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On June 24 2015 18:00 FFW_Rude wrote: So is there someone that have the shipyard already ? Is it long/difficult ? Shipyard is easy, you just need a level 3 garrison.
It has to be easy because you need it to open up the new zone :p
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Downloaded 2gb, applied patch, logged in, did some garrison, log out. Try to log back in 1hr later. Unable to validate game version wut.
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try restarting pc, worked for some. deleting cache worked for some others.
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On June 24 2015 18:02 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2015 18:00 FFW_Rude wrote: So is there someone that have the shipyard already ? Is it long/difficult ? Shipyard is easy, you just need a level 3 garrison. It has to be easy because you need it to open up the new zone :p
So less than an hour ?
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On June 24 2015 19:50 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2015 18:02 Gorsameth wrote:On June 24 2015 18:00 FFW_Rude wrote: So is there someone that have the shipyard already ? Is it long/difficult ? Shipyard is easy, you just need a level 3 garrison. It has to be easy because you need it to open up the new zone :p So less than an hour ? Have just done it. Its like 10 minutes.
Pick up quest in your garrison. Few short quests at the Iron Docks in Gorgrond (may take longer if its crowded) Then you just need 150 resources (which you get from doing the quest aswell) and 150g. Boom you have your Shipyard.
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On June 24 2015 19:53 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2015 19:50 FFW_Rude wrote:On June 24 2015 18:02 Gorsameth wrote:On June 24 2015 18:00 FFW_Rude wrote: So is there someone that have the shipyard already ? Is it long/difficult ? Shipyard is easy, you just need a level 3 garrison. It has to be easy because you need it to open up the new zone :p So less than an hour ? Have just done it. Its like 10 minutes. Pick up quest in your garrison. Few short quests at the Iron Docks in Gorgrond (may take longer if its crowded) Then you just need 150 resources (which you get from doing the quest aswell) and 150g. Boom you have your Shipyard.
Oh cool. it was to know if it was doable tonight because i won't have a lot of playtime.
Thanks for the answer.
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So if anyone uses it, all rings in the raid are on cd, similar like bloodlust?
yup
That's why it heavily favors some classes/specs. It's a 2 min CD and it's very powerful - you need a damn good reason not to use it on CD, a reason good enough for the 2 min CD classes like MM hunters to hold their cooldowns anyway, so they'll still have synced cooldown to the ring activation
If there are 2 choices:
1; rapid fire at start of fight then twice more, all 3 synced with ring activation
2; rapid fire at start of fight with ring and then 3x more, but none of them at the same time as the ring activation in raid (using as soon as possible to get an extra usage out of it). 4x uses total
#1 would still probably win out - and people with >2min CD's have less power to sync to the ring, especially when it's being used on cooldown
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On June 24 2015 20:27 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +So if anyone uses it, all rings in the raid are on cd, similar like bloodlust? yup That's why it heavily favors some classes/specs. It's a 2 min CD and it's very powerful - you need a damn good reason not to use it on CD, a reason good enough for the 2 min CD classes like MM hunters to hold their cooldowns anyway, so they'll still have synced cooldown to the ring activation If there are 2 choices: 1; rapid fire at start of fight then twice more, all 3 synced with ring activation 2; rapid fire at start of fight with ring and then 3x more, but none of them at the same time as the ring activation in raid (using as soon as possible to get an extra usage out of it). 4x uses total #1 would still probably win out - and people with >2min CD's have less power to sync to the ring, especially when it's being used on cooldown And thats the problem with it. Not all classes are synced like that. I dont need it at the start of the fight. I need it like 30 seconds later when i have 5 shadow orbs. This is pure bullshit and i already hate it.
