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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21947 Posts
June 24 2015 09:02 GMT
#10381
On June 24 2015 18:00 FFW_Rude wrote:
So is there someone that have the shipyard already ? Is it long/difficult ?

Shipyard is easy, you just need a level 3 garrison.

It has to be easy because you need it to open up the new zone :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-24 10:32:32
June 24 2015 10:00 GMT
#10382
http://dd.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/3awzpj/psa_expediting_the_upgrading_the_fleet_quest/


trying this out to see if it actually works

e: yeap this worked, had to relog for the quest to count all the missions, but lvl 2 shipyard in 15 minutes.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 24 2015 10:14 GMT
#10383
Downloaded 2gb, applied patch, logged in, did some garrison, log out. Try to log back in 1hr later. Unable to validate game version wut.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
June 24 2015 10:15 GMT
#10384
try restarting pc, worked for some. deleting cache worked for some others.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 24 2015 10:50 GMT
#10385
On June 24 2015 18:02 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 18:00 FFW_Rude wrote:
So is there someone that have the shipyard already ? Is it long/difficult ?

Shipyard is easy, you just need a level 3 garrison.

It has to be easy because you need it to open up the new zone :p


So less than an hour ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21947 Posts
June 24 2015 10:53 GMT
#10386
On June 24 2015 19:50 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 18:02 Gorsameth wrote:
On June 24 2015 18:00 FFW_Rude wrote:
So is there someone that have the shipyard already ? Is it long/difficult ?

Shipyard is easy, you just need a level 3 garrison.

It has to be easy because you need it to open up the new zone :p


So less than an hour ?

Have just done it. Its like 10 minutes.

Pick up quest in your garrison. Few short quests at the Iron Docks in Gorgrond (may take longer if its crowded)
Then you just need 150 resources (which you get from doing the quest aswell) and 150g.

Boom you have your Shipyard.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 24 2015 10:59 GMT
#10387
On June 24 2015 19:53 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 19:50 FFW_Rude wrote:
On June 24 2015 18:02 Gorsameth wrote:
On June 24 2015 18:00 FFW_Rude wrote:
So is there someone that have the shipyard already ? Is it long/difficult ?

Shipyard is easy, you just need a level 3 garrison.

It has to be easy because you need it to open up the new zone :p


So less than an hour ?

Have just done it. Its like 10 minutes.

Pick up quest in your garrison. Few short quests at the Iron Docks in Gorgrond (may take longer if its crowded)
Then you just need 150 resources (which you get from doing the quest aswell) and 150g.

Boom you have your Shipyard.


Oh cool. it was to know if it was doable tonight because i won't have a lot of playtime.

Thanks for the answer.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-24 11:31:21
June 24 2015 11:27 GMT
#10388
So if anyone uses it, all rings in the raid are on cd, similar like bloodlust?


yup

That's why it heavily favors some classes/specs. It's a 2 min CD and it's very powerful - you need a damn good reason not to use it on CD, a reason good enough for the 2 min CD classes like MM hunters to hold their cooldowns anyway, so they'll still have synced cooldown to the ring activation

If there are 2 choices:

1; rapid fire at start of fight then twice more, all 3 synced with ring activation

2; rapid fire at start of fight with ring and then 3x more, but none of them at the same time as the ring activation in raid (using as soon as possible to get an extra usage out of it). 4x uses total

#1 would still probably win out - and people with >2min CD's have less power to sync to the ring, especially when it's being used on cooldown
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 24 2015 11:40 GMT
#10389
On June 24 2015 20:27 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
So if anyone uses it, all rings in the raid are on cd, similar like bloodlust?


yup

That's why it heavily favors some classes/specs. It's a 2 min CD and it's very powerful - you need a damn good reason not to use it on CD, a reason good enough for the 2 min CD classes like MM hunters to hold their cooldowns anyway, so they'll still have synced cooldown to the ring activation

If there are 2 choices:

1; rapid fire at start of fight then twice more, all 3 synced with ring activation

2; rapid fire at start of fight with ring and then 3x more, but none of them at the same time as the ring activation in raid (using as soon as possible to get an extra usage out of it). 4x uses total

#1 would still probably win out - and people with >2min CD's have less power to sync to the ring, especially when it's being used on cooldown

And thats the problem with it. Not all classes are synced like that. I dont need it at the start of the fight. I need it like 30 seconds later when i have 5 shadow orbs. This is pure bullshit and i already hate it.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
June 24 2015 11:42 GMT
#10390
On June 24 2015 20:40 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2015 20:27 Cyro wrote:
So if anyone uses it, all rings in the raid are on cd, similar like bloodlust?


yup

That's why it heavily favors some classes/specs. It's a 2 min CD and it's very powerful - you need a damn good reason not to use it on CD, a reason good enough for the 2 min CD classes like MM hunters to hold their cooldowns anyway, so they'll still have synced cooldown to the ring activation

If there are 2 choices:

