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Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
May 03 2016 22:43 GMT
#3301
Bastion is pure death
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9388 Posts
May 03 2016 22:50 GMT
#3302
On May 04 2016 07:41 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 07:19 xDaunt wrote:
Learning Genji feels a lot like learning Zeratul in Heroes of the Storm. There's a ton of trial and error involved. And, above all else, you gotta learn patience.


Playing Tracer is a lot like playing Tracer in Heroes of the Storm, except you have to aim.


Tracer feels more like an easy-to-learn hard to master hero. Genji is like a hard to learn very hard to master hero.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 22:51:33
May 03 2016 22:51 GMT
#3303
anyone wanna team up ?

i'm bad btw

enjoying mei tho.
WriterXiao8~~
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 03 2016 23:46 GMT
#3304
This game is cancer, everything is frustrating and even destroying everyone is somehow not satisfying for me -_-. Oh well, I'm a mess with nothing better to do.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 01:36:54
May 04 2016 01:32 GMT
#3305
I like Tracer because i was mainly a Scout player in TF2 but damn she's so hard to play correctly. You need perfect map knowledge, good aim and insane reflexes for the return in time.
Knowing where you go with blink even when you don't see where you're blinking too is super hard.

It's like playing Scout on steroid. But Scout didn't have to aim as well lol

The game is very fun but I can't help but feel salty about Bastion at times. There's copunter to him alright but he's just the kind of archetype that irritate me.

Also, i'm kinda on the fence about Play of the game just being showcase of ultimates hitting lots of people or killing spree from a Dwarf turret or a stationary bastion.


Overall really, I like the game but I'm fearing getting caught in what made me leave LoL and DotA for Fighting games. I can't handle having to carry people who don't give a crap... =/
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
May 04 2016 01:59 GMT
#3306
ranked has people who generally care and the people who dont give a crap arent around very long most of the time
but in beta with the quick play only stuff you are kinda stuck with all types.

Also bastion is super easy to kill and super bad if his team doesnt play around him and you know what to do. He is very weak overall against smart teams. Theres just so many people who dont know the game atm that hes very easy to pull off. He's absolutely miserable in coordinated play because he can only shoot 1 person at a time, doesnt move, and gets bursted super fast - that plus high spread means range destroys him, hanzo and widow shoulder peeking him kill him in 2 shots.

StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 04 2016 02:00 GMT
#3307
On May 04 2016 07:50 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 07:41 deth2munkies wrote:
On May 04 2016 07:19 xDaunt wrote:
Learning Genji feels a lot like learning Zeratul in Heroes of the Storm. There's a ton of trial and error involved. And, above all else, you gotta learn patience.


Playing Tracer is a lot like playing Tracer in Heroes of the Storm, except you have to aim.


Tracer feels more like an easy-to-learn hard to master hero. Genji is like a hard to learn very hard to master hero.

Yeah, Genji's skill curve is obscene. I still screw up all of the time. But man, when things are clicking, he can make some of the sickest plays.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10656 Posts
May 04 2016 02:11 GMT
#3308
I hate good genji's with a passion.

But I love them when they are on my team.
Skol
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 04 2016 02:21 GMT
#3309
On May 04 2016 10:59 ZeromuS wrote:
ranked has people who generally care and the people who dont give a crap arent around very long most of the time
but in beta with the quick play only stuff you are kinda stuck with all types.

Also bastion is super easy to kill and super bad if his team doesnt play around him and you know what to do. He is very weak overall against smart teams. Theres just so many people who dont know the game atm that hes very easy to pull off. He's absolutely miserable in coordinated play because he can only shoot 1 person at a time, doesnt move, and gets bursted super fast - that plus high spread means range destroys him, hanzo and widow shoulder peeking him kill him in 2 shots.




I know but so is engineer in TF2, and that didn't stop me from being salty about them when a turret randomly kills me. :p

Ranked unlocks at lvl 25 right ?
I guess I'll have to go throught that and see.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 04 2016 03:19 GMT
#3310
Since comms suck in quick match and nobody is playing seriously, I can't trust anyone to actually take down these heroes that my class can't handle in any given game. Sucks that whenever I switch that's when my team ends up actually killing the thing I couldn't handle and then we're 2 hanzos and 1 widowmaker and their bastion switched to something else and I'm useless
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
May 04 2016 04:06 GMT
#3311
On May 04 2016 12:19 Djzapz wrote:
Since comms suck in quick match and nobody is playing seriously, I can't trust anyone to actually take down these heroes that my class can't handle in any given game. Sucks that whenever I switch that's when my team ends up actually killing the thing I couldn't handle and then we're 2 hanzos and 1 widowmaker and their bastion switched to something else and I'm useless


phara's good too

but more important is an overall well balanced comp

and making friends so add ppl you really like and you are good to go

I have a number of ppl i really like to play with from beta already
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 04 2016 05:45 GMT
#3312
Any explosives destroy turrets. Don't have to directly hit, can bounce them off walls and stuff.
LiquidDota Staff
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 05:52:38
May 04 2016 05:52 GMT
#3313
edit: wrong thread
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 04 2016 05:58 GMT
#3314
Could make a discord server (or a game channel on the TL discord server) if there's any interest in people gathering and being shitters together.
LiquidDota Staff
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
May 04 2016 08:01 GMT
#3315
On May 04 2016 11:21 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 10:59 ZeromuS wrote:
ranked has people who generally care and the people who dont give a crap arent around very long most of the time
but in beta with the quick play only stuff you are kinda stuck with all types.

