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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 06 2014 20:22 GMT
#6241
Why do people even care how fast the 0.01% clear it? Raids, even mythic arent balanced around 0.01% anyway.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24771 Posts
December 06 2014 20:45 GMT
#6242
Finally finished up some necessary tasks and now I feel ready to raid. I'll try pugging Highmaul today... wish me luck!

I'm now ilvl 633, have flasks, food, and two of the weaker enchants!
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 06 2014 21:18 GMT
#6243
I feel like Highmaul Pugs aren't what they're cracked up to be. I have yet to be in one where I wasn't top DPS on 90% of the pulls, and I KNOW I'm not being super optimal. That and people don't understand simple mechanics like moving in/out for cleave on Butcher and not running red shit through the raid on Tectus.

Still, I'll slam my face into them until my guild can actually get its shit together or I find a new one.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
December 06 2014 22:40 GMT
#6244
Yeah, I've been top DPS in all of the ones I've ran, even though I'm only 625 and most people are 640+ in my groups. Normal mode is definitely LFR 2.0 and pretty frustrating. Heroic would probably be ok but I've yet to see a pug Heroic group that wanted less than 660 ilvl.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 01:03:43
December 07 2014 00:39 GMT
#6245
On December 07 2014 01:40 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 01:23 Teoita wrote:
I think it's pretty well tuned overall except maybe Kargath which i find way too easy

Yeah. I feel like Kargath on heroic is about the difficulty of normal brackenspore or tectus haha


We wiped twice on Brackenspore and Tectus.. only once on Kargath HC.

And then ~40 or so times on Butcher HC. Finally got him down but our dps and healing was lower than i think the levels that the fight was intended to be played with (at least at first)


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was at ~18.85k when i died, a whole bunch of people died at ~5-6% (way less than are dead in that pic, but quite a lot) when healing failed and we hit the hard enrage shortly after that

Yes i'm missing a lot of hotkeys etc, can probably do 20k maaybe 21k with this gear and more with some boe's etc :D (especially if raid dps and healing is higher, so there is less of an awkward lull between ~80% and ~40% HP where it takes ages to die, and death strikes are not mandatory to use under threat of imminent death*)

*That feeling when you have 30k HP, there is an unavoidable swing for ~90-100k damage coming in 3-5 seconds, all of your health pots and defensives are on CD and healers may or may not be casting at you
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 07 2014 01:14 GMT
#6246
what rune/disease addon is that
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 01:46:29
December 07 2014 01:42 GMT
#6247
http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/threerunebars

Acherus runes unfortunately seemed to have died, that's what i was using some years ago:

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this one seems good though. Rune/power/disease management is pretty much death knight 101 and i'm surprised to see it still completely missing from blizzards UI unless you stare at the top left corner of your screen for 80% of the time while fighting raid bosses
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
December 07 2014 02:17 GMT
#6248
On December 07 2014 05:22 Kipsate wrote:
Why do people even care how fast the 0.01% clear it? Raids, even mythic arent balanced around 0.01% anyway.

Because many of us were/are in that 0.01%
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 07 2014 02:40 GMT
#6249
not even sure where to begin with that
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24771 Posts
December 07 2014 03:22 GMT
#6250
So after 4-5 hours filling in as a dps for some random guild run, we got to 2/7 normal. We downed Kargath on I think the first try. First attempt on Butcher we wiped when he was at 200k health lol, then won the next time. Tried Tectus a couple of times, did much better on attempts 3-4 but decided to skip it and went on to brackenspore. After a bunch of wipes we eventually stopped for the night. We got him down to like 10% one or two times. I was on flamethrower duty which was quite a pain until I understood exactly how to do it.

Only one item dropped that I could equip and a rogue rolled higher than me :/
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 07 2014 05:01 GMT
#6251
On December 07 2014 12:22 micronesia wrote:
So after 4-5 hours filling in as a dps for some random guild run, we got to 2/7 normal. We downed Kargath on I think the first try. First attempt on Butcher we wiped when he was at 200k health lol, then won the next time. Tried Tectus a couple of times, did much better on attempts 3-4 but decided to skip it and went on to brackenspore. After a bunch of wipes we eventually stopped for the night. We got him down to like 10% one or two times. I was on flamethrower duty which was quite a pain until I understood exactly how to do it.

Only one item dropped that I could equip and a rogue rolled higher than me :/


Lucky. I've spent about 8-9 hours over 3 different groups, most of it wiping on Butcher and Tectus. Finally downed Butcher in a group where I forgot to have a pet out for the first 10 seconds of the fight (and wasted a Soul Shard to get one) and still finished 1.5k above the nearest dps.

I can't wait for guild runs
magicmUnky
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia280 Posts
December 07 2014 05:45 GMT
#6252
My guild was top in wrath... got world 6th halion hardmode... the good old days, sorta ;o
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24771 Posts
December 07 2014 05:56 GMT
#6253
This is essentially my first time doing progression raiding. The raiding I've done in the past has always been months or more after release. Gotta say I don't enjoy repeatedly wiping and trying to figure out how to better conduct a battle against a raid boss... I thought I would enjoy it more. It might just be who you do it with that makes the biggest difference.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
December 07 2014 05:58 GMT
#6254
Gotta say I don't enjoy repeatedly wiping and trying to figure out how to better conduct a battle against a raid boss


I know just the place for you! Go grab a Wildstar key and do System Daemons

(well known for taking the world first guild ~800 wipes to take down, the fastest guild to kill it, ever, ~150 wipes)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
magicmUnky
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia280 Posts
December 07 2014 06:05 GMT
#6255
Who you raid with is very key... it is quite hard to find reliable, skilled players who don't inadvertently waste your time by dicking around
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 07 2014 06:50 GMT
#6256
On December 07 2014 14:56 micronesia wrote:
This is essentially my first time doing progression raiding. The raiding I've done in the past has always been months or more after release. Gotta say I don't enjoy repeatedly wiping and trying to figure out how to better conduct a battle against a raid boss... I thought I would enjoy it more. It might just be who you do it with that makes the biggest difference.


The problem is the turnover in pugs. You explain the fight, you wipe, 5 people leave and you have to replace them. Explain fight again, wipe because the 5 new people are new, 5 others leave, etc. Vicious cycle.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 07 2014 08:19 GMT
#6257
And also the fact that in pugs people on average are way way worse, and it's harder to coordinate because even if they use ts none every says anything. Honestly the only good "pugs" i have been in were guild runs missing a couple of people
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 08:39:34
December 07 2014 08:34 GMT
#6258
On December 07 2014 06:18 deth2munkies wrote:
I feel like Highmaul Pugs aren't what they're cracked up to be. I have yet to be in one where I wasn't top DPS on 90% of the pulls, and I KNOW I'm not being super optimal. That and people don't understand simple mechanics like moving in/out for cleave on Butcher and not running red shit through the raid on Tectus.

Still, I'll slam my face into them until my guild can actually get its shit together or I find a new one.

I feel ya about the guild thing. I've progressed more with pugs than with my actual guild and probably cleared more than other members too. I wouldn't say they're bad players either, just not very tryhard and don't put time into raiding.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 07 2014 11:22 GMT
#6259
I kind of wish that some of these people got to go back in time and experience the four horsemen in vanilla. Holy fucking shit, that was a boss. We must have run 400 wipes + on those guys.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 07 2014 11:36 GMT
#6260
Having wiped a few times on markog, I can say I feel a little foolish, that boss will be a nightmare on mythic
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