1; rapid fire at start of fight then twice more, all 3 synced with ring activation

2; rapid fire at start of fight with ring and then 3x more, but none of them at the same time as the ring activation in raid (using as soon as possible to get an extra usage out of it). 4x uses total

#1 would still probably win out - and people with >2min CD's have less power to sync to the ring, especially when it's being used on cooldown

And thats the problem with it. Not all classes are synced like that. I dont need it at the start of the fight. I need it like 30 seconds later when i have 5 shadow orbs. This is pure bullshit and i already hate it.


we appreciate your feedback but we did it anyway

I'm mildly happy and amused to be on the good side of tier sets and ring interaction that half of the classes are being fucked by. I couldn't have chosen a better spec in the game to reroll to, i think (for playstyle and my luck with this stuff)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-24 16:58:10
June 24 2015 15:54 GMT
#10391
People complain about classes losing complexity (which i agree with) but whenever you go into LFG and invite only people within ~15 ilvls of you, this happens

[image loading]

25 seconds into flamebender

whineghums is my guildie

i allocated an hour to do hans+flame+kromog wing on nerfed hc using the group finder, didn't even get flamebender and i went through about 50 players in group size from 12 to 30
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 24 2015 16:19 GMT
#10392
On June 25 2015 00:54 Cyro wrote:
People complain about classes losing complexity (which i agree with) but whenever you go into LFR and invite only people within ~15 ilvls of you, this happens

[image loading]

25 seconds into flamebender

whineghums is my guildie

i allocated an hour to do hans+flame+kromog wing on nerfed hc using the group finder, didn't even get flamebender and i went through about 50 players in group size from 12 to 30

And not a single shadow
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-24 16:40:12
June 24 2015 16:37 GMT
#10393
People that whine with a smiley face are pathetic. Just like people who throw out an insult and end it with "lol" or some shit, just say what you want to say.

And yeh, shadows pretty shit but it's still not the worst.

And complaining about a recount meter of lfr of all things is even funnier, like who gives a shit, if you can't do 25k dps on any class with gear then it's not the classes fault at all.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 24 2015 16:44 GMT
#10394
Isn't Priest the worst class in the game under optimal circumstances?

Can't remember where I saw the 6.2 theorycrafting comparisons
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-24 17:06:18
June 24 2015 16:57 GMT
#10395
On June 25 2015 01:37 bo1b wrote:
People that whine with a smiley face are pathetic. Just like people who throw out an insult and end it with "lol" or some shit, just say what you want to say.

And yeh, shadows pretty shit but it's still not the worst.

And complaining about a recount meter of lfr of all things is even funnier, like who gives a shit, if you can't do 25k dps on any class with gear then it's not the classes fault at all.


It's Heroic with an entire group of 670+, not LFR no need for you to get upset either!

I'm more amused - though i did typo that, i meant the cross-realm raid group finder thing
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 24 2015 17:03 GMT
#10396
More or less. There are specs that do less damage but those classes always have the option to play a different spec. There are some bosses, namely those with regular adds or dual bosses like twins/maidens whatever, where shadow isnt shit, but still not top. There is no niche that he has. But thats not the worst thing, im fine with not doing as much dps as other classes, who gives a shit really. The worst thing is that you literally arent invited to any group ever. Challenge mode? No room for shadow. Mythic 5man? No room for shadow. Heroic raid with minimal group size? No room for shadow. If youre lucky you get invited to a 30man raid. Absolutely no burst cds/spells means questing is annoying. Elites take forever, aoe dmg is ridiculous because its a channeling and barely does dmg anyway. There is just nothing at all that is good about shadow right now.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-24 17:09:52
June 24 2015 17:03 GMT
#10397
On June 25 2015 01:44 Drazerk wrote:
Isn't Priest the worst class in the game under optimal circumstances?

Can't remember where I saw the 6.2 theorycrafting comparisons

I'd rather have a shadowpriest then enhance shaman, or windwalker by miles. Not only are those two classes mele but they also do less dps then spriests and have arguably less utility.

And optimal circumstances don't occur very often. Spriests weren't the greatest spec last patch but they were amazing on blackhand for obvious reasons.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 24 2015 17:06 GMT
#10398
In fact people still undervalue just how strong twisted fate is as a talent, as well as how strong ranged are compared to melee.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
June 24 2015 19:42 GMT
#10399
Have done 7/8 mythic dungeons, we got a few wf 705 with socket drops. I wouldn't want to do some of these in a pug for sure. Saved best for last, UBRS.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-24 19:50:43
June 24 2015 19:49 GMT
#10400
On June 25 2015 04:42 daemir wrote:
Have done 7/8 mythic dungeons, we got a few wf 705 with socket drops. I wouldn't want to do some of these in a pug for sure. Saved best for last, UBRS.


doing them at 660 is probably easier than timed CM's, at 690 it's not bad at all~ stuff just dies way faster. I cleared all of them earlier wiping only really on everbloom last boss
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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