and solo queuing or even in normals with couple friends, and it's hard to tell how well someone actually played without watching them in the first place. if it were any other game than overwatch being a role-based shooter with the objectives it currently has, i'd weigh the kills + deaths a lot more. you just simply don't need to deal as much damage if you do it effectively or if the other team simply has less effective health overall. | ||
|
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
| ||
|
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 29 2015 19:39 Kipsate wrote: can you gift beta, a friend of mine got it and he doesn't even intend to play it(rip that always happens). you can play like 10 champions out of more then a 100 so thats just not true. Either way these discussions about whether they are unlocked or not or comparisons to other models are kinda useless aren't they? I thought there was confirmation that all heroes are going to be unlocked(which is fucking gr8 for consumers). That means that the model is probably just going to be cosmetics, alternate voices/announcers like Dota(which is awesome). Or is there still vagueness about what kind of payment model it is going to be? Someone said earlier that it's they've gone on record saying all characters will be unlocked on launch but without seeing the specific language I would be cautious about that meaning that all characters will be unlocked forever. They can make so much money by locking new characters behind something like a temporary paywall that it makes very little business sense not to do at least that. | ||
|
Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On October 29 2015 21:25 WhiteDog wrote: I'm waiting for the beta, it will come any minute now I'm sure (lolz). Seems okay from the few streams I watched but games seems rather repetitive as of yet. To me it looks really good. But it would be awesome if they had more game modes, like Unreal Tournament. On October 29 2015 22:09 TheTenthDoc wrote: Someone said earlier that it's they've gone on record saying all characters will be unlocked on launch but without seeing the specific language I would be cautious about that meaning that all characters will be unlocked forever. They can make so much money by locking new characters behind something like a temporary paywall that it makes very little business sense not to do at least that. Yeah paid early access to new characters sounds realistic. I would not mind that. | ||
| ||
