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Elerris
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia137 Posts
May 03 2016 12:52 GMT
#3281
Mei will be the death of me.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 03 2016 12:56 GMT
#3282
Anyone got any tips on how to play Mcree or Genji? Seem like cool heroes but hard to play.
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 03 2016 13:20 GMT
#3283
People who don't stand on point! ARGGGGG. Some fool tried to out Mei me. I am the one true Mei.
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salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 13:21:39
May 03 2016 13:21 GMT
#3284
I suck but here's my two top tips for McCree
Use your ultimate when there's people bunched up and can't run and hide behind corners easily. (eg clearing an objective point)

Use the stunning bomb on the mobile heroes if they get too close.

(bonus, note the location of the sun in the sky then disregard and declare the time to be high noon no matter what)
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 13:26:24
May 03 2016 13:26 GMT
#3285
Wait for your Mei to ult their entire team on the capture point, freeze them all, then high noon them and laugh and laugh and laugh. That requires coordination though, dumb luck works too.
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salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
May 03 2016 14:01 GMT
#3286
Yeah for all heroes trying to use your ult together with allies abilities/ults are pretty key to get more out of your hero, for McCree that would be the ones that force people to relocate away from their current shelter (like d.va's bomb or Hanzo's dragon) since it makes them having to choose between a rock and a hard place but especially the abilities making them unable to dodge, such as mei's freeze or zarya's graviton bomb are great (since that maximizes the potential of both the ults)

if there's a d.va on the opposing team though she can shut your ult down with a well timed projectile intercept thing.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 03 2016 14:06 GMT
#3287
On May 03 2016 21:56 Kipsate wrote:
Anyone got any tips on how to play Mcree or Genji? Seem like cool heroes but hard to play.

I've been working hard on Genji. I think you really need to know the maps well to be good with him. You gotta stay on the move and constantly hit people from behind.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
May 03 2016 14:49 GMT
#3288
An1 got a spare PC beta code for eu ? Want to try ow out
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Ikidomari
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia485 Posts
May 03 2016 15:54 GMT
#3289
I'm not sure what the deal with key begging is in this general, if I'm not meant to just lemme know and I'll nuke my post.
but if anyone has a spare PC key (I live in Aus but my roommates are playing on NA servers), I'd greatly appreciate it.
I'd also be willing to trade some dota 2 hats for a key (probably be willing to part ways with some ember spirit immortal rapiers). Thanks.
Just break the rules, and you see the truth.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
May 03 2016 17:07 GMT
#3290
If you guys think that people are interested in winning, and not just screwing around with a new game, then I think you are quite mistaken.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 03 2016 17:32 GMT
#3291
On May 03 2016 21:56 Kipsate wrote:
Anyone got any tips on how to play Mcree or Genji? Seem like cool heroes but hard to play.


Here is a McCree guide that may help some.

With McCree the recoil of right click is difficult to control, with the pistol's crosshair being pushed up, so pulling your mouse down as you fire is the way to compensate for it.

ApatheticSchizoid
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Canada85 Posts
May 03 2016 17:37 GMT
#3292
I will say that I've been loving Hanzo. Not only does he look cool, he's really overpowered if you can aim. I had a game where I got 5 kills with my ulti twice. Needless to say, he can be really good.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 03 2016 17:49 GMT
#3293
You can throw your Flashbang over Reinhards shield and stun him and then Rightclick him down. Don't throw Flashbangs directly at Genji if they have parry up. They can reflect only direct hits of the flashbang.

If you high noon, be wary about Genji as he can parry it. Diva who can just face rush you and block your vision. Or Stuns and Sniper. And you can get Reinhards shield low, if to many hide behind it, the shield will take to much damage break and kill people behind it regardless.

As for Genji, poke from range and only dash in if you get a kill so you can dash out again, try to get a feeling for the range of Dash. As with every mobility hero, map knowledge is important, though Genjiy doesn't need to know the maps blindly, like for example Tracer, where blinks to the right and left of your vision are rather important.
I can't explain Parry really ... its the thing that allows you to move into sniper line of sight. It does so much stuff vs different heroes. You can even reflect some ults. But if its down, don't show yourself in the open.
You can also reset your double jump after a wall run, allowing you to do some funky triple jumps.


Soldier 76 can also do some trick jumps with the helix rocket. Just allows to make some jumps more save or take a few shortcuts.

