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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16925 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On October 29 2015 03:08 jcarlsoniv wrote: I think it'd be more accurate to say it presents the illusion of financial success. Lots of broke people also spend money on fancy clothes or other cosmetic real life things in order to exude that status, often in an inherently counter-productive way. Was an interesting day when I stopped to think about why I see so many beemers and mercs parked in front of crappy old apartment buildings. | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
DOTA 2 is best obviously but Smite's model is also reasonable. The fact that they haven't already announced this game as f2p makes me think it's skewing towards an upfront cost. <$30 and it's looking good to me. If they make you pay then lock any characters behind a pay/grind wall however, well that'd be a big joke, especially because you know there'd be a small contingent of fans who'd defend that model as fair and "great value" or whatever. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1075 Posts
Kids have paypal, kids play Dota/Lol/Hots, kids play CS, kids have the attention span of a goldfish. Lets combine that into a Game. Where you won't have a skilll based competion because hit-Detection is client-sided. And all frustration can be solved by spending more real money. Yeah. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 29 2015 03:25 KT_Elwood wrote: It's too generic to be a good ole Blizzard game. Kids have paypal, kids play Dota/Lol/Hots, kids play CS, kids have the attention span of a goldfish. Lets combine that into a Game. Where you won't have a skilll based competion because hit-Detection is client-sided. And all frustration can be solved by spending more real money. Yeah. This hot take brought to you by the internet, facts not included. Jesus what a pile of junk. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On October 29 2015 03:27 Plansix wrote: This hot take brought to you by the internet, facts not included. Jesus what a pile of junk. agreed... sooooo many things wrong in such a short post... IMO it looks to do the genre the same thing LoL did to the MOBA genre.. personally, I think this game is going to be HUGE! It has the perfect balance of casual/hardcore. It has a lot of Blizzard personality, which imo a lot of people love about Blizzard titles. I dont understand what the whole 2nd half of this shitpost is even trying to say... the game is pay to win somehow if it sells skins or costs money to unlock champs? Neither of those things are pay to win. Anyways, am pretty sure it will follow the HotS pricing scheme... free to play, with free champs on weekly rotation.. play to unlock, or pay to unlock faster, skins will sell for cash, because everyone likes the idea of being a unique butterfly. Game looks like great fun, and improves on the Tf2 concept in a lot of ways IMO... IDK i felt like this title is Blizzards first return to form since WC3. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9407 Posts
IMO it looks to do the genre the same thing LoL did to the MOBA genre.. I don't like that comparison. What LOL did was to to create a platform + business model to a new genre and reduce the learning barrier. The game it self in 2009-2010 was, however, extremely flawed. Eventually the game has been proved significantly, but it's still has a tons of poor designs in it (the whole item system and the passive state in competitive play). LOL was also clearly inspired by the grinding part of MMORGS (which were very popular back then), but the mastery + level + rune system is just dumb. This is an example of a poor way of learning from other games. What Overwatch does is the opposite. It is not attempting to be succesful just by creating a good platform at release. Instead, the focus is on making the best type of game possible and take the good parts from all different genres. Anyways, am pretty sure it will follow the HotS pricing scheme... free to play, with free champs on weekly rotation.. play to unlock, or pay to unlock faster, skins will sell for cash, because everyone likes the idea of being a unique butterfly. Already been discussed and it doens't make sense for how Overwatch is structured. More relevant, Blizzard already said previously said it won't be the case. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 29 2015 03:41 Requizen wrote: The outplay potential on Tracer and McCree seems so huuuuge Outplay Potential is my favorite indie Post Industrial Nerd Core band. | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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ref4
2933 Posts
On October 29 2015 04:34 hariooo wrote: Lol imagine locking heroes away for game modes where you're supposed to be able to freely swap heroes on death. Even Blizzard isn't that stupid, right? You give Activ-Blizz too much credit. In terms of graphic, audio and cinematic they are the absolute #1 top dog but when it comes to game balancing and overall decision-making.....they don't make too much sense sometimes. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10800 Posts
Audio/Cinematic any day.. But Graphics? | ||
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lestye
United States4182 Posts
I'm actually much happier with an upfront cost with cosmetic microtransactions. Part of the reason I don't want to play HotS is because I don't want to grind or spend an unreasonable amount of time/money just to be at gameplay parity. That's ridiculous to me. I want to be able to use any character front the get-go. That would be best case scenario. I think you need an upfront cost to deter cheaters in an FPS game. Plus I think I said this before, but denying options in a game where you can swap heroes is completely pay to win. Not even debatable. | ||
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Gear 3rd
1244 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
Anyone else? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 29 2015 06:40 DinoMight wrote: Just got invited into the beta guys woooo! Anyone else? Memes are not allowed, but I can think of like 20 grumpycat memes I could post right now. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21945 Posts
On October 29 2015 06:41 Plansix wrote: Memes are not allowed, but I can think of like 20 grumpycat memes I could post right now. yep. much shaking of fists. But yes they are sending out another wave of invite. Maybe there doing a wave every day until the weekend? | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 29 2015 06:44 zev318 wrote: its hilarious to see which streamers blizzard has decided to give the beta access to Its the ones they have professional, working relationships with. Literally nothing surprises me about who got beta access. The people throwing a fit about it so sad its not even funny. | ||
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