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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
April 03 2014 15:30 GMT
#41
The triggers on the white one are a bit hard to press have to really make an effort or I miss a lot of L cancels cause it doesn't get pressed down enough.

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Ah who am I kidding I'd miss them anyways

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TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
April 03 2014 15:49 GMT
#42
i have a PC with the following specs: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1pPHv

is my dated videocard causing me to have some slight fps slowdowns at 1920x1080 resolution fullscreen? I've been toying around with speedhacks and various settings to try and maintain constant 60 fps but i do have some issues
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
April 03 2014 18:01 GMT
#43
On March 26 2014 10:50 Aylear wrote:
For those not (or at least those in Norway), the equipment linked were precisely the ones that could not be shipped to Norway. If I find a good alternative I'll post about it here.

I tried to order both from amazon.com (US) and amazon.jp.com (JP) because even with 20 bucks shipping it would have been cheaper than the german one. For some reason the exact same controller is a bunch more expensive on german amazon.
Anyways, ended up with the same issue. The controller (for me only the controller) wasn't shipable so I ended up ordering from amazon.de (GER) and that did work because duh, I'm from Germany.
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
April 03 2014 19:05 GMT
#44
Does anyone know if you use two of those mayflash 2-controller adapters whether or not you can play 4 player?
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
April 03 2014 20:11 GMT
#45
yup

https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-4-player-super-smash-bros-melee
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
April 04 2014 13:24 GMT
#46
THanks Xeo. I set it all up, and I had an absolute blast playing ridler from holland. Everyone get smash online right now!!!! Very easy to set up.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
April 05 2014 12:11 GMT
#47
Can someone tell me what the treshhold and Radius things do in the GC-pad settings? You linked this pic in the OP (http://i.imgur.com/4jxFev4.png) and it has everything on either 100% or 0% (noone cares about D-pad) and I got a link somewhere else where those radius' where on 70% and the treshhold for L and R as well I think. What's up with that?
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-05 19:52:31
April 05 2014 19:51 GMT
#48
Radius = range of input control. Should def be 100 unless your controller really sucks

Dead zone = basically looseness of your analog stick. worn controllers usually have some wiggle room in the neutral where you can move the stick but nothing happens. the looser it is the higher the dead zone (since you don't want to have it accidentally walk the other way due to being loose). Mine is at 8 or so

Threshold = I assume this is how hard you press on the shoulder buttons before they register an analog input. Mine is not at 0 for this

edit: also, anyone on the west coast want to play? i just bought an adapter for no real reason, would be fun
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
April 05 2014 21:24 GMT
#49
Threshold is how hard you press on the shoulder buttons before it registers a digital input. It simulates the button click when you fully depress a GC controller's trigger. It's useful for full analog triggers like the xbox controller, and is arguably useless for actual GC controllers.
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rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
April 06 2014 08:21 GMT
#50
Man i have to say, even playing with a friend on the West Coast (im on East), with 90ms, it was still SO MUCH FUNNN! It would lagg pretty bad sometimes, but for the most part was actually surprisingly smooth. Does anyone know what the buffer should be? Someone i played VS said to add +1 to the buffer for every 17ms, is this accurate? Also, if it was lagging really bad, would the buffer help that at all? I noticed it lagged i little less when raising the buffer for the 90ms we were getting, but it could have just been my friends PC being too slow or something. Anyways, so fucking good, thanks for bringing this to my attention! GG GL
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
April 06 2014 09:25 GMT
#51
Thanks, no idea if it was because of that weird radius setting but I have a lot less "wtf why didn't I dash instead of walking" moments.
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DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-06 15:14:49
April 06 2014 13:52 GMT
#52
Could I use an xbox controller instead of the gc + adapter?

Edit: Yes you can!!! Just did it and it works well.
Only problem I am having now is sensitivity issues, where I can barely do an up attack without jumping and pressing down B will sometimes do an over be attack. Not to mention the credit shooting was impossible.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 06 2014 16:14 GMT
#53
On March 24 2014 16:38 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 16:33 Firebolt145 wrote:
I hear a lot about how ping has a huge impact when playing online. From the UK, what countries can I play with to have any 'reasonable' ping? For example, is it possible to play a decent game with people from the US East Coast, or am I restricted to EU countries, or worse still just the UK? For what it's worth, in Dota I get ~120-150 ping to East Coast, and ~70 ping to EU.

You can get away with ping in rts/moba games because precision isn't super important past a certain point. It's so important in melee, that people won't use lcds because there will be a frames lag or so, which is equal to 16.66... ms. Realisticly, playing on a computer (lcd, so a frames lag at least), with a gamecube adapter (almost certainly input lag), over the internet is super limiting as to where you can play. Overseas is a no go, and I'd even argue that 40ms of lag is getting too high to make it worthwhile.

Imo you want to play as close to someone as possible.

lcds seriously aren't just a frame of lag. It's enormous amount of lag. It's completely unplayable with an lcd, and I have no problems playing street fighter or king of fighters online.


BTW I don't think other types of controllers would really work, GC's triggers and the control stick are somewhat special.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
April 06 2014 18:21 GMT
#54
Xbox controllers work fine. An analog stick is an analog stick, and threshold means the triggers are emulated just fine.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 06 2014 19:09 GMT
#55
Hm that so? When I tried my gamepad with SSB64 on emulator I couldn't walk or tilt at all, maybe it's different with xbox controller
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rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
April 06 2014 20:42 GMT
#56
I can also vouch for the 360 controller working, its very good IMO, although ive never played with a GC controller, so i have no reference point, but it seems to be fine. I also mapped the buttons differently, since ive been conditioned to use A on the 360 controller for jumping since every game in the passed 10 years has been A to jump, i couldn't get used to hitting Y for jumping, was really messing with my head. So i have A for jump, X for attack, and B for smashes? i think its called. Anyways, good times guys, good times!
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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
April 06 2014 22:06 GMT
#57
FYI there is a guy called ridler who only plays with the 360 controller and hes pretty good haha

Though seriously, if you wanna take up smash, play with a GC controller

I'd also lke to testify that whilst i've tested with several pros ranging from 20-50ms, and they all agree it's different and we can all feel the lag instantly, that by no means detracts from the fact you're still playing melee online and it's totally 100% playable and enjoyable and good for both practise and serious play. It's only not good enough for tournament setting pretty much
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 12:18:48
April 10 2014 10:56 GMT
#58
Hello ! I have a problem. I've got the mayflash controller adapter, but cant play with it. When I launch dolphin I cant use the controller to do anything. Did anyone had the same problem ?

EDIT : Got it to work ! Thanks to this video.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 17:29:10
April 11 2014 16:22 GMT
#59
So my controls are set up the right way, they work just fine for set up, no cross ups or anything, but when I get in game all the controls are borked. I'm permashielding, most of my keys are for grabs, except when I'm in the air where everything works correctly. I need a new ISO right?

And I fixed it. No idea how, but I fixed it.
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yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
April 18 2014 11:24 GMT
#60
Just ordered a mayflash adapter, I am excited for it to arrive. I hope I don't have too hard of a time playing all the way from Japan though. Does anyone know if I can use a Gamecube disc of Melee instead of having to download an ISO?
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