As for the new Roadhoggs out there. You max damage combo is. Right click -> Hook -> Leftclick -> Melee. That can kill Tanks even. Also your right click can one shot 200 hp heroes on range if you learn the distance of your right click and can explode the balls right before enemies you will be unstoppable.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21693 Posts
May 03 2016 17:51 GMT
#3294
On May 04 2016 02:49 FeyFey wrote:
You can throw your Flashbang over Reinhards shield and stun him and then Rightclick him down. Don't throw Flashbangs directly at Genji if they have parry up. They can reflect only direct hits of the flashbang.

If you high noon, be wary about Genji as he can parry it. Diva who can just face rush you and block your vision. Or Stuns and Sniper. And you can get Reinhards shield low, if to many hide behind it, the shield will take to much damage break and kill people behind it regardless.

As for Genji, poke from range and only dash in if you get a kill so you can dash out again, try to get a feeling for the range of Dash. As with every mobility hero, map knowledge is important, though Genjiy doesn't need to know the maps blindly, like for example Tracer, where blinks to the right and left of your vision are rather important.
I can't explain Parry really ... its the thing that allows you to move into sniper line of sight. It does so much stuff vs different heroes. You can even reflect some ults. But if its down, don't show yourself in the open.
You can also reset your double jump after a wall run, allowing you to do some funky triple jumps.


Soldier 76 can also do some trick jumps with the helix rocket. Just allows to make some jumps more save or take a few shortcuts.

As for the new Roadhoggs out there. You max damage combo is. Right click -> Hook -> Leftclick -> Melee. That can kill Tanks even. Also your right click can one shot 200 hp heroes on range if you learn the distance of your right click and can explode the balls right before enemies you will be unstoppable.

hehe reminds of the Pax Battle for the Watch where I would cringe everytime Tycho hooked someone and failed to do anything with it ><
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
May 03 2016 18:57 GMT
#3295
On May 04 2016 02:32 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2016 21:56 Kipsate wrote:
Anyone got any tips on how to play Mcree or Genji? Seem like cool heroes but hard to play.


Here is a McCree guide that may help some.

With McCree the recoil of right click is difficult to control, with the pistol's crosshair being pushed up, so pulling your mouse down as you fire is the way to compensate for it.


Every CS player is just yawning about this. XD

I'm actually quite suprised that my Hanzo is pretty good already. I thought I'd have a lot harder time to get along with him.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 03 2016 19:18 GMT
#3296
On May 04 2016 02:49 FeyFey wrote:

As for the new Roadhoggs out there. You max damage combo is. Right click -> Hook -> Leftclick -> Melee. That can kill Tanks even. Also your right click can one shot 200 hp heroes on range if you learn the distance of your right click and can explode the balls right before enemies you will be unstoppable.


For some reason I've been having trouble timing the shot after hook and I miss either the shot or the melee. I've gotten it a couple times though, and damn do you feel powerful doing it.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 20:26:38
May 03 2016 20:16 GMT
#3297
oops wrong thread
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
May 03 2016 20:30 GMT
#3298
On May 04 2016 04:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 02:49 FeyFey wrote:

As for the new Roadhoggs out there. You max damage combo is. Right click -> Hook -> Leftclick -> Melee. That can kill Tanks even. Also your right click can one shot 200 hp heroes on range if you learn the distance of your right click and can explode the balls right before enemies you will be unstoppable.


For some reason I've been having trouble timing the shot after hook and I miss either the shot or the melee. I've gotten it a couple times though, and damn do you feel powerful doing it.


My problem is that I've had people hooked that don't land right in front of me. Sometimes they land off to the right or left, hell I even hooked a Dva pilot that ended up behind me somehow. Not to mention hooking people around corners and having them not come at all because they hit the intervening wall. His hook is a bit buggy atm.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 03 2016 22:19 GMT
#3299
Learning Genji feels a lot like learning Zeratul in Heroes of the Storm. There's a ton of trial and error involved. And, above all else, you gotta learn patience.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
May 03 2016 22:41 GMT
#3300
On May 04 2016 07:19 xDaunt wrote:
Learning Genji feels a lot like learning Zeratul in Heroes of the Storm. There's a ton of trial and error involved. And, above all else, you gotta learn patience.


Playing Tracer is a lot like playing Tracer in Heroes of the Storm, except you have to aim.
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