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Hyrule19259 Posts
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hotbid couldn't find a friend for doubles?
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Nice thanks man.
Also KirbyKaze Duck team? thats gonna be some swag
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On June 22 2014 12:26 frogrubdown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 12:24 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:22 frogrubdown wrote:On June 22 2014 12:18 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:12 Elyvilon wrote:On June 22 2014 12:07 Thrillz wrote:
M2K percentage would be greater than leffens even he 3-0s colbol then? I think leffen can get ahead of PPMD if PPMD goes 0-3 though? No, because PPMD would be 17/8 and even if Leffen 3-0s Colbol than he's 18/9. I think PP still has the higher percentage. Plus in this case Axe would go through because he 3-0'd PP? 16/7. So I think only Axe/M2K/PP can go through. Game winning percentage is the third tie-breaker, not the first. Yeah I thought so. But whats then whats h2h match/game winning percentage? Take all the people that are tied and consider only their games against each other. If one has a better match percentage than all the others in only these games, they win. If none do, go to game percentage (but still only games with other tied players) and do the same thing. You only go to overall game percentage if neither of these work. As I pointed out above, you wouldn't make it that far in the Axe 3-0's PP scenario. edit: whoops, that probably didn't actually answer your question. My earlier post is better, but I didn't bother calculating since it seems so clear PP is in the lead by the second measure.
So isn't that head to head that is a catch all in the case of more than 2 tied players? Which means assuming both mango/hbox win vs PPU, Mango owns the tiebreaker? I mean in the limiting case of just 2 tied players, the first two tiebreakers pretty much just means h2h.
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On June 22 2014 12:30 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 12:26 frogrubdown wrote:On June 22 2014 12:24 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:22 frogrubdown wrote:On June 22 2014 12:18 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:12 Elyvilon wrote:On June 22 2014 12:07 Thrillz wrote:
M2K percentage would be greater than leffens even he 3-0s colbol then? I think leffen can get ahead of PPMD if PPMD goes 0-3 though? No, because PPMD would be 17/8 and even if Leffen 3-0s Colbol than he's 18/9. I think PP still has the higher percentage. Plus in this case Axe would go through because he 3-0'd PP? 16/7. So I think only Axe/M2K/PP can go through. Game winning percentage is the third tie-breaker, not the first. Yeah I thought so. But whats then whats h2h match/game winning percentage? Take all the people that are tied and consider only their games against each other. If one has a better match percentage than all the others in only these games, they win. If none do, go to game percentage (but still only games with other tied players) and do the same thing. You only go to overall game percentage if neither of these work. As I pointed out above, you wouldn't make it that far in the Axe 3-0's PP scenario. edit: whoops, that probably didn't actually answer your question. My earlier post is better, but I didn't bother calculating since it seems so clear PP is in the lead by the second measure. So isn't that head to head that is a catch all in the case of more than 2 tied players? Which means assuming both mango/hbox win vs PPU Mango owns the tiebreaker?
I don't know what the bolded part means, but yeah Mango should have the tie-breaker over hbox. I think liquipedia has the wrong tie-breakers since they're showing hbox in second right now.
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On June 22 2014 12:33 frogrubdown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 12:30 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:26 frogrubdown wrote:On June 22 2014 12:24 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:22 frogrubdown wrote:On June 22 2014 12:18 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:12 Elyvilon wrote:On June 22 2014 12:07 Thrillz wrote:
M2K percentage would be greater than leffens even he 3-0s colbol then? I think leffen can get ahead of PPMD if PPMD goes 0-3 though? No, because PPMD would be 17/8 and even if Leffen 3-0s Colbol than he's 18/9. I think PP still has the higher percentage. Plus in this case Axe would go through because he 3-0'd PP? 16/7. So I think only Axe/M2K/PP can go through. Game winning percentage is the third tie-breaker, not the first. Yeah I thought so. But whats then whats h2h match/game winning percentage? Take all the people that are tied and consider only their games against each other. If one has a better match percentage than all the others in only these games, they win. If none do, go to game percentage (but still only games with other tied players) and do the same thing. You only go to overall game percentage if neither of these work. As I pointed out above, you wouldn't make it that far in the Axe 3-0's PP scenario. edit: whoops, that probably didn't actually answer your question. My earlier post is better, but I didn't bother calculating since it seems so clear PP is in the lead by the second measure. So isn't that head to head that is a catch all in the case of more than 2 tied players? Which means assuming both mango/hbox win vs PPU Mango owns the tiebreaker? I don't know what the bolded part means, but yeah Mango should have the tie-breaker over hbox. I think liquipedia has the wrong tie-breakers since they're showing hbox in second right now.
Yeah what I mean is, it's just Head to Head if there is two players. That simplifies the predictions part so much LOL.