Also bastion is super easy to kill and super bad if his team doesnt play around him and you know what to do. He is very weak overall against smart teams. Theres just so many people who dont know the game atm that hes very easy to pull off. He's absolutely miserable in coordinated play because he can only shoot 1 person at a time, doesnt move, and gets bursted super fast - that plus high spread means range destroys him, hanzo and widow shoulder peeking him kill him in 2 shots.



Ranked unlocks at lvl 25 right ?
I guess I'll have to go throught that and see.

No ranked in open beta.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
May 04 2016 08:14 GMT
#3316
I was wrong, Lucio is def. my favorite
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
May 04 2016 08:57 GMT
#3317
Felt pretty stupid when I was covering an entire corridor with my Reinhardt shield barrier and a Mccree just rolled through it and unloaded into my back.

Also felt stupid when I set my Tornbjörn turret to high ground on the first defense point and their Widowmaker destroyed it from other side of the map.

Certainly felt stupid when a Reinhardt charged half of my team including me down from a cliff.

I do wish that when attacking people would learn to fucking regroup when there's a bigger wipe instead of running to their deaths 1 by 1.
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany612 Posts
May 04 2016 10:49 GMT
#3318
I'm going to play the open beta with a friend for an evening or two.
He has almost no experience with shooters or action games, but playing together is still a lot better than playing alone with randoms. I need constant communication in my fps games - I'm used to it from CS, MWO and Battlefield - but the few times I borrowed a close beta account and played alone, I was the only one talking and the others were completely silent and most of the time didn't even seem to listen.

With a friend, I can at least communicate with him. I can't believe that there are people who don't want to talk in a team based game. You need to coordinate, have a plan (even if it's simple), review your effectiveness as a team and try to react, call incoming targets and enemy movement, set priority targets etc. etc. - basically there should be almost constant radio chatter.

I'm giving the game one more chance to convince me but this will need to be one heck of a good time, because to me this is a typical 20€-max multiplayer game and I just can't justify paying 40€ for it unless I get absolutely hooked and want to play more at all cost. Especially since I would have to give up playing another game regularly because I only have so much time.

When I'm in a state next week on tuesday morning. where I don't want to play anything else and all my thoughts revolve around Overwatch, then I'll probably buy it.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21692 Posts
May 04 2016 10:56 GMT
#3319
On May 04 2016 19:49 shin ken wrote:
I'm going to play the open beta with a friend for an evening or two.
He has almost no experience with shooters or action games, but playing together is still a lot better than playing alone with randoms. I need constant communication in my fps games - I'm used to it from CS, MWO and Battlefield - but the few times I borrowed a close beta account and played alone, I was the only one talking and the others were completely silent and most of the time didn't even seem to listen.

With a friend, I can at least communicate with him. I can't believe that there are people who don't want to talk in a team based game. You need to coordinate, have a plan (even if it's simple), review your effectiveness as a team and try to react, call incoming targets and enemy movement, set priority targets etc. etc. - basically there should be almost constant radio chatter.

I'm giving the game one more chance to convince me but this will need to be one heck of a good time, because to me this is a typical 20€-max multiplayer game and I just can't justify paying 40€ for it unless I get absolutely hooked and want to play more at all cost. Especially since I would have to give up playing another game regularly because I only have so much time.

When I'm in a state next week on tuesday morning. where I don't want to play anything else and all my thoughts revolve around Overwatch, then I'll probably buy it.

I want to chill out and enjoy some video games. If I wanted serious comms I would find a premade.

Heck before I started up my first game I disabled voice audio so I didn't have to annoyed by the potential of a 12y old COD baby spamming yo mama jokes.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany612 Posts
May 04 2016 11:55 GMT
#3320
On May 04 2016 19:56 Gorsameth wrote:
I want to chill out and enjoy some video games. If I wanted serious comms I would find a premade.

Heck before I started up my first game I disabled voice audio so I didn't have to annoyed by the potential of a 12y old COD baby spamming yo mama jokes.


I think it's a lot easier and relaxing to play if someone's calling the shots.
You don't have to think so much for yourself and you can focus on following orders and the gunplay. Of course it's quite stressful to be the team leader/shotcaller but someone has to do it and if you're on the benefitting side it's easytime and you'll stomp most teams without coordination even if you don't tryhard/give 100%.
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