When it really changes is when they waveshine my poor race car driver across the stage and finish it with a double shine so you can't DI to grab the ledge =[

Airking990

United States193 Posts

June 26 2014 20:18 GMT

#1462

I made this just for Armada
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He had RNG on his side, and he still couldn't win
Pulled a few Stitches, a Mr. Saturn, and even a beam sword.
But still, maybe Clash Tournaments is rethinking dropping M2K and Armada

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

June 26 2014 22:12 GMT

#1463

On June 27 2014 02:09 ShrieK wrote:

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When it really changes is when they waveshine my poor race car driver across the stage and finish it with a double shine so you can't DI to grab the ledge =[

I'm pretty sure the second shine won't hit if you DI the first shine away but yea it's pretty hard. Also you can smashDI to make them not shine you towards the edge.

Nickemwit

United States253 Posts

June 26 2014 23:55 GMT

#1464

On June 27 2014 07:12 Zoler wrote:

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I'm pretty sure the second shine won't hit if you DI the first shine away but yea it's pretty hard. Also you can smashDI to make them not shine you towards the edge.

I feel like SDI hardly ever gets me out of waveshines, but I'll keep trying! I'm not sure how feasible it is for me to (s)di the first shine away near the edge though. Generally I am going to be holding the direction to grab the ledge for a single shine or tech in case then dsmash me. Once waveshine --> double shine at the edge becomes standard, I'm sure it will be easier to anticipate to try to get (s)di correct though.

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

June 27 2014 02:32 GMT

#1465

On June 27 2014 08:55 ShrieK wrote:

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The thing is, to be able to cover SDI away on a shine you need to do a full wavedash as Fox, but if the opponent instead SDI's inwards you want to do a shorter wavedash. It's not really possible to react to it so most Fox players just go for the full wavedash and when you SDI it inwards most just fail the combo or go for something easy like an utilt or something.

SDI itself doesn't get you out of it, but by mixing up SDI you will usually get out.

tofucake

Hyrule19188 Posts

June 27 2014 14:39 GMT

#1466

You can do a short wavedash and walk forward and still hit all of the waveshines.

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

June 27 2014 14:57 GMT

#1467

On June 27 2014 23:39 tofucake wrote:
You can do a short wavedash and walk forward and still hit all of the waveshines.

Definitely not, unless I'm missing something.

tofucake

Hyrule19188 Posts

June 27 2014 15:07 GMT

#1468

It would seem you are.

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

June 27 2014 18:21 GMT

#1469

On June 28 2014 00:07 tofucake wrote:
It would seem you are.

I just tried it to make sure and I was right. You always need to do a full length wavedash to waveshine, there is no way you can do a short wavedash and catch a SDI away.

1godless

United States247 Posts

June 30 2014 05:30 GMT

#1470

Is there a collection of comprehensive vods out there? I've found some on youtube, but nothing MLG official. I'd really like to support this tournament by watching them on a site where MLG can benefit

Kyuukyuu

Canada6263 Posts

June 30 2014 06:45 GMT

#1471

On June 30 2014 14:30 1godless wrote:
Is there a collection of comprehensive vods out there? I've found some on youtube, but nothing MLG official. I'd really like to support this tournament by watching them on a site where MLG can benefit

MLG messed up and lost all the VODs. Luckily someone else had been recording so they'll be up tomorrow, hopefully.

Flameberger

United States226 Posts

June 30 2014 23:34 GMT

#1472

Here is their youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/MLGSmash/videos
As for the lost vods, I don't know what the story is but just a couple hours ago they uploaded some of the bracket play. Hopefully that's a sign that they will all be up soon.