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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 30 2016 06:01 Cyro wrote: It's the sample of people in the discussion thread; best anyone can do. It's about to hit 6000 forum-goers by now You can feel free to cite it all you want, but people have pointed out that as a survey, it is hopelessly flawed and provides little insight into the topic. The best that is available is super shit. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
On March 30 2016 05:55 Plansix wrote: You have evidence of 4000 people taking a pool that is, in no way, reflective of the entire Blizzard community or potential buyers of Overwatch. That is it. The evidence that exists is useless. Those never existed. The argument we are currently has been going on forever in different form. When people old offensive jokes, its just that you were not aware of the people who took offense. The internet made you aware they existed. Remember the 90s? We had internet back then...Remember a song called "Baby got back" which was also released in the 90s and nobody made a fuss out of it? (except people over 50 maybe) | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 30 2016 06:04 thePunGun wrote: Remember the 90s? We had internet back then...Remember a song called "Baby got back" which was also released in the 90s and nobody made a fuss out of it? (except people over 50 maybe) I was in high school in the 90s, the internet was very different back then. Anyone who claims otherwise wasn’t paying attention. And people had these discussion in the 90s. They made a whole movie about PC culture, mocking it, but also pointing out it was productive and helpful. It was called PCU. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
On March 30 2016 06:08 Plansix wrote: I was in high school in the 90s, the internet was very different back then. Anyone who claims otherwise wasn’t paying attention. And people had these discussion in the 90s. They made a whole movie about PC culture, mocking it, but also pointing out it was productive and helpful. It was called PCU. Social media did not exist back then, people were not sharing their opinions on anything and anyone...people love to put themselves above others. This whole "You're doing it wrong!" culture is cancer for any sane mind....and yes I said cancer...did I offend you? edit: Offening you is not the intention here..it's just an example how fast things get toxic these days for no reason really.. edit2: and look here we are..having this discussion.. about nothing.... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 30 2016 06:14 thePunGun wrote: Social media did not exist back then, people were not sharing their opinions on anything and anyone...people love to put themselves above others. This whole "You're doing it wrong!" culture is cancer for any sane mind....and yes I said cancer...did I offend you? No, I am not offended by the use of cancer. But it tells me a lot that you have degraded into the “you mad bro” section of this discussion. This is some high level shit here. The internet is different. It has become more accessible to more people. People are online all the time due to smart phones. There are different groups that have obtained internet access in the last 10 years that traditionally did not. And there are people on the interent not used to conflicting opinions that might issues like "women's bodies" or "sexualization" in their given hobby. And it was the fanboys of comics that perfected the “If you do not love the thing I love for the exact reasons I love it, you are doing it wrong” mode of gate keeping. That naturally has had cross over into games. The endless, whining objections of entrenched fans to have a product created only for them is nothing new. And of course, the main focus of this outrage normally centers of the depiction of women and if a developer decides to tone down the T&A. Then the angry threads and posts about Anime titties and booty arrive. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pCb12Ou.jpg) It's almost an outright lie to say that this is overly sexualized and thus unsuitable for a girl character because of that. It's not at all IMO. It's a female body - big deal. Go outside, look around and you will see dozens of them everywhere. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
My gf goes to the gym in yoga pants once a week. Does she show off her butt intentionally? Yes she does. Are people offended? Maybe. Does she care? No. edit: These are the answers I got when I showed her the picture fyi  | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
And once again, you can't compare real, live people with agency to a dress up doll that is a video game character. Women can wear whatever they want. Video game characters don't make choices, they are not real. They have no agency. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
The pose doesn't even show the butt in other skins. I think it's wrong to strip what little sexuality she has, there is an outside force here pressing all female characters into acting & dressing a certain way to the point of being inhuman. As a progressive (and a human) i find that quite offensive. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
YOU CANT DO THAT TO ME BLIZZ. I feel so goddamn blueballed right now. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 30 2016 06:34 Emnjay808 wrote: OMFG I was in a intense Torbjorn game then Overwatch DC'd me. FUADSFKASDFLASFD YOU CANT DO THAT TO ME BLIZZ. I feel so goddamn blueballed right now. You continue to bring the content in this thread that I am looking for. I need to be in this beta. Or the one in May, but really right now would be better. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
I think a critical element that plays into me having so much fun is how the games are extremely fast paced. And that I dont have to commit a serious amount of time to get a good game in. Also if Im in a bad game then I dont have to wait longer than 5 minutes for it to finish then I can move on to the next one. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On March 30 2016 06:42 Emnjay808 wrote: I feel for the bros who didnt get the beta. This is the most fun from a game that I've had in a while. And the past couple years I thought I was just too old and jaded to enjoy video games anymore. I think a critical element that plays into me having so much fun is how the games are extremely fast paced. And that I dont have to commit a serious amount of time to get a good game in. Also if Im in a bad game then I dont have to wait longer than 5 minutes for it to finish then I can move on to the next one. Bold part is why i like TF2 and cant wait for Overwatch, also why i dislike CS. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
But I really dislike that rage Winston pose out of TBs video. Oh on reddit someone is trying to change the Secret Keeper Pose by copying the Tracer thread ! | ||
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Heyjoray
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flipstar
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Duka08
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jxx
Brazil307 Posts
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
Then again I still don't even have an invite. | ||
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