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On June 22 2014 12:35 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 12:33 frogrubdown wrote:On June 22 2014 12:30 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:26 frogrubdown wrote:On June 22 2014 12:24 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:22 frogrubdown wrote:On June 22 2014 12:18 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:12 Elyvilon wrote:On June 22 2014 12:07 Thrillz wrote:
M2K percentage would be greater than leffens even he 3-0s colbol then? I think leffen can get ahead of PPMD if PPMD goes 0-3 though? No, because PPMD would be 17/8 and even if Leffen 3-0s Colbol than he's 18/9. I think PP still has the higher percentage. Plus in this case Axe would go through because he 3-0'd PP? 16/7. So I think only Axe/M2K/PP can go through. Game winning percentage is the third tie-breaker, not the first. Yeah I thought so. But whats then whats h2h match/game winning percentage? Take all the people that are tied and consider only their games against each other. If one has a better match percentage than all the others in only these games, they win. If none do, go to game percentage (but still only games with other tied players) and do the same thing. You only go to overall game percentage if neither of these work. As I pointed out above, you wouldn't make it that far in the Axe 3-0's PP scenario. edit: whoops, that probably didn't actually answer your question. My earlier post is better, but I didn't bother calculating since it seems so clear PP is in the lead by the second measure. So isn't that head to head that is a catch all in the case of more than 2 tied players? Which means assuming both mango/hbox win vs PPU Mango owns the tiebreaker? I don't know what the bolded part means, but yeah Mango should have the tie-breaker over hbox. I think liquipedia has the wrong tie-breakers since they're showing hbox in second right now. Yeah what I mean is, it's just Head to Head if there is two players.
Yeah
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So liquidpedia is wrong, Hbox has not secured 2nd seed, and Leffen is not totally out??
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United States13143 Posts
On June 22 2014 12:33 frogrubdown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 12:30 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:26 frogrubdown wrote:On June 22 2014 12:24 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:22 frogrubdown wrote:On June 22 2014 12:18 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:12 Elyvilon wrote:On June 22 2014 12:07 Thrillz wrote:
M2K percentage would be greater than leffens even he 3-0s colbol then? I think leffen can get ahead of PPMD if PPMD goes 0-3 though? No, because PPMD would be 17/8 and even if Leffen 3-0s Colbol than he's 18/9. I think PP still has the higher percentage. Plus in this case Axe would go through because he 3-0'd PP? 16/7. So I think only Axe/M2K/PP can go through. Game winning percentage is the third tie-breaker, not the first. Yeah I thought so. But whats then whats h2h match/game winning percentage? Take all the people that are tied and consider only their games against each other. If one has a better match percentage than all the others in only these games, they win. If none do, go to game percentage (but still only games with other tied players) and do the same thing. You only go to overall game percentage if neither of these work. As I pointed out above, you wouldn't make it that far in the Axe 3-0's PP scenario. edit: whoops, that probably didn't actually answer your question. My earlier post is better, but I didn't bother calculating since it seems so clear PP is in the lead by the second measure. So isn't that head to head that is a catch all in the case of more than 2 tied players? Which means assuming both mango/hbox win vs PPU Mango owns the tiebreaker? I don't know what the bolded part means, but yeah Mango should have the tie-breaker over hbox. I think liquipedia has the wrong tie-breakers since they're showing hbox in second right now.
Feel free to update it to be correct
Edit: I've been trying to keep it up with just the matches and failing with that
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United States7481 Posts
head to head match is the first tiebreaker, and it'll always be the final breaker if the tie is only between two players. if it's between 3 players then head to head match score could be 1-1 for all of them, in which case they'd go on to the following tiebreakers, or 2-0 1-1 0-2, in which case they'd be ranked in that order.
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On June 22 2014 12:36 Thrillz wrote:
So liquidpedia is wrong, Hbox has not secured 2nd seed, and Leffen is not totally out??
Yes on the first, but I haven't calculated all Leffen scenarios.
edit: I can say that m2k wins a him/Leffen/Axe threeway. It'd go to head to head game, with them at 5-4/4-4/4-5 respectively.
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KDJ is eliminated from the tournament by Larry's Falco.
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United States7481 Posts
tiebreak scenarios for group A:
ppmd>axe, axe>remen:
ppmd 6-1, m2k leffen axe all 5-2. ppmd through, m2k 1-1 (5-4), leffen 1-1 (4-4), axe 1-1 (4-5), m2k 2nd
ppmd>axe, remen>axe:
ppmd 6-1, m2k leffen 5-2, m2k>leffen and m2k 2nd
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PP beat Axe? I think that means m2k is through.
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On June 22 2014 12:39 frogrubdown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 12:36 Thrillz wrote:
So liquidpedia is wrong, Hbox has not secured 2nd seed, and Leffen is not totally out?? Yes on the first, but I haven't calculated all Leffen scenarios. edit: I can say that m2k wins a him/Leffen/Axe threeway. It'd go to head to head game, with them at 5-4/4-4/4-5 respectively.
Yeah whoever wins between Axe vs PP is first. Then if do tiebreakers with the loser of that.
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On June 22 2014 12:44 frogrubdown wrote:
PP beat Axe? I think that means m2k is through.
Apparently Axe was up 2-1? Is it confirmed PP won?
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On June 22 2014 12:46 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 12:44 frogrubdown wrote:
PP beat Axe? I think that means m2k is through. Apparently Axe was up 2-1? Is it confirmed PP won?
I'm just going off of liquipedia. They claim 3-2.
edit: mlg bracket agrees.
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United States7481 Posts
yeah with that ppmd win over axe, that means m2k is through in 2nd
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On June 22 2014 12:46 frogrubdown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 12:46 Thrillz wrote:On June 22 2014 12:44 frogrubdown wrote:
PP beat Axe? I think that means m2k is through. Apparently Axe was up 2-1? Is it confirmed PP won? I'm just going off of liquipedia. They claim 3-2. edit: mlg bracket agrees.
So yeah M2K goes through via 2nd tiebreaker. Actually had Axe actually won,regardless the score, it'd be Axe 1st PP 2nd I think. I'm assuming Axe wins Remn of course.
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EPT