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On June 24 2015 20:40 Warri wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2015 20:27 Cyro wrote:So if anyone uses it, all rings in the raid are on cd, similar like bloodlust? yup That's why it heavily favors some classes/specs. It's a 2 min CD and it's very powerful - you need a damn good reason not to use it on CD, a reason good enough for the 2 min CD classes like MM hunters to hold their cooldowns anyway, so they'll still have synced cooldown to the ring activation If there are 2 choices: 1; rapid fire at start of fight then twice more, all 3 synced with ring activation 2; rapid fire at start of fight with ring and then 3x more, but none of them at the same time as the ring activation in raid (using as soon as possible to get an extra usage out of it). 4x uses total #1 would still probably win out - and people with >2min CD's have less power to sync to the ring, especially when it's being used on cooldown And thats the problem with it. Not all classes are synced like that. I dont need it at the start of the fight. I need it like 30 seconds later when i have 5 shadow orbs. This is pure bullshit and i already hate it.
we appreciate your feedback but we did it anyway 
I'm mildly happy and amused to be on the good side of tier sets and ring interaction that half of the classes are being fucked by. I couldn't have chosen a better spec in the game to reroll to, i think (for playstyle and my luck with this stuff)
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People complain about classes losing complexity (which i agree with) but whenever you go into LFG and invite only people within ~15 ilvls of you, this happens
![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/iB47U.png)
25 seconds into flamebender
whineghums is my guildie
i allocated an hour to do hans+flame+kromog wing on nerfed hc using the group finder, didn't even get flamebender and i went through about 50 players in group size from 12 to 30
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On June 25 2015 00:54 Cyro wrote:People complain about classes losing complexity (which i agree with) but whenever you go into LFR and invite only people within ~15 ilvls of you, this happens ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/iB47U.png) 25 seconds into flamebender whineghums is my guildie i allocated an hour to do hans+flame+kromog wing on nerfed hc using the group finder, didn't even get flamebender  and i went through about 50 players in group size from 12 to 30 And not a single shadow
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People that whine with a smiley face are pathetic. Just like people who throw out an insult and end it with "lol" or some shit, just say what you want to say.
And yeh, shadows pretty shit but it's still not the worst.
And complaining about a recount meter of lfr of all things is even funnier, like who gives a shit, if you can't do 25k dps on any class with gear then it's not the classes fault at all.
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Isn't Priest the worst class in the game under optimal circumstances?
Can't remember where I saw the 6.2 theorycrafting comparisons
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On June 25 2015 01:37 bo1b wrote: People that whine with a smiley face are pathetic. Just like people who throw out an insult and end it with "lol" or some shit, just say what you want to say.
And yeh, shadows pretty shit but it's still not the worst.
And complaining about a recount meter of lfr of all things is even funnier, like who gives a shit, if you can't do 25k dps on any class with gear then it's not the classes fault at all.
It's Heroic with an entire group of 670+, not LFR no need for you to get upset either!
I'm more amused - though i did typo that, i meant the cross-realm raid group finder thing
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More or less. There are specs that do less damage but those classes always have the option to play a different spec. There are some bosses, namely those with regular adds or dual bosses like twins/maidens whatever, where shadow isnt shit, but still not top. There is no niche that he has. But thats not the worst thing, im fine with not doing as much dps as other classes, who gives a shit really. The worst thing is that you literally arent invited to any group ever. Challenge mode? No room for shadow. Mythic 5man? No room for shadow. Heroic raid with minimal group size? No room for shadow. If youre lucky you get invited to a 30man raid. Absolutely no burst cds/spells means questing is annoying. Elites take forever, aoe dmg is ridiculous because its a channeling and barely does dmg anyway. There is just nothing at all that is good about shadow right now.
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On June 25 2015 01:44 Drazerk wrote: Isn't Priest the worst class in the game under optimal circumstances?
Can't remember where I saw the 6.2 theorycrafting comparisons I'd rather have a shadowpriest then enhance shaman, or windwalker by miles. Not only are those two classes mele but they also do less dps then spriests and have arguably less utility.
And optimal circumstances don't occur very often. Spriests weren't the greatest spec last patch but they were amazing on blackhand for obvious reasons.
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In fact people still undervalue just how strong twisted fate is as a talent, as well as how strong ranged are compared to melee.
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Have done 7/8 mythic dungeons, we got a few wf 705 with socket drops. I wouldn't want to do some of these in a pug for sure. Saved best for last, UBRS.
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On June 25 2015 04:42 daemir wrote: Have done 7/8 mythic dungeons, we got a few wf 705 with socket drops. I wouldn't want to do some of these in a pug for sure. Saved best for last, UBRS.
doing them at 660 is probably easier than timed CM's, at 690 it's not bad at all~ stuff just dies way faster. I cleared all of them earlier wiping only really on everbloom last boss
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