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Nickemwit
Profile Joined December 2007
United States253 Posts
June 26 2014 17:09 GMT
#1461
On June 25 2014 06:02 BrTarolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 05:53 Thrillz wrote:
On June 25 2014 04:22 Elyvilon wrote:
I hated losing to Fox more than to Falco. I would just walk away feeling like, "man, there's nothing I can do, it feels like there's no openings and that he's everywhere at once."


Falco's is worst imo, and to most people I've encounter. Falco can control and take openings and combo you to oblivion much better than Fox. At least with Fox there are instances where you don't feel helpless and you don't get combo to hell.


That changes a lot once you play a really good fox like leffen

When it really changes is when they waveshine my poor race car driver across the stage and finish it with a double shine so you can't DI to grab the ledge =[
Fight Fire with ShrieK
Airking990
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States193 Posts
June 26 2014 20:18 GMT
#1462
I made this just for Armada
[image loading]

He had RNG on his side, and he still couldn't win
Pulled a few Stitches, a Mr. Saturn, and even a beam sword.
But still, maybe Clash Tournaments is rethinking dropping M2K and Armada
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-26 22:12:41
June 26 2014 22:12 GMT
#1463
On June 27 2014 02:09 ShrieK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 06:02 BrTarolg wrote:
On June 25 2014 05:53 Thrillz wrote:
On June 25 2014 04:22 Elyvilon wrote:
I hated losing to Fox more than to Falco. I would just walk away feeling like, "man, there's nothing I can do, it feels like there's no openings and that he's everywhere at once."


Falco's is worst imo, and to most people I've encounter. Falco can control and take openings and combo you to oblivion much better than Fox. At least with Fox there are instances where you don't feel helpless and you don't get combo to hell.


That changes a lot once you play a really good fox like leffen

When it really changes is when they waveshine my poor race car driver across the stage and finish it with a double shine so you can't DI to grab the ledge =[


I'm pretty sure the second shine won't hit if you DI the first shine away but yea it's pretty hard. Also you can smashDI to make them not shine you towards the edge.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Nickemwit
Profile Joined December 2007
United States253 Posts
June 26 2014 23:55 GMT
#1464
On June 27 2014 07:12 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 02:09 ShrieK wrote:
On June 25 2014 06:02 BrTarolg wrote:
On June 25 2014 05:53 Thrillz wrote:
On June 25 2014 04:22 Elyvilon wrote:
I hated losing to Fox more than to Falco. I would just walk away feeling like, "man, there's nothing I can do, it feels like there's no openings and that he's everywhere at once."


Falco's is worst imo, and to most people I've encounter. Falco can control and take openings and combo you to oblivion much better than Fox. At least with Fox there are instances where you don't feel helpless and you don't get combo to hell.


That changes a lot once you play a really good fox like leffen

When it really changes is when they waveshine my poor race car driver across the stage and finish it with a double shine so you can't DI to grab the ledge =[


I'm pretty sure the second shine won't hit if you DI the first shine away but yea it's pretty hard. Also you can smashDI to make them not shine you towards the edge.

I feel like SDI hardly ever gets me out of waveshines, but I'll keep trying! I'm not sure how feasible it is for me to (s)di the first shine away near the edge though. Generally I am going to be holding the direction to grab the ledge for a single shine or tech in case then dsmash me. Once waveshine --> double shine at the edge becomes standard, I'm sure it will be easier to anticipate to try to get (s)di correct though.
Fight Fire with ShrieK
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 02:33:19
June 27 2014 02:32 GMT
#1465
On June 27 2014 08:55 ShrieK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 07:12 Zoler wrote:
On June 27 2014 02:09 ShrieK wrote:
On June 25 2014 06:02 BrTarolg wrote:
On June 25 2014 05:53 Thrillz wrote:
On June 25 2014 04:22 Elyvilon wrote:
I hated losing to Fox more than to Falco. I would just walk away feeling like, "man, there's nothing I can do, it feels like there's no openings and that he's everywhere at once."


Falco's is worst imo, and to most people I've encounter. Falco can control and take openings and combo you to oblivion much better than Fox. At least with Fox there are instances where you don't feel helpless and you don't get combo to hell.


That changes a lot once you play a really good fox like leffen

When it really changes is when they waveshine my poor race car driver across the stage and finish it with a double shine so you can't DI to grab the ledge =[


I'm pretty sure the second shine won't hit if you DI the first shine away but yea it's pretty hard. Also you can smashDI to make them not shine you towards the edge.

I feel like SDI hardly ever gets me out of waveshines, but I'll keep trying! I'm not sure how feasible it is for me to (s)di the first shine away near the edge though. Generally I am going to be holding the direction to grab the ledge for a single shine or tech in case then dsmash me. Once waveshine --> double shine at the edge becomes standard, I'm sure it will be easier to anticipate to try to get (s)di correct though.


The thing is, to be able to cover SDI away on a shine you need to do a full wavedash as Fox, but if the opponent instead SDI's inwards you want to do a shorter wavedash. It's not really possible to react to it so most Fox players just go for the full wavedash and when you SDI it inwards most just fail the combo or go for something easy like an utilt or something.

SDI itself doesn't get you out of it, but by mixing up SDI you will usually get out.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19196 Posts
June 27 2014 14:39 GMT
#1466
You can do a short wavedash and walk forward and still hit all of the waveshines.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 27 2014 14:57 GMT
#1467
On June 27 2014 23:39 tofucake wrote:
You can do a short wavedash and walk forward and still hit all of the waveshines.


Definitely not, unless I'm missing something.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19196 Posts
June 27 2014 15:07 GMT
#1468
It would seem you are.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 27 2014 18:21 GMT
#1469
On June 28 2014 00:07 tofucake wrote:
It would seem you are.


I just tried it to make sure and I was right. You always need to do a full length wavedash to waveshine, there is no way you can do a short wavedash and catch a SDI away.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
1godless
Profile Joined August 2011
United States247 Posts
June 30 2014 05:30 GMT
#1470
Is there a collection of comprehensive vods out there? I've found some on youtube, but nothing MLG official. I'd really like to support this tournament by watching them on a site where MLG can benefit
The enemy's throne is down
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
June 30 2014 06:45 GMT
#1471
On June 30 2014 14:30 1godless wrote:
Is there a collection of comprehensive vods out there? I've found some on youtube, but nothing MLG official. I'd really like to support this tournament by watching them on a site where MLG can benefit


MLG messed up and lost all the VODs. Luckily someone else had been recording so they'll be up tomorrow, hopefully.
Flameberger
Profile Joined March 2010
United States227 Posts
June 30 2014 23:34 GMT
#1472
On June 30 2014 14:30 1godless wrote:
Is there a collection of comprehensive vods out there? I've found some on youtube, but nothing MLG official. I'd really like to support this tournament by watching them on a site where MLG can benefit


Here is their youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/MLGSmash/videos
As for the lost vods, I don't know what the story is but just a couple hours ago they uploaded some of the bracket play. Hopefully that's a sign that they will all be up soon.
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