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Please be advised: We will be closing this General thread in 24 hours. It will remain searchable. After that we will require new threads to discuss topics. Questions should go in the stickied Q&A thread, screenshots and PotG will go in the PotG sticky, QQ/Rage/Complaints should go in the QQ/Rage thread. If you want to talk about maps or strategies open a new thread. Any comments or concerns will be logged please forward them to ZeromuS. This new forum is still fluid so we will try this out. General TL rules will still apply to new threads. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Pegas
Romania211 Posts
On March 30 2016 23:43 Plansix wrote: That is clearly explained that it felt out of place for Tracer and they felt they could make a better pose for her that reflected her personality. Widow maker has nothing to do with it, since the digital booty is part of her vamp, femme fatale character design. It is becoming increasingly clear that people are just providing their hot take on the subject without reading up on the discussion and Blizzards response. They see “the sexy pose was removed” and just to the reasons they think it took place. So like you are saying Widowmaker pose is fine because she is a slut and Tracer is not because it doesn`t fits her character? Last time I`ve checked this is a shooting videogame. Also do you think at any point a small kid looks at the game (girl) and thinks of the char`s butt or I just don`t see correct things? http://overwatch.blizzplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/windowmaker-victory-pose-4-over-the-shoulder.png Like I might be totaly wrong in how I view things honestly fishing for a different pov that makes sense here. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 31 2016 00:00 Pegas wrote: So like you are saying Widowmaker pose is fine because she is a slut and Tracer is not because it doesn`t fits her character? Last time I`ve checked this is a shooting videogame. Also do you think at any point a small kid looks at the game (girl) and thinks of the char`s butt or I just don`t see correct things? http://overwatch.blizzplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/windowmaker-victory-pose-4-over-the-shoulder.png Why are you asking me questions that can be answered simply by reading the posts by Blizzard and the guy who initially commented? Is it my job to educate you on stuff that can be found through a light google search? | ||
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Pegas
Romania211 Posts
On March 31 2016 00:03 Plansix wrote: Why are you asking me questions that can be answered simply by reading the posts by Blizzard and the guy who initially commented? Is it my job to educate you on stuff that can be found through a light google search? Didn`t wanted to bother you much just wanted to read a different pov , will Google search it thx for the reply. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
When can the hardcore gaming community finally admit the fact is will always be mainly male orientated, and males like small to large quantities of sexualization in their games So do females | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
76 has that Anderson Cooper silver fox thing going on. Hubba hubba. | ||
ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
On March 30 2016 23:59 Seuss wrote: The "hardcore" gaming community is only young male-oriented due to cultural inertia. Give it a couple of decades and hardcore female gamers won't be seen as anomalies. Yeah, that's why competitive sports and gambling are full of women... There will be "more" women yes, but it will always be male dominated and male orientated. And ironically the women who are attracted to the male dominated spaces are attracted to them, because of the way they are, they dont want them to change for them either... | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
On March 31 2016 00:27 Cyro wrote: ^some of the women The "majority" dont we love democratic processes? | ||
salle
Sweden5554 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On March 31 2016 00:47 salle wrote: I think people have the wrong idea about people being offended, no one is being offended, it's about how one of the cosmetic options of one of the characters where out of character..... if we had a skin where junkrat is mooning, that would be in character, but if say mcree did it it'd be wrong... this pose just didn't fit this character, they can solve it in multiple ways, changing the model, tweaking the current pose, removing the pose and doing something different. .... like ... it's not a huge deal...... molehills..... McCree has the same pose and so does Hanzo. How does it fit those two characters more than Tracer? | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
So if one out of who knows how many skins/poses/whatever is a little bit different / shows a different side of a character (which is arguable in this one case in the first place) then it shouldn't be in the game? So characters aren't allowed to have many facettes, that alone is quite the poor pov and shows how far behind videogames still are. | ||
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ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On March 31 2016 00:54 Tenks wrote: McCree has the same pose and so does Hanzo. How does it fit those two characters more than Tracer? Unlike Tracer, they aren't doing this with their butt. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://49.media.tumblr.com/88c556a4e8b15f72df55046f90fcd68f/tumblr_myu60waPZg1ryrcbmo1_250.gif) | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 31 2016 00:47 salle wrote: I think people have the wrong idea about people being offended, no one is being offended, it's about how one of the cosmetic options of one of the characters where out of character..... if we had a skin where junkrat is mooning, that would be in character, but if say mcree did it it'd be wrong... this pose just didn't fit this character, they can solve it in multiple ways, changing the model, tweaking the current pose, removing the pose and doing something different. .... like ... it's not a huge deal...... molehills..... Its only a huge deal if you want to view it as this larger trend of Blizzard listening to people who have different opinions on what they are looking for in a game. Then it’s the sudden realization that maybe you are not the center of Blizzard’s attention any more. | ||
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ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
On March 31 2016 01:04 Plansix wrote: Its only a huge deal if you want to view it as this larger trend of Blizzard listening to people who have different opinions on what they are looking for in a game. Then it’s the sudden realization that maybe you are not the center of Blizzard’s attention any more. Hey trust me, I'd love to see Blizzard panic if their old school core gamers left all at once, they had a mini seizure with D3 which resulted in a completely different team making RoS, WoWs barely holding new players and core players and if other games are any kind of indicator Overwatch will have a big ol launch and then devolve into an angry team shooter, which is likely to scare off that new market they might be going for, either they'll accept a competitive volatile scene or we'll get to watch yet another company try to "manage" gamer attitudes and language, that'll be fun, always is. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On March 31 2016 00:59 Seuss wrote: Unlike Tracer, they aren't doing this with their butt. + Show Spoiler + But that implies it is different because of sexual undertones. An argument many people are making is simply over the shoulder doesn't fit her character. But many of these poses really have nothing to do with the hero. They're just poses. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On March 31 2016 01:18 Tenks wrote: But that implies it is different because of sexual undertones. An argument many people are making is simply over the shoulder doesn't fit her character. But many of these poses really have nothing to do with the hero. They're just poses. The argument is the over the shoulder pose doesn't fit her character because of the sexual overtones of that pose/posture. You don't run into the same problem with McCree and Hanzo because, despite also being seen from behind, their pose/posture is different and reads "badass, brooding MFers". | ||
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